Egon Spengler
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Was pretty let down by this film.
The Dark Knight Rises (Post-release)
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Timmythekid
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Re: Your View: Dark Knight Rises ending *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
FFuuuuuuuuuny you should ask, as the wife and I finally got around to DKR last night and....well...just....hmmmm..yeah. Keep in mind this is from someone who really liked the two preceeding entries in Nolan's trilogy. Also SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Bruce is in the chopper - we see the countdown hit 5 seconds (oh, anyone else notice the first time we see the timer it's at 11:38? Heh...anyways), it blows with a detonation range of 6 miles. No, I'm sorry, there's no "Bat-Neutron Bomb Repellent Spray" in this dojo. Dude is D-E-A-D, not in Florance. Otherwise you've just wasted the drama of Bruce's sacrifice and inevitable end, going out fighting for his city. Unless Alfred was just senile and delusional...which makes it all tragic, in which case, Bravo Christopher.
2) Blake's real name might have been cute if the scene wasn't so forced "You should use your REAL NAME...I like it, you know, YOUR REAAALLL NAME (wink wink at camera), which is RRRRROOOOOBIN? YOU KNOW?". It was so awkward as to be groan-inducing. Plus, the movie didn't really earn it. Yeah, he was a good cop, yeah he's another angry orphan, but he didn't really DO anything to suggest he's got the bad ass resolve to be the batman. Oh well, at least no Robin nipples this time, which I guess is an improvement.
2) If you're going to a) turn over the house to hundreds of orphans what in gods name would possess you to b)Set up the next Batman in the cave UNDER THE DAMN HOUSE?!! Constant occupation by hundreds of pre-teens? What could POSSIBLY go wrong? You know, other than, one or more of them stumbling in the way YOU found the cave was stumbling into it while dicking around the grounds of the house as a pre-teen:facepalm
The ending wasn't earned, and in-universe is so poorly thought out that it's evident that all that cranial trauma took more of a toll on Bruce than we realized in the begining. Oh, and so, what, Selina really just needed a good man to fix her? Jeesus....Aside from that, the ending was just great :lol
A couple of other things that occurred to me, not about the ending...
3) Say...what happened to Bruce needing the neat-o Q-Ray band on his leg to walk? He didn't have it in the Pit, but seemed just peachy. :unsure
4) Honestly, Thalia's best plan was "hope they figure out our plan and send every last cop into the sewers, then haul a neutron bomb around randomly FOR FIVE MONTHS while any number of things could go wrong?". :confused
5)Soooo...Bruce climbs out of the Pit, peniless, SOMEWHERE in the middle east (?), with no ID, no supplies, nothing and makes it back to Gotham in 20 days how exactly?
6) Speaking of climbing out of the Pit, the wall wasn't really all that much smoother once you reach the ledge, and only ran for about another 10 feet. My 7 year old could have free climbed that thing.
Frankly, by the end of the movie I was all like :lol at the logical inconsistencies, the utter failure to make Bane an interesting villain, the total lack of chemistry in the Catwoman/Batman teamups (which mostly consisted of the two strolling through tunnels - EXCITEMENT! Massive, massive disappointment given what came before.
Hi Guys,
I was wondering; what did you guys think of the ending of the Dark Knight Rises? I thought while not explaining everything (as to leave some stuff for the imagination) I think they took a short way out and just finished at epic series of films with a fairy mediocre ending. With out revealing too much I like the fact of what happened and the result. But I feel it was a bit of a cop out in the way they got there. I've tried to limit spoilers for those of you that haven't seen it yet!
What are your views?
opcorn
FFuuuuuuuuuny you should ask, as the wife and I finally got around to DKR last night and....well...just....hmmmm..yeah. Keep in mind this is from someone who really liked the two preceeding entries in Nolan's trilogy. Also SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Bruce is in the chopper - we see the countdown hit 5 seconds (oh, anyone else notice the first time we see the timer it's at 11:38? Heh...anyways), it blows with a detonation range of 6 miles. No, I'm sorry, there's no "Bat-Neutron Bomb Repellent Spray" in this dojo. Dude is D-E-A-D, not in Florance. Otherwise you've just wasted the drama of Bruce's sacrifice and inevitable end, going out fighting for his city. Unless Alfred was just senile and delusional...which makes it all tragic, in which case, Bravo Christopher.
2) Blake's real name might have been cute if the scene wasn't so forced "You should use your REAL NAME...I like it, you know, YOUR REAAALLL NAME (wink wink at camera), which is RRRRROOOOOBIN? YOU KNOW?". It was so awkward as to be groan-inducing. Plus, the movie didn't really earn it. Yeah, he was a good cop, yeah he's another angry orphan, but he didn't really DO anything to suggest he's got the bad ass resolve to be the batman. Oh well, at least no Robin nipples this time, which I guess is an improvement.
2) If you're going to a) turn over the house to hundreds of orphans what in gods name would possess you to b)Set up the next Batman in the cave UNDER THE DAMN HOUSE?!! Constant occupation by hundreds of pre-teens? What could POSSIBLY go wrong? You know, other than, one or more of them stumbling in the way YOU found the cave was stumbling into it while dicking around the grounds of the house as a pre-teen:facepalm
The ending wasn't earned, and in-universe is so poorly thought out that it's evident that all that cranial trauma took more of a toll on Bruce than we realized in the begining. Oh, and so, what, Selina really just needed a good man to fix her? Jeesus....Aside from that, the ending was just great :lol
A couple of other things that occurred to me, not about the ending...
3) Say...what happened to Bruce needing the neat-o Q-Ray band on his leg to walk? He didn't have it in the Pit, but seemed just peachy. :unsure
4) Honestly, Thalia's best plan was "hope they figure out our plan and send every last cop into the sewers, then haul a neutron bomb around randomly FOR FIVE MONTHS while any number of things could go wrong?". :confused
5)Soooo...Bruce climbs out of the Pit, peniless, SOMEWHERE in the middle east (?), with no ID, no supplies, nothing and makes it back to Gotham in 20 days how exactly?
6) Speaking of climbing out of the Pit, the wall wasn't really all that much smoother once you reach the ledge, and only ran for about another 10 feet. My 7 year old could have free climbed that thing.
Frankly, by the end of the movie I was all like :lol at the logical inconsistencies, the utter failure to make Bane an interesting villain, the total lack of chemistry in the Catwoman/Batman teamups (which mostly consisted of the two strolling through tunnels - EXCITEMENT! Massive, massive disappointment given what came before.
niennumb1
Master Member
Man... yeah... And what's with a guy who can dress as a bat and fight crime and work with a police commissioner who calls him by means of a spotlight in the sky? Ridiculous, huh? Why not text him?
#1 we have to remember this is all based off a fictitious entity that takes place in a fictitious city with technology that doesn't exist. While some things like time not affecting people's hygiene while trapped in a tunnel could have been looked at better, I think in movies like this you're allowed some creative license to stretch reality. Be open to that while watching a film about a superhero of this kind that doesn't exist in our world.
Is TDKR a perfect film? Nah... I really enjoyed it though and really dig the films Nolan made.
Batman's been told through different visions through the years and this one was the most gritty and more "realistic" based (though not 100% real the way we know our world) telling of the Wayne story.
#1 we have to remember this is all based off a fictitious entity that takes place in a fictitious city with technology that doesn't exist. While some things like time not affecting people's hygiene while trapped in a tunnel could have been looked at better, I think in movies like this you're allowed some creative license to stretch reality. Be open to that while watching a film about a superhero of this kind that doesn't exist in our world.
Is TDKR a perfect film? Nah... I really enjoyed it though and really dig the films Nolan made.
Batman's been told through different visions through the years and this one was the most gritty and more "realistic" based (though not 100% real the way we know our world) telling of the Wayne story.
Got my special edition blu-ray too yesterday !
As for the "inconsticencies" you're talking about Timmythekid, they are certainly not as logical as you seem to think...
The chopper issue was discussed a number of time now, the conclusion was that he probably ejected from the Bat way before the explosion, we only see a shot of him in what appears to be a cockpit, but it may very well be an escape pod far away from the chopper auto-piloted.
Don't take seriously Blake's name, it was no more than a nod to the fans, otherwise his real name would have been Dick Grayson, Jason Todd or Tim Drake. And the batman legacy thing was just Nolan's way to say that Batman is enternal, it doesn't matter who is under the cowl, it's what he stands for that counts.
I'm going to rewatch it today, but do we ever see a shot of Bruce's leg without the device ? Because this thing seemed very tightly attached to his leg, Bane's men could very well not have been able to remove it. Plus he already was broken up, why would they bother touching it when the dude has a broken spine ? What bother me more is the way his spine was fixed, but hey, it's a movie.
Well, the batcave is pretty well hidden, I can tell you that when I was a little kid, my dad told me there was a safe hidden somewhere in the house. I've been looking for it for twelve year and never found it until my dad finally told me when I was older. So the chance of finding the batcave not knowing it even exists seems pretty slim to me.
And since blake sometimes works at this orphanage, it gives him a reason to go there and access the batcave if needed.
The plan was to get rid of all authority figures and provoke some kind of revolution, hard to do with a full police force outside. Now I can't argue with your feelings, if you didn't like the way it was written by Nolan, nothing anybody can do about it.
Command there, Wayne has been traveling the world incognito for 7 years before Begins, then he was trained to stay invisible by the LOS, a group of elite ninja assassins, I don't see how getting back in gotham was an issue for him. Now did he get in Gotham ? He either had some path only known to him, or he walked across the ice, which he was trained to do in Begins (fighting scene on ice against Ra's).
The pit seemed pretty smooth to me at the ledge, but I'll rewatch it and be careful at that moment.
I really don't understand why people are this way regarding TDKR, TDK had his share of inconsistancies and yet nobody seems to care. How did the joker put hundreds of oil barrels in the two boats and nobody saw anything ? What happened to the guest Batman left with the Joker crew to save rachel, and how did they survive without a scratch such a fall ? How the hell does the Joker go on top of a building full of cops and the mayor to hang and drop a body disguised as batman and goes unnoticed ?
Still it's one of the greatest movie of this decade.
Get my point ?
As for the "inconsticencies" you're talking about Timmythekid, they are certainly not as logical as you seem to think...
The chopper issue was discussed a number of time now, the conclusion was that he probably ejected from the Bat way before the explosion, we only see a shot of him in what appears to be a cockpit, but it may very well be an escape pod far away from the chopper auto-piloted.
Don't take seriously Blake's name, it was no more than a nod to the fans, otherwise his real name would have been Dick Grayson, Jason Todd or Tim Drake. And the batman legacy thing was just Nolan's way to say that Batman is enternal, it doesn't matter who is under the cowl, it's what he stands for that counts.
I'm going to rewatch it today, but do we ever see a shot of Bruce's leg without the device ? Because this thing seemed very tightly attached to his leg, Bane's men could very well not have been able to remove it. Plus he already was broken up, why would they bother touching it when the dude has a broken spine ? What bother me more is the way his spine was fixed, but hey, it's a movie.
Well, the batcave is pretty well hidden, I can tell you that when I was a little kid, my dad told me there was a safe hidden somewhere in the house. I've been looking for it for twelve year and never found it until my dad finally told me when I was older. So the chance of finding the batcave not knowing it even exists seems pretty slim to me.
And since blake sometimes works at this orphanage, it gives him a reason to go there and access the batcave if needed.
The plan was to get rid of all authority figures and provoke some kind of revolution, hard to do with a full police force outside. Now I can't argue with your feelings, if you didn't like the way it was written by Nolan, nothing anybody can do about it.
Command there, Wayne has been traveling the world incognito for 7 years before Begins, then he was trained to stay invisible by the LOS, a group of elite ninja assassins, I don't see how getting back in gotham was an issue for him. Now did he get in Gotham ? He either had some path only known to him, or he walked across the ice, which he was trained to do in Begins (fighting scene on ice against Ra's).
The pit seemed pretty smooth to me at the ledge, but I'll rewatch it and be careful at that moment.
I really don't understand why people are this way regarding TDKR, TDK had his share of inconsistancies and yet nobody seems to care. How did the joker put hundreds of oil barrels in the two boats and nobody saw anything ? What happened to the guest Batman left with the Joker crew to save rachel, and how did they survive without a scratch such a fall ? How the hell does the Joker go on top of a building full of cops and the mayor to hang and drop a body disguised as batman and goes unnoticed ?
Still it's one of the greatest movie of this decade.
Get my point ?
Zcoberly
Sr Member
thank you for this...I never understood it either...EVERY MOVIE has these inconsistancies...you know why, because they are MOVIES!!! MOVIES not REAL...MOVIES they are for fun...it must be a real shame to not be able to let go of everything you know to be real and true just long enough to enjoy a MOVIE, it's one thing to notice the inconsistencies...but they are not anything that should ruin the movie for this many people...
Couldn't agree more!!!
Tigerblood
Well-Known Member
Right on. I've been telling people to just enjoy the movie as it is instead of griping about it 'cause they didn't see what they wanted to see/ expecting in the movie. And I still don't get it why people are still confused about if Batman ejected from The Bat or not. When Selina asked him if he's going to fly it out of the city and eject, Batman replied with "No. Auto-pilot".
Jedi2016
Sr Member
He says "No auto-pilot" (there's no pause indicating a sentence break of any kind), meaning he had to remain in the plane until detonation.
He was lying, of course, but that was all part of his plan to disappear afterwards, he wanted everyone to think he was dead. That was the only reason the auto-pilot subplot was even added.
Tigerblood
Well-Known Member
I expect anyone to say that.
The Dark Knight Rises - Batman Carries the Bomb (HD) IMAX - YouTube
but then again...
Crank729
Sr Member
Re: Your View: Dark Knight Rises ending *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Answers to the above.
1). He's Batman.
2). He's ( new ) Batman
3). He's Batman.
4). She's Hot.
5). He's Batman.
6). He's Batman
Answers to the above.
1). He's Batman.
2). He's ( new ) Batman
3). He's Batman.
4). She's Hot.
5). He's Batman.
6). He's Batman
Mr Webber
Master Member
DarkKnight
Sr Member
so who has the best exclusive for the movie Best Buy or Target?
spoiler
How did the Robin kid recognize Bruce/Batman?, they should have made him the same kid from Batman Begins that sees him climbing on the wall
spoiler
How did the Robin kid recognize Bruce/Batman?, they should have made him the same kid from Batman Begins that sees him climbing on the wall
SVTStingRay
Sr Member
the broken bat cowl (should be available everywhere)
target exclusive digibooks
best buy canada exclusive cover
best buy will have a steelbook (with bonus disk Includes The Dark Knight Reborn documentary
target exclusive digibooks
best buy canada exclusive cover
best buy will have a steelbook (with bonus disk Includes The Dark Knight Reborn documentary
Jedi2016
Sr Member
This is a good one (includes spoilers if you haven't seen the film):
BANE OUTTAKES (Auralnauts extended edition) - YouTube
BANE OUTTAKES (Auralnauts extended edition) - YouTube
Zombie_61
Master Member
I picked this one up today. Despite the very visible sticker price of $29.99, when the clerk scanned the bar code it came up at $24.99. I have no idea whether or not he noticed the difference, but he didn't say anything so neither did I....best buy will have a steelbook (with bonus disk Includes The Dark Knight Reborn documentary
The sticker price is the regular price... It's on sale
Zombie_61
Master Member
That makes sense, but makes me wonder why they didn't advertise that fact in the store; the shelf tag also had it listed as $29.99 with no mention of it being on sale. Or is this standard practice that I'm unaware of because I rarely shop at Best Buy?
New releases are typically on sale the first week. Just checked the site, and it's advertised for the $24.99 price :thumbsup
R1V3R5
Member
Went ahead and got the trilogy since it was only $28. And just gave my standalone copies of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight to my brother in-law. Each film certainly has highlights, as well as some lowlights. Overall I still feel TDK was the strongest of the trilogy. And although I did enjoy the films, I'm happy the movies have concluded and hoping the next film actually follows the comic.
