The Mandalorian (TV series)

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

I maintain that there is a brilliant trilogy of films buried somewhere in the PT that would have come out if GL had let someone else do the actual telling. A Bill Belichick to someone else’s Tom Brady, or a Sean Payton to someone else’s Drew Brees.

I think the main thing that hopefully would have happened would have been someone telling George there's too much to cover in the runtime of a mere three films, that even his originally-planned six was cramped, and covered the beats the audience needs to see to evolve the setting and characters over the generations the saga is meant to cover. The worst thing, above all, that's happened to the Star Wars Saga is the accidental and forced "trilogy model" that's resulted in so much of the necessary worldbuilding happening in animated series, standalone films, books, comics, and, now, live-action TV series. Specific to the "PT", in my rewrites (that Psab Keel knows a bit about), Obi-Wan's arc goes from newly-minted Jedi Knight to Old Ben sacrificing himself for Luke nine episodes and thirty-odd years later.

 

[Jamesfett]

The darkside is full of abilities some may see as unnatural....

I was actually happy Maul was brought back, enjoyed him in Clone Wars and Rebels.

I would have been happy if Palpatine NEVER returned however.

Although I am not a prequel fan I was mad they offed him so quickly and in a way he could not possible be brought back. At least that is what I thought at the time.

Who knew.

 

[Potroclo]

So here's my view on things: First off, Boba is full of crap. He's a BAD GUY, and we will see it soon.
- He's worked for the Empire before.
- He probably STILL hates the Jedi. Why would he possibly help Grogu?
- Jango's line about being a "simple man making his way in the universe" was a lie to Obi-Wan. It's repeated here.
- They took out the Razor Crest from orbit, but they didn't blow up Slave I.
- He had little compunction about burgling the Razor Crest. Admittedly he was getting his own stuff, but still.
- Boba made it sound like Jango was his real father, and didn't bring up that he's a clone. (That's a stretch, but it goes to Boba's dishonesty.)
- Either he could follow the Imperial tracking signal, or he was tipped off to where they were going.
- Jango wasn't a Mandalorian, according to the PM of Mandalore. Okay, maybe he was a foundling who took the Oath like Din did. But it's likely he's just a bounty hunter.
- Boba's new chompers were like the guy from There's Something About Mary, and those were done to be dishonest. ( I kid, I kid.)

Finally! I though I was the only one even considering Boba could be double-playing, been thinking that since friday, after all Boba worked with the empire right? At first I though he and Fennec were there to get Grogu, deliver it to Gideon and get back in what's left of the empire's favor, but it didn't make sense that they stick with Mando after the darktroopers kidnap the child... I don't know, I guess all of the above, while true, is circumstantial but not entirely conclusive, and that it's just Filoni reinstating the Fetts as mandalorians (he didn't seem all too happy when Lucas said there were not), and the fact he had like, what, 3 years? to get back his armor from Vanth, and didn't, was just a plothole... but to me it would be far more interesting that Boba has some secret agenda, instead of this "dreamteam assemble!" vibe we're getting... I guess we'll see friday...

Oh btw, no more rifle, and no more Zero either, after they blew up the Razor Crest... too bad, Ayoade was great as a droid!

 

[JBLAKE]

Agreed and must say again, that when I saw Fennec Throw that quick look to Boba I felt something is awry. Directors show those things for a reason. The more I think about it and the more people point out these things I just really feel I am being led to believe Boba's got a double cross coming up. Maybe someone else wants Grogu too. Really rather Boba have become a changed Man. Would fit in though with Din's friends dying helping him to end a season.

If that does happen and either way Boba is killed that does not put light back into a dark area that Disney created in killing our OT Legends.

Although on a side weird theory I did see someone speculate it may be Din that dies and other assorted mandalorians carry on the show.
I personally would not like that at all. Even with a whole Gladiator style sacrifice.

Speculation, speculation haha

Again just glad to have genuine fun style interest.

 

[squirk]

Whenever I watch a show where there might be a double-cross in the works, I note which characters have scenes or shots where they are all by themselves, and pay close attention to what they do and how they act when no one is looking. I also note which characters never have scenes or shots all by themselves, meaning they are always around others and possibly always putting on an act.

Boba was in berserker mode using his gaffi stick on those STs, and again, nobody was watching him so it's not like he had to put on a show of "acting" enraged. For him to go balls-crazy like that on soldiers he was secretly in cahoots with would start taking him into "sociopath" territory. I don't think that's where this series is going with him.

And Fennec seemed genuinely shocked and dismayed when that second transport showed up. Not "proof-positive" of her ultimate intentions, but you'd think she wouldn't have an "oh, ****" look on her face if this was all part of a plan.

 

[Psab keel]

The question is what would be in it for Fett to side with the Empire? He wanted his armor back and still had his ship. Sure there may be a bounty for Grogu but Fett had been wandering the desert for presumably a few years so it's possible money isn't exactly a priority. Plus will be ever get to see a character enjoying the fruits of their labor? It's all work and no play in a galaxy far, far away. Always fighting. No peace ever.

 

[squirk]

The question is what would be in it for Fett to side with the Empire? He wanted his armor back and still had his ship. Sure there may be a bounty for Grogu but Fett had been wandering the desert for presumably a few years so it's possible money isn't exactly a priority. Plus will be ever get to see a character enjoying the fruits of their labor? It's all work and no play in a galaxy far, far away. Always fighting. No peace ever.

Right. He stayed on Tat all those years for a reason, when he could have flown off and resumed his BH career.

Presumably, he stayed for the armor and/or my aforementioned catharsis. With that in mind, I find it odd that someone with his tracking skills couldn’t locate the armor for five years. It doesn’t seem like Cobb Vanth was keeping it a secret.

But maybe he was laid up for a long time after the Sarlaac, and has only been back in action for a short while.

 

[Cappy]

Presumably, he stayed for the armor and/or my aforementioned catharsis. With that in mind, I find it odd that someone with his tracking skills couldn’t locate the armor for five years. It doesn’t seem like Cobb Vanth was keeping it a secret.

Its possible because his armour was used to pay a life debt, he couldn't reclaim it until that debt was paid. Since it now was
he was free to go after it.

This is the way.

 

[Jamesfett]

Since he obviously still had Slave I no one said he was on Tatooine the whole time.

 

[Jamesfett]

EDIT: Accidentally quoted myself instead of editing. Ignore this post.

I quote myself sometimes. It is weird.

 

[Jamesfett]

I quote myself sometimes. It is weird.

See what I mean.

 

[Jamesfett]

So here's my view on things: First off, Boba is full of crap. He's a BAD GUY, and we will see it soon.
- He's worked for the Empire before.
- He probably STILL hates the Jedi. Why would he possibly help Grogu?
- Jango's line about being a "simple man making his way in the universe" was a lie to Obi-Wan. It's repeated here.
- They took out the Razor Crest from orbit, but they didn't blow up Slave I.
- He had little compunction about burgling the Razor Crest. Admittedly he was getting his own stuff, but still.
- Boba made it sound like Jango was his real father, and didn't bring up that he's a clone. (That's a stretch, but it goes to Boba's dishonesty.)
- Either he could follow the Imperial tracking signal, or he was tipped off to where they were going.
- Jango wasn't a Mandalorian, according to the PM of Mandalore. Okay, maybe he was a foundling who took the Oath like Din did. But it's likely he's just a bounty hunter.
- Boba's new chompers were like the guy from There's Something About Mary, and those were done to be dishonest. ( I kid, I kid.)

I hope you are right. There is no bigger Boba Freak than me but he is a bad guy and needs to stay that way!

 

[Metaluna mutant]

I hope you are right. There is no bigger Boba Freak than me but he is a bad guy and needs to stay that way!

This is correct. Fett (both father and son) had no problem working with the separatists, coordinating the assassination of Padme, working with Vader and the Empire repeatedly (both in canon comics and ESB), and doing freelance work for Jabba. He's literally a hired assassin and a deadly killer -- slapstick "death" in the Sail Barge not withstanding. He follows his own code obviously, but has no qualms about which side his code takes him to - Empire, Hutts or New Republic. After all, he's shocked when he sees the Imperial Cruiser over Tython and holds up his end of the deal to deliver the child, while viciously and brutally running stormtroopers through the heart.

Fett is basically a non-magical Vader/Jedi/Sith, just skill, weapons and attitude. The fact that Lucas never really understood his appeal is what is what baffles me. I dont think Lucas ever understood how cool a villain he could be - and yet he created Darth Vader, literally a cross-cultural world wide icon of evil. Filoni et al have a better grasp of the character and his appeal than Lucas ever did.

 

[Sixxgunn13]

I'm late.. and I'm not going to go back and read if this was discussed.. BUT Because the Razorcrest of gone.. Do you see them killing off Boba and handing off the Slave 1 to Din?

 

[squirk]

Since he obviously still had Slave I no one said he was on Tatooine the whole time.

Possible, but I feel like the clear implication is that he’s been out in the wilderness on Tatooine, with the desert wanderer robes, the gaffi stick, the didgeridoo music, etc.

 

[Jamesfett]

Possible, but I feel like the clear implication is that he’s been out in the wilderness on Tatooine, with the desert wanderer robes, the gaffi stick, the didgeridoo music, etc.

You may be right but I just hope they explain and show what happened. How he got out of the Sarlacc pit and what happened since. I don't like returns with no explanation. Even non returning from the dead returns. I want to know what my beloved characters have been doing.

 

[Jamesfett]

This is correct. Fett (both father and son) had no problem working with the separatists, coordinating the assassination of Padme, working with Vader and the Empire repeatedly (both in canon comics and ESB), and doing freelance work for Jabba. He's literally a hired assassin and a deadly killer -- slapstick "death" in the Sail Barge not withstanding. He follows his own code obviously, but has no qualms about which side his code takes him to - Empire, Hutts or New Republic. After all, he's shocked when he sees the Imperial Cruiser over Tython and holds up his end of the deal to deliver the child, while viciously and brutally running stormtroopers through the heart.

Fett is basically a non-magical Vader/Jedi/Sith, just skill, weapons and attitude. The fact that Lucas never really understood his appeal is what is what baffles me. I dont think Lucas ever understood how cool a villain he could be - and yet he created Darth Vader, literally a cross-cultural world wide icon of evil. Filoni et al have a better grasp of the character and his appeal than Lucas ever did.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucas admitted he had no idea how popular he was and would have handled it differently. As big as a fett freak as I am I acknowledge this was gonna be done, at least for a long time in 1983. Lucas never planned a sequel with our beloved trio young and was always going to have them be older passing the torch, sadly. Boba was a minor character which is why I loved, about the only thing I loved, was the Jango/Boba story in the prequels.

I can never forgive Lucas for many things but Boba I can forgive. I didn't even mind him going into the pit. Stuff happens, but in 1983 during the first showing I knew he was not dead.

He is Fett

 

[Jamesfett]

I'm late.. and I'm not going to go back and read if this was discussed.. BUT Because the Razorcrest of gone.. Do you see them killing off Boba and handing off the Slave 1 to Din?

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boba lives and he would never give up Slave I.

Have Mando get a new ship, another Razor Crest, whatever, but not Slave I

Kill off Boba and I will,.........................I will,...............I will,......,........................stop buying merchandise.

 

[kickman88]

9 years after ANH. 5 years after RotJ.

• Star Wars: The Phantom Menace – 32 BBY
• Star Wars: Attack of the Clones – 22 BBY
• The Clone Wars – 22 BBY-19 BBY
• Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith – 19 BBY
• Solo: A Star Wars Story – 13 BBY – 10 BBY
• Star Wars Rebels – 5 BBY – 1 BBY
• A New Hope – 0 BBY
• The Empire Strikes Back – 3 ABY
• Return of the Jedi – 4 ABY
• The Mandalorian – 9 ABY
• Star Wars: The Force Awakens – 34 ABY
• Star Wars: The Last Jedi – 34 ABY
• Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker – 35 ABY

Poor Rogue One got left out...and it's WAY better than a lot of the other things on this list!

 

[kickman88]

In order of plausibility, I'd rank survival:

Boba Fett (because jetpack)
Mace Windu

(bit of a gap)

The Emperor
Darth Maul (because they CUT HIM IN HALF I can't stress this enough)

If they hadn't resurrected any other characters, I'd say bring back Windu, but it's just getting absurd at this point.

"CUT HIM IN HALF"

Have you not seen bilateral above the knee amputees walking around on two mechanical legs(prostheses)? This is really not that big a deal medically.