The style thread

[greenmachines]

Very good article and a very simple, classic, look to emulate...at a funeral That's what I love about his look! Death-is-a-coming

They even mention it is funeral attire and offer another walk through for funerals.....

What to Wear to a Funeral For Men

Men, don’t know what to wear to a funeral or what the etiquette is? We cover appropriate funeral attire for men and more in this guide.

blacklapel.com

 

[joberg]

They even mention it is funeral attire and offer another walk through for funerals.....

What to Wear to a Funeral For Men

Men, don’t know what to wear to a funeral or what the etiquette is? We cover appropriate funeral attire for men and more in this guide.

blacklapel.com

This is the classical way of doing things properly (as my Grand-Father, Father would say ) So many times I had to hold my tongue concerning the outfit (or lack thereof) of family, friends, acquaintances and likes at funerals

 

[masterjedi322]

Recently picked up this replica of Daniel Craig's shirt from the Madagascar chase sequence in Casino Royale, made by Royale Filmwear - Madagascar Shirt 2023 from ROYALE Filmwear

This is their 3rd iteration (I think?) of the shirt, and I think they nailed it. From what's been shared, the original shirt was made from a custom fabric, made just for the movie. A few folks were lucky enough to find some way back when, but it's pretty rare these days...

I think Royale Filmwear nailed the colors with this version, and the updated fabric perfectly mimics the drape you see in the movie.

All in all, a great replica! Personally, I took a lot of styling cues from Daniel's tenure as Bond, so I was really happy to add this to my collection.

Sean

 

[greenmachines]

Recently picked up this replica of Daniel Craig's shirt from the Madagascar chase sequence in Casino Royale, made by Royale Filmwear - Madagascar Shirt 2023 from ROYALE Filmwear

This is their 3rd iteration (I think?) of the shirt, and I think they nailed it. From what's been shared, the original shirt was made from a custom fabric, made just for the movie. A few folks were lucky enough to find some way back when, but it's pretty rare these days...

I think Royale Filmwear nailed the colors with this version, and the updated fabric perfectly mimics the drape you see in the movie.

All in all, a great replica! Personally, I took a lot of styling cues from Daniel's tenure as Bond, so I was really happy to add this to my collection.

Sean

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All Bonds were amazingly dressed and Craig is more my build than the others so I lean toward following what he wears. Here is the Bond link ref to that walk through from the same group that did John Wick's how to (above).

Why James Bond Looks So Good In Black Tie

Say “James Bond” and people start picturing a badass in a tux. How has one character become such an icon of black tie? We break down his black tie style.

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It is not as in depth as John's but offers a few side links too.

 

[greenmachines]

Question time again: Can we get some perspective on undershirts for white dress shirt assistance ( I fear Batman might show up with the false alert bat signal pattern my chest hair makes visible through my white dress shirts). I see some wear tanks and maybe t's but I don't really like the undershirt shape showing either. Tips on this and maybe purchasing guidelines on whites would be appreciated. I think my dislike of the undershirt harkens back to joberg's previous tips on v vs crew and the shape of the face/neck because I now see the shirt underneath. I guess what I am asking is a bit more than just undershirt vs no. Maybe advice on the build material of the dress shirt as well as pointers on hiding the hairy bat signal without making an obvious silhouette with the undershirt? Or maybe I am dancing around the real method and not asking the right question. Example: White dress shirt, bat signal in black backed by pinkish mother of pearl skin. Advice?

 

[joberg]

Question time again: Can we get some perspective on undershirts for white dress shirt assistance ( I fear Batman might show up with the false alert bat signal pattern my chest hair makes visible through my white dress shirts). I see some wear tanks and maybe t's but I don't really like the undershirt shape showing either. Tips on this and maybe purchasing guidelines on whites would be appreciated. I think my dislike of the undershirt harkens back to joberg's previous tips on v vs crew and the shape of the face/neck because I now see the shirt underneath. I guess what I am asking is a bit more than just undershirt vs no. Maybe advice on the build material of the dress shirt as well as pointers on hiding the hairy bat signal without making an obvious silhouette with the undershirt? Or maybe I am dancing around the real method and not asking the right question. Example: White dress shirt, bat signal in black backed by pinkish mother of pearl skin. Advice?

Depends on the shirt's fabric. 300 thread Egyptian cotton white dress shirt (between $250 - $350) will no show the monkey!! Therefore: no undershirt...not my favorite because of perspiration and other bodily odors...I'm thinking about dry-cleaning costs.
Saying that; a nylon or blend (cotton/poly) could show some of the jungle book...undershirt should be closer to your neck in style and cut:

The classic: cool in the summer (fairly straight line across the upper chest/neck area).

The spring/autumn/winter: crew neck and a little bit warmer.

Hope that helps

 

[pengbuzz]

Very good article and a very simple, classic, look to emulate...at a funeral That's what I love about his look! Death-is-a-coming

Well, if it's someone else's funeral, I would wear whatever dark clothes I have.

If it's my funeral, I could really care; it's not like I'm going to be listening to folks complain about my dead caboose being clothed in sweatpants and a t-shirt.

 

[greenmachines]

Depends on the shirt's fabric. 300 thread Egyptian cotton white dress shirt (between $250 - $350) will no show the monkey!! Therefore: no undershirt...not my favorite because of perspiration and other bodily odors...I'm thinking about dry-cleaning costs.
Saying that; a nylon or blend (cotton/poly) could show some of the jungle book...undershirt should be closer to your neck in style and cut:

The classic: cool in the summer (fairly straight line across the upper chest/neck area).
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The spring/autumn/winter: crew neck and a little bit warmer.
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Hope that helps

Perfect, thank you for sharing the info.

 

[joberg]

Well, if it's someone else's funeral, I would wear whatever dark clothes I have.

If it's my funeral, I could really care; it's not like I'm going to be listening to folks complain about my dead caboose being clothed in sweatpants and a t-shirt.

No, I will get out and slap anyone who's not properly attired Furthermore; I will curse them and their family FOREVER

 

[Ron]

I always wear undershirts and for that reason I try to avoid see-through dress shirts (it can be a problem with colored shirts too). I still wear see-through shirts but only under jackets. That hides the sleeves which only leaves the collar to deal with. I go with a crew neck if I'm wearing a tie and v-neck if no tie. Never wear a crew neck with an open collar. It's like your underwear is showing.

 

[joberg]

I always wear undershirts and for that reason I try to avoid see-through dress shirts (it can be a problem with colored shirts too). I still wear see-through shirts but only under jackets. That hides the sleeves which only leaves the collar to deal with. I go with a crew neck if I'm wearing a tie and v-neck if no tie. Never wear a crew neck with an open collar. It's like your underwear is showing.

To be sure not to have a white undershirt showing through your dress shirt, skin tone undershirts for men exist...as well as underwear.
Cannot stand to see underwear when wearing white summer pants/shorts. Skin tone is your way to go. You'll have to order on line; difficult to get in regular stores...at least here in Canada. Don't know if South of the border it's more common

 

[greenmachines]

To be sure not to have a white undershirt showing through your dress shirt, skin tone undershirts for men exist...as well as underwear.
Cannot stand to see underwear when wearing white summer pants/shorts. Skin tone is your way to go. You'll have to order on line; difficult to get in regular stores...at least here in Canada. Don't know if South of the border it's more common
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Before seeing this reply, my wife says "Why can't men have skin tone undershirts like women do?" So, to answer the border question: no it is not common and I have never seen them available in stores here, in my lifetime. This is a near pefect solution.

 

[greenmachines]

So for the rabbit hole we spoke of, or was it described as a scheduled break from sanity????, I would like to ask for the tour de force on tailor talk. To get this started, I offer my current suit of interest (the JOHN WICK I posted previously, admittedly one of several) and obviously totally self serving on the request. I start with some terms we already talked about single/double breasted, type of cuff and button, some pocket types, and general overall style (namely countries). In researching this, I find that I couldn't order it, myself, because the detail terms are so specific and foreign to me. I will post this pic and am hoping we can discuss fabrics, shapes, collars, buttoning (types and positioning, sleeve join type/style, fitted/pegged and others, tie style/coordinating colors/knot type/bars and pins, pocket types/angle names/positions, etc.. What I ran into is the general terms I was using are interprettable by the tailor (even those used in the video) and I wish to eliminate that variance. I would like the ordering or searching to be like picking my armor and outfit in a video game character set up mode. Is there an infallible way to order as such? Persay......this suit?? Possibly someone's favorite book title on this ordering process?

I see several things I fail to have words for: type of lapel (shape/outline), length/ratio of lapel, lapelled vest? There is no hole for a corsage/ornament so I would say no "insert cool word here" hole? Shape of overall jacket. Sleeve shoulder joint type. Pocket type (seems that even after slit vs flap, slit type has several variants?). Length and upper limits of the vest, shape of the vest (tips/notches/opening/distance from should to first button) I have only the words he uses when talking to his tailor in the video. I assume similar tailor language would be needed to communicate the purchase instructions of many iconic movie worn suits when sending a picture is not an option? And I am not asking for you to hand me a ready order for this suit as I really want to be able to see a suit and make this list of order specifics en mass for future projects....(as for the exact ordering specs for this suit, I'll just pm and offer to pay for your time). I totally get that it is a career's worth of info but let's assume we have enough air in the tanks for a deep dive. And are some of these terms still variables with tailors in general? Can they still have enough creative license to mess this up? Not on purpose or based on lack of skill but just in vagueness of my order terminology. As is usual for my internet searches, I get 50000 vids offering the same generic advice but no way to get the specifics. Maybe for sanity sake we take this apart and just do jacket first?

 

[joberg]

We'll start with John Wick style jacket:

The image shows a notch lapel, flap pockets and one button (the other is not buttoned of course). The back is showing an Italian style of jacket: no vents nor slit The John Wick's is with a double vent at the back (respecting the Side Back Seam). The double vent is great if your ass is not protruding too much...I would go for the Italian style if you can twerk with your butt.

So those are the big details you could ask for when ordering a suit...the flap pockets can be at an angle (pic) or straight. The description of the movie costume doesn't mention how many buttons does the sleeve vents have (I would assume at least 3 for that type of design) Sport jackets have a tendency to have 1 or 2 buttons (blazers also). If you have mucho $$$ you can ask your tailor to open the sleeves of your suit.
The center front seems to respect the pic: rounded corners.

Your tailor can also give you advice about your type of body and which type of jacket would suit you best. Alterations of certain details could result in that decision, especially for made-to-measure suits.

 

[joberg]

Before seeing this reply, my wife says "Why can't men have skin tone undershirts like women do?" So, to answer the border question: no it is not common and I have never seen them available in stores here, in my lifetime. This is a near pefect solution.

Indeed; your best bet is online order. Women have a lot of skin tone garments (bras, underwear, camisole, etc)...Not so much for the men

 

[dascoyne]

I don't mind that some people want to look classic and wearing hats like, fedoras, Havana hats etc. but IMO the whole look and vibe goes off the rails if they don't observe basic hat etiquette - e.g. taking off their cover when going into public buildings, movie theaters, someone else's home etc. Honestly, I didn't notice these things until a Romanian friend of mine in the 1990's asked me why someone was keeping their hat on in a church. Since then I can't help but notice. Conversely, when I see someone taking their hat off, say, to show respect or when entering a home they project class. IMO.

 

[PoopaPapaPalps]

I'd also like to add to hat etiquette is that if you can't hang your hat up on a hat rack or something, do not set it down laying on the brim. That can distort your brim shape over time. Flip it over and let it rest on the crown.

 

[greenmachines]

We'll start with John Wick style jacket:

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The image shows a notch lapel, flap pockets and one button (the other is not buttoned of course). The back is showing an Italian style of jacket: no vents nor slit The John Wick's is with a double vent at the back (respecting the Side Back Seam). The double vent is great if your ass is not protruding too much...I would go for the Italian style if you can twerk with your butt.

So those are the big details you could ask for when ordering a suit...the flap pockets can be at an angle (pic) or straight. The description of the movie costume doesn't mention how many buttons does the sleeve vents have (I would assume at least 3 for that type of design) Sport jackets have a tendency to have 1 or 2 buttons (blazers also). If you have mucho $$$ you can ask your tailor to open the sleeves of your suit.
The center front seems to respect the pic: rounded corners.

Your tailor can also give you advice about your type of body and which type of jacket would suit you best. Alterations of certain details could result in that decision, especially for made-to-measure suits.

Luckily, I cannot twerk. This is awesome, now I can put together a trial description and will post it when I am no longer just guessing...

 

[greenmachines]

I have a couple different local seamstresses that will do measurements but no suit tailors. Looking online I see way too many different lists of required measurements to be certain it isn't just for one piece of the suit. Can anyone list the standard names for the measurements I need for a full suit? I can then find the how to for them and provide to my local folks to get my spec sheet. Sorry if I missed this in earlier chat.

 

[joberg]

I have a couple different local seamstresses that will do measurements but no suit tailors. Looking online I see way too many different lists of required measurements to be certain it isn't just for one piece of the suit. Can anyone list the standard names for the measurements I need for a full suit? I can then find the how to for them and provide to my local folks to get my spec sheet. Sorry if I missed this in earlier chat.

If you bought an "Off-the-rack" jacket; they'll make the necessary adjustments on site (you wearing it). Shoulders will have to fit properly; don't buy a too big of a jacket (shoulder width). Difficult to tailor after the fact. Waist/back and sleeves length are the normal run-of-the-mill type of tweeks.