Wow that's horrible!
The OT stunt lightsaber blades research thread
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Here is a pic I found from the lightsaber on the Vader display promoting the opening of Planet Hollywood in Cologne, Germany in 1992. The Vader display was made by Don Bies & team.
Sansweet's saber is 100% Bies & Team as well then... whoa
This is a Glomex 5' antenna, compared to the Denmark AC Antennas CX-4 AIS. The REGULAR sized Glomex Halliwax has is the right size. My OBNOXIOUSLY LONG antenna is only just under 16 mm at base. The taper looks excellent though. Also, much more flexible fiberglass!
This is a Glomex 5' antenna, compared to the Denmark AC Antennas CX-4 AIS. The REGULAR sized Glomex Halliwax has is the right size. My OBNOXIOUSLY LONG antenna is only just under 16 mm at base. The taper looks excellent though. Also, much more flexible fiberglass!
I don't really have the software to adjust for camera lens angles and distortion, nor the measuring things you can do in photoshop? maybe I do, need a tutorial... anyway I did the casual blaster thing and made shapes and lines and compared things to real world parts. This isn't really exact and everything is blurry up close. I attached a photo or two of what photos I was drawing on
ANH - round blades
From Gino or BAlinger?
Vader - using piece of T track as comparison
17 mm (?)Base
10.2 mm Tip
Luke
Scottjua's photo
8.75 mm Tip
16 mm base
35" or more blade
Obi Wan/V2 - using Anakin Starkiller emitter as reference
18 ish mm Base
ESB
Vader
16-17 mm Base (I know, really)
10 mm Tip
47" Long
Luke - NO BUNNY EARS (bunny ears looks like 18)
19-20 mm Base (really, I know)
10 mm Tip
37" Long
ANH Stunt Bladed
19-20 mm base
same as above (?)
ROTJ picture Luke over Vader
Luke - 18 mm base
My conclusions: Vader and Luke's blades were different Antenna. Vader's is longer, but skinnier, and should be fatter if it's cut lower. They have the same 10mm tip.
Another nail in the coffin on the round ANH blades being skinnier
ANH Stunt during ESB and Luke's Graflex with foam grips and the split socket really have fatter blades than I thought. Have to be cut from long antenna radomes. My new ones get to be around 30mm at the base I've not seen a 4 footer get above 18.. though I've not held a Glomex RA300, I think that does
ANH - round blades
From Gino or BAlinger?
Vader - using piece of T track as comparison
17 mm (?)Base
10.2 mm Tip
Luke
Scottjua's photo
8.75 mm Tip
16 mm base
35" or more blade
Obi Wan/V2 - using Anakin Starkiller emitter as reference
18 ish mm Base
ESB
Vader
16-17 mm Base (I know, really)
10 mm Tip
47" Long
Luke - NO BUNNY EARS (bunny ears looks like 18)
19-20 mm Base (really, I know)
10 mm Tip
37" Long
ANH Stunt Bladed
19-20 mm base
same as above (?)
ROTJ picture Luke over Vader
Luke - 18 mm base
My conclusions: Vader and Luke's blades were different Antenna. Vader's is longer, but skinnier, and should be fatter if it's cut lower. They have the same 10mm tip.
Another nail in the coffin on the round ANH blades being skinnier
ANH Stunt during ESB and Luke's Graflex with foam grips and the split socket really have fatter blades than I thought. Have to be cut from long antenna radomes. My new ones get to be around 30mm at the base I've not seen a 4 footer get above 18.. though I've not held a Glomex RA300, I think that does
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Thank you sir!
I'm sitting here with a tape measure because the Valor ones are around 17 at the length of Luke's. I'm realizing since we don't have the exact ones used in the 70s, I'm going to have to settle on a close enough section because every manufacturer has a different radome it's nuts. We're getting as close as we can with modern stuff, I need to be more appreciative, I got the hunt for the vintage one mixed with a hunt for a modern close version and you have different accuracy levels for both. This is really cool.
Also I have trouble getting metal for the inside without larger machinery. I was able to buy a thick walled tube from China that's close enough I can sand it to shape. It's enough for a few blades I think
I also think Bob Anderson chose different lengths for different human body types. Mark was much shorter than David and I think their blades weren't an accident
Never really thought of that, maybe that’s exactly why Hamill’s blades are always shorter then vaders..
These are the same two sabers I think
They are blurry photos, but when you watch all this footage, you see it's an ANH Cast and the ANH Graflex Stunt together over and over and over.
These two might also be the same
Seemingly keeping the reflective tape on the blades for the warehouse rehearsals.
on the blades - these are probably from ANH or between ANH and ESB and they start out around 17mm but get skinny VERY early and stay very thin!!!
and Bob's blade has RED in the center of the blade. red-brown fiberglass?
They are blurry photos, but when you watch all this footage, you see it's an ANH Cast and the ANH Graflex Stunt together over and over and over.
These two might also be the same
Seemingly keeping the reflective tape on the blades for the warehouse rehearsals.
on the blades - these are probably from ANH or between ANH and ESB and they start out around 17mm but get skinny VERY early and stay very thin!!!
and Bob's blade has RED in the center of the blade. red-brown fiberglass?
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Propdude113
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I would agree that red blade Bob Anderson is practicing with is fiberglass as well as Mark Hamil's they were probably just another variation of antennas they had. Those were probably dedicated practicing sabers. So as to not damage the filming stunts
Mouse Vader
Sr Member
Certainly has red/brown hue but I'd want some cross referencing. This could just be a photo/film artifact: original colour balancing of film &/or colour balance deterioration of the film.
The Yuma stunt has a super short blade, and the long tang looks like it could go into a ROTJ skinny neck saber. IIRC the ESB stunt in the Wampa cave was a short blade as well.
I actually said that the Yuma had a short blade, and that the long tang looked like it could go into a ROTJ skinny neck saber. I didn't say I though that blade was used, or would fit, in the Yuma saber. I made 2 separate statements about the blade.
Gotcha. I assumed you were making an inference since the Yuma is an ROTJ skinny neck stunt with a short blade. Or rather, that’s how I read it. Sorry!
Don’t forget, the tangs aren’t 1 piece with red blades, there are so many attachments points with these damn things.
Some one could have inserted a tang into the wrong blade.
They are fooling around with stuff in the archives, that archivist even admits to attaching the blade to the pipe stunt
It may not be the yuma blade, and just a broke blade they have left over
All yuma blades I’ve seen were painted black. Even the video footage shows the blade black to help the rotoscopers
Idk.. too much time in between things and way to many hands involved in these projects
Sure would be nice to match them though..
Some one could have inserted a tang into the wrong blade.
They are fooling around with stuff in the archives, that archivist even admits to attaching the blade to the pipe stunt
It may not be the yuma blade, and just a broke blade they have left over
All yuma blades I’ve seen were painted black. Even the video footage shows the blade black to help the rotoscopers
Idk.. too much time in between things and way to many hands involved in these projects
Sure would be nice to match them though..
Im looking at that adaptor or collar, and why its so thick if its just a metal sleeve. Might be a bearing?
Propdude113
Active Member
Could it be to match the emitter hole in the V3? That would make it a smaller diameter blade
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