The Official Avatar Colonel Miles Quaritch "Wasp" Pistol Research Thread

[Grey]

Sure, but now you're getting into the 'Brown Bess and Olive Drab' debacle of the pulse rifle. Sure it was technically painted brown, but anytime it's on screen it's green, and when I get a replica it's because I want what I saw on screen.

They may have used a regular revolver for ease of adapting it for screen use, but it was clearly intented that the fictional gun was a break two design. It's not all that hard to do for a replica gun, if you're talking about a firing version then thats a whole nother story but for a static piece it's just a pivot.

IMO it's only a standard revolver because it would have been harder and costlier to have a custom made break-two design, therefore if I was going to replicate it I wouldn't replicate thier 'cop-out', i'd make it the way it's supposed to work.

 

[p51]

Re: The Official Avatar Colonel Miles Quaritch Pistol Research Thread

** James Cameron is a wizard at muzzle flash. Watch ALIENS. When they decked out those MG-43s for Vasquez , he had the gunsmith make a suppressor that vented blank gas like crazy!!!

See...

That was an MG-42, and with live ammunition, they create one mother of a muzzle flash. I’ve shot a real one several times. Granted, they were using pretty hot blanks on that movie as normal .45ACP ball ammo in a Thompson does not normal create that much of a flash like you saw coming out of the pulse rifles.
If you watch the movie closely, you never see them firing long bursts out of those 42s. They notoriously jam with blanks (and often with live ammunition) due to their ridiculously high cyclic rate, which varies between 900-1200 rounds a minute depending to how it’s set up.

 

[Grey]

Re: The Official Avatar Colonel Miles Quaritch Pistol Research Thread

If you watch the movie closely, you never see them firing long bursts out of those 42s. They notoriously jam with blanks (and often with live ammunition) due to their ridiculously high cyclic rate, which varies between 900-1200 rounds a minute depending to how it’s set up.

Atleast they covered themselves by having Hicks tell everyone to use only "short controlled bursts".

 

[TheMechanic]

Just thought I'd share some gun porn. The Smith & Wesson Performance Center 8 shot .357 tactical revolver with Aimpoint Comp ML2 & Surefire X-200 Weapon Light.

Surely this was some kind of inspiration for Quaritch's pistol.

 

[TheMechanic]

Any movement on this project or has it died? I hope not.

 

[Thrawn]

I think the thread became tainted or something:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=1139258#post1139258

 

[Raider65]

Yeah I hope it's not getting closed. I keep looking for more info but there just isn't alot out there. Hopefully, maybe JC can release more of the concept weapons art/designs in the near future. Alot of the info is on the world/planet and not on the tech of Avatar.

 

[switchblade_slinger]

Re: The Official Avatar Colonel Miles Quaritch Pistol Research Thread

That was an MG-42, and with live ammunition, they create one mother of a muzzle flash. I’ve shot a real one several times. Granted, they were using pretty hot blanks on that movie as normal .45ACP ball ammo in a Thompson does not normal create that much of a flash like you saw coming out of the pulse rifles.
If you watch the movie closely, you never see them firing long bursts out of those 42s. They notoriously jam with blanks (and often with live ammunition) due to their ridiculously high cyclic rate, which varies between 900-1200 rounds a minute depending to how it’s set up.

I may be remembering this wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Cinefex magazine on this film said they used wooden bullets to give off such a huge muzzle flash on this weapon. I don't have the issue anymore... It was like special effects porn to me when I was fifteen. I read it till it disintegrated.

 

[TheMechanic]

The Sentry Guns used wooden blanks. IIRC they talk about it on the special features.

 

[b26354]

Avatar gun p0rn:

http://www.wetanz.com/avatar-2

 

[Rook 3]

Seriously drool-tastic. Thanks for sharing the pic and link!

 

[Raider65]

Any1 else notice that the pic on the left, of the Wasp is accidently the mirrored image of the left side shown as being the right? If you look at the holstered Wasp you can see the Wasp logo on the scope for the right side and the right side is supposed to not have knobs on that side of the scope.

Awesome link. Thanks for posting.

I hope they release more on the weapon concepts.

 

[C0mmand3rC0dy]

Me want! :thumbsup

 

[scoobasteve]

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[Scapey]

Hey man, thanks!
And welcome to the RPF

 

[SouthPoll]

Hi all. 1st post

....may I interject? 1st prize goes to the man who guessed Dan Wesson! It was not however a PPC (though it was remodelled to look more like one!), it was in fact built around a stainless steel Model 15-2 .357mag.

....this pic is of a .22 version, but most closely resembles the base model used (though I think it only had the 4" barrel to start with).

How do I know?.....I was tasked with making the original prop at Weta (among others) :cool

More details when I have some spare time. Prop on.

 

[CTF]

Glad you could make it, D!

 

[franz bolo]

Cool! Thanks for the info.

FB

 

[Mike J.]

Sweet!

Welcome! :lol


-Mike J.

 

[Raider65]

Thanks for the info.

Do you have any design details that you can share without getting into any trouble? Or pics/drawings of how it was suppose to function with the selector in the different firing modes?

Anyways thanks for posting what you did and putting a name/model to the prop Wasp.