The Official Boycott Star Wars Bluray thread

NAZGÛL said:
I know you didnt. I took some of the opinions in the thread and took them to the extreme. I see big problems with artists being responsible against the public, but Ive adressed them in earlier posts. If Lucas releases a new version doesnt really change the old ones. The previous versions still exists.

Noone had done anything like SW before Lucas made it. If he would have listened to everyone he wouldnt have done it. So we should be glad he works the way he does.
Click to expand...

I'm glad he worked the way he worked. I'm less glad that the way he currently works he seems to be trying to erase the past. And while the other versions "exist", they exist in lower-res transfers like VHS and LD (or LD rips). That's nice and all, and yeah, they do still technically exist, but for how long? VHS copies will wear out over time and the technology to play them will as well. DVDs will start to look like crap, the higher resolutions we get with display technology. It seems that, eventually, the theatrical versions (or as close to them as we can get) will disappear from consumer libraries...
 
NAZGÛL said:
If Lucas releases a new version doesnt really change the old ones. The previous versions still exists.
.
Click to expand...

But there's a strong fear that Lucas will ensure that they enter oblivion as we move up onto new formats. He chooses not to allay this fear. Hence all the pain and nervousness among the fans of '77.
 
Solo, there's a more immediate problem with DVDs - they scratch easily and become unplayable! If Lucas pulls the DVD release then my ability to watch the OT rests entirely on my 3 discs and old VHS which could also get chewed up any instant. This is unacceptable!
 
Mic, is it this: you're confident there'll be a '77 Bluray release eventually, that probably L is just holding back so as to rake in a second wave of cash, and we're all panicking for nothing? If so maybe you're right... because... yes, why would he have bothered to put out the originals at all in the DVD release? He could've buried them at that point if he really wanted them dead...
 
Me too. To cleanse myself of this thread I watched my LD rips yesterday.

The whole time I was all "these are fine."

I don't see that much difference in BR to DVD.

Live sports shows, I see a big difference. But not in movies. And I have a 65" Mits Diamond Vision.
 
Colin Droidmilk said:
...why would he have bothered to put out the originals at all in the DVD release? He could've buried them at that point if he really wanted them dead...
Click to expand...

No he couldn't, because people were ripping LDs and using those and selling them on ebay. There was a demonstrated pirate market for them, so he probably figured "Hell, I can do THAT," and put out a licensed version of EXACTLY what was on ebay already. It took next to no effort, and it probably let him capture at least some revenue from fans who didn't want to pirate, but would've settled for the LD-rips anyway. Thing is, the LD source material was basically the highest resolution "original" OT version out there for consumers. There was no DVD-resolution equivalent, (or at least not one being widely distributed, if one exists).

In essence, if you bough those LD-rip DVDs, you were only one technological generation behind the then-current version, and many people at the time still had low-def CRT TVs. So, the actual difference was there, yeah, but it was tolerable and anyway, it was better than VHS which was your only other option.

Now we're two technological generations behind, and the difference is magnified by people having higher-end entertainment systems. The net effect is twofold: (1) people are probably less inclined to keep ripping the LDs (or already have the official version thereof) so there's less of a market for further LD rips, and (2) he's managed to skip a generation of technology for the "OOT" films. There is, in essence, no DVD-resolution version of them. Meaning if you want a clear, HD picture, or even a DVD-resolution picture, it's George's way or the highway. You can't even opt for a previous-generation version because there isn't one. Your closest bet is two generations behind (I guess, unless there are fan edits out there that somehow manage to restore the original material without further mucking about with it...IE: Not Adywan-type stuff).

Anything further at this point probably involves SOME kind of effort on his part, and he's pretty clearly shown he has no interest in expending such effort on that project.
 
So mic, I'd love to hear your comeback to my Star Trek question. Is it any different, you protesting to keep ST TOS on the air? After all your snips at us "crybabies" and "whiners" I'm just curious is all. You know, how it's different.
 
I know how I'd answer, if you were asking me this question. 1., when you're a kid, passions run stronger. You see the world in a less nuanced way than you do as an adult.

and

2. Fifty years ago, "one man with a vision" could have a greater impact on society than you can now. I'm not 100% up on Bjo Trimble's campaign, but I seem to remember only 50,000 letters swung NBC, who then buried it at ten o'clock on Friday night, giving the kids the ol' "You can get what you want and still not like it" thing that George is doing now.

I don't see how holding someone to actions they took as a kid forty years ago is evidence of adult hypocrisy, I just don't.
 
What we did was in support of the creator and he supported us back.

You're attempting to hold back the ocean with a broom. Impossible.

I'd love to see YOU prove me wrong but I KNOW you'll just sit on your ass and do nothing. Like 99.999999% of the people that "cry" and "whine"

That's the difference. I actually did something. You won't. No one, that actually could, would. Because it's not as important as the fanboys make it out to be. AND ITS DONE.

What they're going to do recall a million BR due to fanboy whining. Yeah...right.

National treasure, pish posh, it's just a movie, that was as much luck as skill.

Maybe that's why it doesn't bother me.
 
Larry Young said:
I don't see how holding someone to actions they took as a kid forty years ago is evidence of adult hypocrisy, I just don't.
Click to expand...

Actually :)wink), I can't stand the "I was 19 and stupid." defense.

I was 19 once and stupid, but I never used that dumb ass excuse.

I've always fessed up to my screw-ups.
 
I don't think, at this point that there's any true "boycott," anyway. It's just individuals making individual purchasing decisions and otherwise just griping round the bar, really. We might as well complain about them durn politicians in D.C. or argue about boxing matches of yesteryear at the babershop.

I'd like to have a high-res copy of the older versions. I find most of Lucas' changes to be pretty stupid, but, whatever. As I've said, they're curios for me at this point. What I do find stunning is the technical problems I've heard have remained in this version, which, again, speaks of slipshod work at LFL or whatever place did the transfers.

All that said, and this being teh intarwebz0rz, I don't really see much of a problem with people just grousing about it. I do find the wailing and gnashing of teeth to be a bit hyperbolic, but otherwise...whatever. It's annoying that I can't get my preferred version of the films in a hi-def format, and that's about the end of it. I encourage folks to vote with their wallets, since that is pretty much the only vote you get.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Too Much Garlic
Value of the 2006 Star Wars Trilogy DVD
Replies
2
Views
1,146
Too Much Garlic
Too Much Garlic
13doctorwho
Skywalker Lightsaber (Scratch Build)
Replies
13
Views
2,119
mhope43
mhope43
Mr Mold Maker
The Stranger - The Acolyte
2
Replies
20
Views
3,647
ZeroSum
ZeroSum
AxeKando
The Bad Batch animation props
Replies
16
Views
2,918
Boredlois
Boredlois
BB43MAN
The Millennium Kestrel: older Wonderfest build
2
Replies
24
Views
3,441
monsterpartyhat
monsterpartyhat
Back
Top