The One-Stop X-Wing Thread (1/24 original trilogy studio models only)

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  1. OylPslyk

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  2. jedimaster

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    Re: The One-Stop X-Wing Thread

    It's from the current Profiles in History Auction. It's claimed to be screen used but its not. It's the solid fuse casting. It has lineage to a real pyro but this is definately not what they claim in the auction.
     
  3. swgeek

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    I need help X wing experts. What kit is this part from?

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    Rodmart85 If you want this photo removed, just let me know.
     
  4. prop-fighter

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    Hi !

    I think it's the 1/35 revel phantom F-4J parts
     
  5. Junk Pilot

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    He's referring to the cone on the end of the engine itself that joins the back of the Saturn V part.
     
  6. swgeek

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    Exactly. I have pretty much every kit I need (except the brick pattern) and still can't figure out what the cone is from.
     
  7. -... . .- --..

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    I've spent a lot of time staring at that part in all the reference of the hero models I have and here's what I think about it:

    1. it's either metal or chrome-plated,
    2. if it's chrome-plated, then it's likely a wheel part from a car kit, which I've been unable to find, although some of the 1/20 Tamiya kit wheels come awfully close, and
    3. if it's metal, then it's likely to be some kind of small flashlight reflector or something similar.

    The reason number three is likely, IMO, is that this part is attached to the closed end of the aluminum tube armature inside of every rear engine on the hero models. If we assume that tube was used to reflect light and heat from the bulb inside out through the open end of the rear engine part, then it would make sense that they would use something like a flashlight reflector on the closed end of that metal tube.

    Again, all IMO.
     
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  8. Colin Droidmilk

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    Also, why does the canopy appear to be stuck on? All ILM canopies were built in, no?
     
  9. jedimaster

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    Yup. There is evidence of them being scored so as to break apart in a certain way but otherwise complete. This ain't the first time Profiles have taken someones word on something up for auction. Thing is the last one they sold along with the Y parts was legit. So why didn't alarm bells go off on this one?
     
  10. swgeek

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    Thanks Beaz, that's what I was afraid of. Was hoping it would be a simple part I overlooked though.
     
  11. HIGHWAYMAN9674

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    can someone here tell me what scale is my MPC/ERTL kit?? and what size brass tubes do you use for the guns???
     
  12. clobberator

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    Hi.. sorta new member on here.. looking at picking up an SS X-Wing.

    Is Rodmart's version the bestest (yes, bestest) one out?

    Thank you,
     
  13. Junk Pilot

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    The MPC kt is about 1/43 scale. As far as brass tubing goes I don't think anyone has check this yet but it shouldn't be hard to work out.

    I guess it's a personal preference but there is no denying the quality of this kit. I don't have a SS X-wing and I sooo wish I did though (long story but it involves a baby) but if I did it would definitely be this kit. And although the added detailing makes this non-film accurate it builds up into a beautiful bird.

    So...the question is, do you want film accuracy or not?

     
  14. jedimaster

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    Mike may be releasing his new improved v3.1.
     
  15. clobberator

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    Cool.. thanks. Yes, Junk Pilot - The Missus said I can get my toys before this "spawnling" thing happens.. so I'm looking to make sure the big purchases are taken care of before arrival of said spawn.

    I guess film accuracy is the big question now...
     
  16. Colin Droidmilk

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    I don't have the Rodmart but it looks like you can probably just sand off all the added stuff...
     
  17. kk1

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    SW Insider had one of the highest resolution pics yet of the shot of the X's and Y's on the table at ILM, finally get a clearer shot of the mystery X-wing with the red gun. What looked like an unpainted model in some of the pics now appears to only be missing the red stripe but is otherwise finished and matches the picture of it hanging by the wires.

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  18. wizardofthenorth

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    Nice...do you know what issue? The wings appear taped and ready for painting. And there does seem to be some yellow on the nose and fuselage as I had been thinking...possibly a blue canopy?

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  19. kk1

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    Issue 142 I think. Yeah the yellow appears to match up to the completed model.
    Good eye on the tape, didn't notice that and since they go to the edge I wonder if that confirms it being red 10?
     
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  20. jedimaster

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    Good eye..... It's definitely a Pyro Model. That's a nice clear pic of the Pyro Y-wing "Triangles" also.
     
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  21. Colin Droidmilk

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    Thanks for the post. Yes, this res now gives us a mighty fine look at those y-wings too. First time I've perceived the faint tan treatment on the Triangles' L'eggs.
     
  22. moffeaton

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    Great resolution! So the X in the back, with the red lasercannon body - thin blue strip along the top fuselage, no markings on the side?!

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    Or perhaps it's a shadow...
     
  23. wizardofthenorth

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    Here is the Red6/10 pic, with some saturation turned up to illustrate what I think may be some yellow painted sections and possibly a blue canopy. And they do kinda line up to the above photo.
    I saw the line on the nose, and was thinking it was maybe just a scoring line or something...blue would be interesting.

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  24. Colin Droidmilk

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    Also has an unpainted cockpit interior, or a light grey one!... And yeah, the side has no livery but is covered in painted panels/weathering ... a strange state indeed. Wings taped ready for stripes. So.. the livery went on last? The cockpit interior too, I guess. I see that in the famous pic of Grant McCune painting an X pyro, the cockpit interior is reddish at that point...presumably it was left unmasked when he did the canopy.
     
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  25. Colin Droidmilk

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    They do for sure... Check that huge yellow panel on the nose...
     
  26. jedimaster

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    Definitely a strip Jase. A shadow would also cast up the nose and canopy would it not? Interesting green strip on the lower port wing. Red 3 hero has the same.
     
  27. wizardofthenorth

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    In the profile shot...is this craft pilotless?
    Re: the stripe...possibly black primer still there from masking/painting and just not covered yet?
    Re:cockpit...i was interpreting the photo as having the cockpit maybe.just taped over

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  28. jedimaster

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    Could be Brian. Maybe when they glued the two halves of the fuse together they taped the nose section to hold it together. Another theory I guess. Unfortunately I don't think we will ever know. Unless some clearer color pix turn up.
     
  29. Colin Droidmilk

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    Before we got this high res pic, I always thought they hadn't bothered to cut the windows out or something. But you can clearly see the dashboard and that.
     
  30. kk1

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    Looks the same color as the stripe on the side of the Y-wing cockpit behind the Tie Fighter.
     
  31. moffeaton

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    Third one in is Red 5!!

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  32. kk1

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    Excuse my ignorance but wasn't that known already ?

    (ignoring the misidentification of the other X-wings)
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  33. Junk Pilot

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    Why does it look like the one marked as Red 2 is another Red 1? Looking at the top left wing of the 4th bird it appears as those there is only 1 stripe. And when you look at the image in Jason's post the weathering half way down the fuselage looks similar.
     
  34. kk1

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    Because it is, I think I got this pic off another forum where the person was under the delusion that was Red 2 instead of the Red 1 (pyro?) thus my " (ignoring the misidentification of the other X-wings)" comment. I was just using the picture because it shows Red 5's stripes.
     
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  35. TheRealMcFly

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    kk1, I think I remember who you mean. I had to make the same claim. Two red leaders.

    Red Leader has always been my favorite X. These table photos are the only time we see a Hero and a Pyro representing the same ship together. Red Leader Pyro looks weathered to match. More evidence that there was great care taken with the paint and detailing on the early Pyros.

    Blue Leader would have still been overseas and not yet converted to Red 2? The first X Wing ever built certainly deserves to be in the group shot. That's what you get when you spend the holidays traveling.
     
  36. kk1

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    And the Insider pic I posted gives you a great shot of the differences between the two, looks like the burn marks are slightly extended on the one.
     
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  38. TheRealMcFly

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    Definitely a great view there. Big thanks. I see what you mean, the general weathering matches the Hero maybe they even scorched it up a little extra. Here's one of the bottom from the Sculpting A Galaxy DVD.
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    Jase are you using the early generation Eaves copied Pyro of DaveG for the map? Probably the sharpest look at these parts in the cockpit. Beaz had two great giant shots also but just adding the Tamiya Lancaster to the list solves a lot of puzzles for me.

    The still mystery bits like 17 would have been a control joystick? There's the part in the Airfix 1/24 Bf109 that reminds me of it. A huge maybe but these guys might have been reaching for just that on the sprue.

    Here's barely a look at 17 from Genes set of that primered auctioned Pyro.
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    The part not highlighted just next to 17 and between 14 seems to me like a separate part from 17 itself. Already mentioned but maybe 17 is actually two parts. With these tiny details it is really hard to tell. Part #6 is quite the generic detail. It looks sharp on top like a mold line? I was going to use an antenna from one of the AMT trucks because the mold seam is more obvious on their kits. Parts like these drive me nuts. There's just not much to go on.
     
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  40. jedimaster

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    Re: The One-Stop X-Wing Thread

    Would like a higher Rez of this one.

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    Or this one.
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  41. PHArchivist

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    Re: The One-Stop X-Wing Thread

    OK guys, here's an updated shot of most of the available kits:

    View attachment 256128

    From the left:
    --Revell "Pocket"
    --FM 1:72
    --ERTL smallest
    --Revell mid
    --ERTL "standard" or "classic"
    --ERTL Pro-Shop
    --Revell new 1:30
    --Hasbro toy
    --Captain Cardboard
    --Salzo
    --Maxi-Brute

    Missing:
    --FM 1:48
    --Rodmart
    --Kotobukia or whatever
     
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  42. moffeaton

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    And the two Japanese ones from the 1970s! I can take pics with the Rodmart and Salzo if you want to photoshop them into a mega pic?
     
  43. PHArchivist

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    Totally - would love to add the Rodmart in...!
     
  44. PHArchivist

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    This adds in the Icons fuselage...

    I had to comp it in, but again I think the sizing is at least 99% accurate.

    There was an old pic Beaz posted of this Icons fuse along side a pyro casting that made its rounds, and a copy of the Maxi-Brute. It was the Maxi-Brute in Beaz's image that allowed me to size the Icons hull within my image.

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    From the left:
    --Revell "Pocket"
    --FM 1:72
    --ERTL smallest
    --Revell mid
    --ERTL "standard" or "classic"
    --ERTL Pro-Shop
    --Revell new 1:30
    --Hasbro toy
    --Captain Cardboard
    --Icons
    --Salzo
    --Maxi-Brute

    Of note, the Revell new 1:30 scale fuse does not overhang the steel ruler since it is a one-dimension paper image, where as the others are actual fuselages with some height which - based on the camera angle - allows the butt plates to overhang the ruler in the image.
     
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  45. prop-fighter

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    I would like to finish my salzo hero x wing but I'm missing a piece!
    anyone can help me ?

    thanks!

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  47. taggray

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    I am a longtime stalker of these forum..heh! I have bought a SS resin X-wing for reference of a scratch build. Does anyone have a complete list of all the donor kits to scratch build the SS X-wing?
    Thank you so much!
     
  48. Junk Pilot

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    Welcome taggray.

    You won't find one complete list in any one place. Without being rude many of the long time modellers here will have such a list but won't give new members here what they have worked hard to compile or accumulate. The best thing to do would be to search through the links on the first page as you'll find many of the different kits and parts mentioned within.

    Happy hunting.
     
  49. kk1

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    So I was watching a documetary (I believe it was after Empire but pre-Jedi) and they were showing the filming of some SW effects and during the part about the Matte painting for when Obi-wan shuts down the tractor beam an X-wing model was sitting next to the camera, but I don't recognize it. Solid red stripe with black scorching behind the nose cone...any ideas?
     

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    I would say ANH Red 3
     

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