wayouteast
Sr Member
That's great news!
And good call on Laura Karpman's score. I should have mentioned that, too. It was terrific!
The Marvels (2023)
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And good call on Laura Karpman's score. I should have mentioned that, too. It was terrific!
I read the article. That's just Brie Larson trying to whip up interest by talking wishfully. There's nothing in there at all that says Marvel is even remotely considering a sequel to their biggest bomb of all time. Brie Larson doesn't know at this stage.
screenrant.com
The Marvels Collapses At Box Office With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend Drop That's Worse Than Morbius
The Marvels previously had the MCU's worst opening
screenrant.com
cboath
Master Member
Returning doesnt mean a third film, it means returning, leriod. Two avegers flicks in the works, other characters flicks, tv shows, etc. Could be any or multiples of those she will appear in.I read the article. That's just Brie Larson trying to whip up interest by talking wishfully. There's nothing in there at all that says Marvel is even remotely considering a sequel to their biggest bomb of all time. Brie Larson doesn't know at this stage.
The Marvels Collapses At Box Office With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend Drop That's Worse Than Morbius
The Marvels previously had the MCU's worst opening
VanPersie
Well-Known Member
You’ve watched it then, to see how it measures up to your objective criteria and critique it’s merits, flaws and other such things?….
“ I have zero interest in anything that Marvel does these days.”
CB2001
Master Member
This is oppose to the last time, back when she was asked if she was going to come back, and she said, "I don't know. Does anyone want me to do it again?" And, this video has that clip, along with the response that everyone had then, and that they have now:I read the article. That's just Brie Larson trying to whip up interest by talking wishfully. There's nothing in there at all that says Marvel is even remotely considering a sequel to their biggest bomb of all time. Brie Larson doesn't know at this stage.
The Marvels Collapses At Box Office With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend Drop That's Worse Than Morbius
The Marvels previously had the MCU's worst opening
Bloop
Sr Member
Umm, I clicked on the link and got this...
Not sure that says a lot about this being "proof" of more Captain Marvel movie appearances...
Anyway, I can't see the article, so I don't know what it said. Suffice it to say, even if it were an announcement of another Captain Marvel led movie, it still wouldn't be definitive proof that such a movie would be produced. Movies plans get cancelled all the time, especially big budget genre pics.
And as was already pointed out, if it were simply annnouncing the character of Captain Marvel would return, that doesn't necessarily mean it would be in a solo movie. She could just return for a cameo in another project. We also saw at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 that "Starlord will return," but in what capacity, we don't know (or at least I haven't heard any news).
The movie opened like 10 days ago. Do you guys expect them NOT to claim that the movie/characters will be continued in some way?
They are still in the heat of battle trying to promote the existing movie. Any talk about the future right now is a marketing effort.
Remember when the 2016 Ghostbusters was getting a sequel?
Remember when Rian Johnson was getting a whole SW trilogy after 'The Last Jedi' opened?
They are still in the heat of battle trying to promote the existing movie. Any talk about the future right now is a marketing effort.
Remember when the 2016 Ghostbusters was getting a sequel?
Remember when Rian Johnson was getting a whole SW trilogy after 'The Last Jedi' opened?
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What makes you think the character won't return?
Given every other main Marvel hero has appeared in some other MCU project outside their solo film?
Or is this purely because apparently "nobody likes Captain Marvel" so that somehow means she won't be back because a vocal section of fandom doesn't want her back? I think we know Marvel has their plans laid out well in advance and virtually all the main players have involvement with the MCU provided their character hasn't been killed off... even then it isn't a guarantee.
Bloop
Sr Member
Let's look at this from a business standpoint. Ranking all 33 of the MCU movies by worlwide box office success, 2019's Captain Marvel solo movie is actually the 10th most successful (source): All 33 Marvel Cinematic Universe movies, ranked by how much money they made at the global box office
It earned $1.13 billion worldwide, which is better than the 2 of the Captain America films, all of the Thor movies, Iron Man 1 & 2, the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, both Doctor Strange movies, Spider-Man: Homecoming, the Ant-Man movies, Shang-Chi, Black Widow, The Eternals, and The Incredible Hulk. The Marvels is currently in last on the list, though the movie is still only in its second week, so the numbers are not final.
It's certainly strange that the first Captain Marvel film did so well yet the new one is not. But some (possibly a lot) of the success of Captain Marvel was due to the end credits teaser in Avengers: Infinity War, and the release date of the movie, directly ahead of the highly anticipated Avengers: End Game. There were likley a lot of people who thought the movie would have more to do with the conclusion of the Avengers story.
It earned $1.13 billion worldwide, which is better than the 2 of the Captain America films, all of the Thor movies, Iron Man 1 & 2, the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, both Doctor Strange movies, Spider-Man: Homecoming, the Ant-Man movies, Shang-Chi, Black Widow, The Eternals, and The Incredible Hulk. The Marvels is currently in last on the list, though the movie is still only in its second week, so the numbers are not final.
It's certainly strange that the first Captain Marvel film did so well yet the new one is not. But some (possibly a lot) of the success of Captain Marvel was due to the end credits teaser in Avengers: Infinity War, and the release date of the movie, directly ahead of the highly anticipated Avengers: End Game. There were likley a lot of people who thought the movie would have more to do with the conclusion of the Avengers story.
Bloop
Sr Member
I think most of us here are not doubting the character may come back in some capacity. We just don't think it's a lock that Marvel will produce another solo movie based on the character.
Don't forget Disney+ didn't exist back when a lot of those films were released.
The short window between cinema release before being added to Disney+ has an impact on box office and not just for Disney properties. Netflix, Apple, HBO etc release films in the cinema and then add them to their streaming library very shortly thereafter. It's a factor.
And Star Trek IV was announced while Star Trek Beyond was in its theatrical run..
I don't have any theories about what they will do with the character.
I haven't seen the movie, or the earlier one, or half a dozen other MCU movies. This is not my scene. I've bashed Nicolas Cage on this thread more than I've bashed Brie Larson or this movie.
All I'm saying is that the timing cannot be trusted. The studios are in the habit of claiming they have future plans for movies/characters at times like this. It's a show of support for the product in an episodic series like the MCU or Star Wars.
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Curious as to what brought you here if "this is not my scene". Don't take that as an attack, I am genuinely curious as to why you would come to join in on something you don't care about?
Cephus
Master Member
"Film" is not every film that comes out. I don't watch romcoms. I don't talk about the specifics of any individual romcom movie but I can still speak intelligently about the genre and evaluate the box office performance.
cboath
Master Member
Pre-covid and pre-streaming, the theater to home time had gotten down to maybe 6 months for some, but not all. Going back to 2008 it was nearly a year. It's not around 3 months. 4 is considered long.
Studio's may be arrogant jack-@$%es, but they aren't dumb enough to think they can shrink the window down that much and it won't affect box office. They sacrificed that window during the pandemic to keep things going because people wouldn't/couldn't go to theaters and now they're using it to prop up streaming services which are apparently not the cash cows they assumed they'd be.
It's kinda like a second mortgage....getting that money helps at that singular point in time, but it's a royal PITA after the fact until you pay one of them off. Studio's are in too deep with streaming services to pay off the second mortgage.
I'm interested enough to read some of the threads about MCU stuff even if I haven't seen all the shows lately. (I saw a lot of the earlier-phase MCU movies in the 2000s/2010s.)
And lately the most interesting thing about the big tentpole shows in Hollywood (Marvel and otherwise) is the fact that the studios keep screwing up and losing money on them. When the topic is something like marketing or budgeting then I might have an opinion.
But if people are squabbling about whether Brie Larson's character is a Mary Sue or something . . . Okay, whatever. I haven't seen it.
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