The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)

R1V3R5 said:
And although I did enjoy the films, I'm happy the movies have concluded and hoping the next film actually follows the comic.
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These films do follow the comics and past movies. Even the TV show a bit going by Catwoman's costume. Of course, certain things are changed a bit. There is a site called Batman Online that has a few articles comparing the comics/movies with the new movies.

My hope is that the reboot is more balanced. I believe Nolan said in an interview that the Burton movies were excessively Gothic. Well Nolan's are really realistic. In Rises, Gotham is basically a modern city compared to its look in Batman Begins. I still think we haven't seen the perfect Batman movie yet. 89 is still more classic to me just because I saw that in theaters as a kid and used to watch reruns of the TV show. It just had more impact. Although, I was surprised how much I cared about Bale's Batman, I always knew he wasn't the perfect Batman going by the Rachel situation which was fairly obvious from Batman Begins.
 
Wakeem said:
These films do follow the comics and past movies. Even the TV show a bit going by Catwoman's costume. Of course, certain things are changed a bit. There is a site called Batman Online that has a few articles comparing the comics/movies with the new movies.

My hope is that the reboot is more balanced. I believe Nolan said in an interview that the Burton movies were excessively Gothic. Well Nolan's are really realistic. In Rises, Gotham is basically a modern city compared to its look in Batman Begins. I still think we haven't seen the perfect Batman movie yet. 89 is still more classic to me just because I saw that in theaters as a kid and used to watch reruns of the TV show. It just had more impact. Although, I was surprised how much I cared about Bale's Batman, I always knew he wasn't the perfect Batman going by the Rachel situation which was fairly obvious from Batman Begins.
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I am going to disagree with you here. They are not related to past films in any way, perhaps to distance themselves from the awful "Batman and Robin" film from 1997. While they have tried to add elements from the comics, they also made changes for no apparent reason. Bane is now Scottish? Gotham is now a modern metropolis? Everyone apparently knows Bruce Wayne is Batman? Those seem to be changes for the sake of being different. I certainly don't need a website to tell me where the films are wrong from the comics, I have the actual comics.

Please note that I am not hating on the films, they certainly have their highlights. And I'm sure that they helped DC increase book sales, which I applaud. I also appreciate that Nolan took a serious direction and included some great characters from the comics, even if they had been altered. After "Batman and Robin" I was genuinely worried about the Batman film franchise. And Nolan did an admirable job of bringing Batman back to the big screen.
 
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Kevin Gossett said:
New releases are typically on sale the first week. Just checked the site, and it's advertised for the $24.99 price :thumbsup
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That's the regular Blu-Ray/DVD combo pack; the version with "exclusive content" in the Steelbook packaging is listed at $29.99.

Regardless, I was at that same Best Buy today and verified there is no mention of any DVD/Blu-Ray sales in the store. And it's not just new releases--my friend picked up a complete box set of the Three Stooges shorts that was listed at $69.99 (based on the amount of dust on the box, it had been there a while), and they knocked $20 off at the register. He was rather pleased! :eek :D (y)thumbsup
 
I just thought I'd mention after the last two Burton era Batman movies with their multiple villains and Batnipples how petty I find some of these complaints. Perhaps it's a generational thing. :darnkids
 
outlander said:
I just thought I'd mention after the last two Burton era Batman movies with their multiple villains and Batnipples how petty I find some of these complaints. Perhaps it's a generational thing. :darnkids
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That is why I don't mind reboots or remakes or sequels. I couldnt imagine never seeing a new Batman or Star Wars (insert favorite franchise) movie again EVER.

People in 2032 are not going to be satisfied with Nolan's Batman or JJ Abrams Star Trek. They will make their own.

Hope I'm there to see the reboot of the prequels.
 
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outlander said:
I just thought I'd mention after the last two Burton era Batman movies with their multiple villains and Batnipples
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Only one of the Burton movies had multiple villains and none of them had batnipples.

Get it right or pay the price. :devil
 
Have you guys seen what that damn smashed cowl version blu-ray is going for on ebay? Absolutely nuts. There is actually a member here on the rpf who sells a smashed cowl replica for less. And his is 1:1 scale!
 
R1V3R5 said:
Have you guys seen what that damn smashed cowl version blu-ray is going for on ebay? Absolutely nuts. There is actually a member here on the rpf who sells a smashed cowl replica for less. And his is 1:1 scale!
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That's because it was truly a limited edition, I had to call 8 different walmarts before I found one that had a single copy... Luckily they held it for me.....

Looks like about 100 bucks is the ceiling on them though..... All of the ultra high dollar ones won't sell...

Sent from my HTC One X
 
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R1V3R5 said:
I am going to disagree with you here. They are not related to past films in any way, perhaps to distance themselves from the awful "Batman and Robin" film from 1997. While they have tried to add elements from the comics, they also made changes for no apparent reason. Bane is now Scottish? Gotham is now a modern metropolis? Everyone apparently knows Bruce Wayne is Batman? Those seem to be changes for the sake of being different. I certainly don't need a website to tell me where the films are wrong from the comics, I have the actual comics.

Please note that I am not hating on the films, they certainly have their highlights. And I'm sure that they helped DC increase book sales, which I applaud. I also appreciate that Nolan took a serious direction and included some great characters from the comics, even if they had been altered. After "Batman and Robin" I was genuinely worried about the Batman film franchise. And Nolan did an admirable job of bringing Batman back to the big screen.
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The Nolan films aren't related but they have tons of nods to the older films. Maybe even those horrible last two which I happily can't remember. I think I saw Forever twice in theaters for some reason. I saw Batman and Robin once in theater and was laughing almost the whole time.

But in the Nolan films for example: In Batman Begins, a lot of people say "who is this guy" just like in Batman 89, there is the shortened version of the trip to the Batcave with Rachel, and a few more I can't remember right now. Dark Knight is full of stuff from the Joker's final fall, and the Batpod reveal like in Batman Returns. Dark Knight Rises has Batman saving the city using the Bat just like Batman did with the Batwing in 89, they even both pull up to avoid the building in the same direction. Catwoman and Bruce dance at a masquerade party just like in Batman Returns. There are tons more to find.

You should check that Batman Online site. There were a whole bunch of comic similarities that I didn't know about. But I don't have a massive knowledge of the Batman comics.

Batman-Online - Comic Influences on The Dark Knight Rises

R1V3R5 said:
Have you guys seen what that damn smashed cowl version blu-ray is going for on ebay? Absolutely nuts. There is actually a member here on the rpf who sells a smashed cowl replica for less. And his is 1:1 scale!
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I need to check it out. There are so many versions of Dark Knight Rises that I just decided to wait for the definitive trilogy set to come out after all the hoopla is over.
 
Wakeem said:
You should check that Batman Online site. There were a whole bunch of comic similarities that I didn't know about. But I don't have a massive knowledge of the Batman comics.
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I appreciate your advice, but I'm a walking Batman encyclopedia. I remember seeing Batman in the "Super Friends" cartoons in the late 70s/early 80s and I was instantly bitten by the Batman bug. In fact, I still have a subscription to "Batman" and "Detective comics." And "Batman and Robin" and "The Dark Knight" as well.
 
Mask of the Phantasm and Nolan films are the only Batman on film I accept as proper tellings. But there is still plenty of room to improve on taking the comic page to screen.
We've not seen the pure comic Batman yet up there.
 
Jeyl said:
Only one of the Burton movies had multiple villains and none of them had batnipples.

Get it right or pay the price. :devil
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God you are queen of the semantics. The Burton Era Batman includes those last two flicks that Joel S. ruined.

From Wikipedia: Joel Schumacher's Batman films are known for their addition of rubber nipples to the Batman and Robin costumes (on the DVD commentary, Schumacher claimed they were inspired by statues of the Greek gods), though they are noticeably absent from the secondary suits Batman wears during the climaxes of both films.

Multiple villains:

II. Penguin-Catwoman-Max Schreck.

III. Riddler-Two Face.

IV. Mr. Freeze-Poison Ivy-Bane



I'll grant you Pfieffer's Catwoman was more anti heroine than villain but all the rest were villains

"Pay the price". Gawd, get over yourself Jewel. Keep counting them nipples.
 
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outlander said:
...The Burton Era Batman includes those last two flicks that Joel S. ruined...
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Technically, the "Burton era" ended with Batman Forever since that was the last Batman movie he produced; he had no involvement whatsoever with Batman & Robin.
 
I'm not sure I accept that. By Burton era Batman I don't mean only Batman movies that were directed by Burton or produced by Burton personally. I mean the run of Bat Films that were started with Keaton/Nicholson and Warner Bros. continued without Keaton and eventually without Burton.

Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney were all "the same" Batman living in "the same" Burton Gotham even though the character was portrayed by three different actors. Things got pretty stupid after Burton stopped directing. More characters! More vehicles! More celebrities! Bigger! More! Bigger! More villians! Nipples!

Christopher Nolan's Batman reboot was an entirely different Batman character in a completely different mileau. I prefer Nolan's trilogy. I prefer Ledger's Joker. I go back and forth on Catwoman.
 
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