TFA *** First Order Snowtrooper

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by wasili, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    Hey guys and gals,

    Although i've build quite a lot, and a for a long time, doing full costumes is new for me. And i absolutely love it.
    When i saw the pics of the new Snowtrooper at Celebrations, i decided to make this my first costume build. Now time for its own WIP thread here on the RPF.

    Still at an early stage, here's my progress so far....

    3d file (using Rhino3d) of the 'mictip' (for lack of a better term) on the chin of the helmet, drawn up and machined from chemiwood. White bits in styrene.

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    In primer. Will add the groove on the side, on the lathe. After that, i'll add the white bits on the side.

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    Start of the backpack in 2d (AutoCAD)/3d (Rhino3d), tracing a multitude of photos and trying to compensate for perspective.

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    The 'beltbox'. Again in 3d, the pouches on each side are simple shapes for blocking out the space. Nothing fancy.

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    The belt looks to be made from a fine ribbed rubber flooring. I found something locally and got a sample. Close, but not a perfect match (still looking). Cut a strip of the width of the belt.

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    The beltbox is two parts. Front is white, rear is black. I only took a shot of the black part being machined. I will mold and cast this in black tinted pu rubber.

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    A quick combo for the belt, and both parts for the box.

    Thanx for looking.

    Cheers,
    Wasili

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  2. virateck

    virateck Active Member

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    Great start !!! can't wait to see the helmet ;) :)
     
  3. T5H

    T5H Active Member

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    Beautiful work so far. I'm glad to finally see someone committing himself with the Snowtrooper, i really like the costume.
     
  4. deserthunter

    deserthunter Well-Known Member

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    This is going to be good. Getting ready to start soft goods once I find suitable fabric. Can't wait to see the pack.
     
  5. Bayani

    Bayani New Member

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    Your work looks very promising! Looking forward to seeing your progress.
     
  6. DaveF45122

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    Any updates?

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  7. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    Thanx for the kind words guys. I continue to do the 3d modelling on the parts, now that my cnc's are running the last parts for my Turret run.

    In the menatime i have been modelling this TFA thingy as well.

    Will update soon with more Snowy bits and pieces.

    Cheers,
    Wasili

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  8. sctcarts

    sctcarts Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Excellent!

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  9. DaveF45122

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    Nice

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  10. DaveF45122

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    One my way to shop for soft armor material.

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  11. DaveF45122

    DaveF45122 New Member

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    Yeah went out and the people who are suppose to be experts had no clue on the material.

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  12. DaveF45122

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    Anyone found it online to buy? If you can post the link.

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  13. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    To be honest, i have no idea. Maybe post in the other thread, and ask. This thread here is just for my build. But feel free to show any progress.
     
  14. Andrewhitc

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    Anovos will offer them after premier. I'm also saw some creepy China recast ones, but they look awful
     
  15. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    I'm sure Anovos will, but i'll be building my own from front to back. The vacvormed production process used by Anovos on the TFA Stormtrooper makes them very different from the screenused cast costumes.

    My goal is not just to make a costume, but only a screenaccurate costume.
     
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  16. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Personally don't want to wait several years either to have this made....blah
     
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  17. Westies14

    Westies14 Master Member

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    Awesome! Subscribed.
     
  18. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    Back on the worksbench :) Updates very soon...
     
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  19. BobasDent1138

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    Very exciting!I've been looking into fabrics and I think parts of it could possibly be a type of tackle twill, that white fabric with the slight sheen used on Boba Fett's vest and neckseal. That's what the torso and maybe the legs look like to me for the new snowy

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  20. RatFacedMonkey

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    I was wondering about this as well. Do you think they lose detail by vacuum forming?
     
  21. deserthunter

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    Fabric is not tackle twill, it is polyester jersey backed neoprene. This has been confirmed already
     
  22. BobasDent1138

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    Okay, thanks for the clarification :) do you have a link to that discovery? I found a white polyester neoprene online, but just want to confirm before I spend $25 /yard

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  23. Omega2730

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    So if one was considering this costume for 501st membership, would one be able to use a fabric that looks close to the polyester jersey? Or would one have to use the exact fabric?

    Sorry for the newbie questions, but I'm a newb...
     
  24. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    Thx on the neoprene.

    And as for the 501st, i have no idea. Not a member.

    Cheers,
    Wasili
     
  25. Hand-Schaub

    Hand-Schaub Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Looking forward to the progress here. Consider me an "investor"
     
  26. watsonstudios

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    How's the progress coming? Love the backpack, I'm starting on that part next. I'm working on the same costume. This is also my first full costume build. I think the new snow trooper is the coolest trooper so far! I'm 3d modeling all the hard armor and producing via 3d printing and CNC router, like yourself. Maybe we can share ideas and resources? Found a good fabric combo that looks very close to the reference pics. I did some practice pieces to get the quilting down. Not too easy but getting the hang of it. Here's a few shots of my "soft armor" and 3d progress. Haha, the sleeve was just practice, it's a bit short. Eventually I'll start my own thread for this one. :)
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  27. BobasDent1138

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    Awesome job on the 3d modeling! Sweet work on the sleeve too! What material did you use? And, a noob question, how do you get those "puffy" bits on the arm? Do you stuff it? I'm starting on my soft parts soon so that's why I'm extra curious about that

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  28. watsonstudios

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    It's just basic quilting to get the poofy parts. I'm using polyester batting for filling. You just put the batting in between 2 layers of fabric and sew lines. Pretty simple even for a novice seamster! The top layer is a fusible interfacing called Pellon. I've done tons of searching for a fabric that matches, mostly looking at polyester knits but this stuff looks almost exact! It's a thin fabric but over the batting it looks fine. It has just the right shine and the exact thread texture of the real suit.
     
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  29. triumphfx

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    I'll post my pics from the exhibit soon.
     
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  30. BobasDent1138

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    I think your fabric looks really great! Others have said neoprene is the way to go but if this pellon stuff is cheaper/easier to work with I'll go for that

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  31. wasili

    wasili Sr Member

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    Al looking fantastic. Thx for showing your 3d work and fabric work.

    I'm nearly done with the masters for the forearms and shoulderarmor. Have all the parts for the belt. Done the 3d for the chest, but looking for time to machine it. Hope to have all except the helmet done before the end of the year.

    I'll post some more pics soon.

    Cheers and keep showing your progress.

    Wasili
     
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  33. watsonstudios

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    I use 3ds Max for polygon modeling and Spaceclaim for solid modeling.
     
  34. BobasDent1138

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    Some (maybe) big news!!! I'll get pics up later, but 24 hours ago I sprayed my black Kamik Canucks with white Flex Seal from Lowes. So far the result is great! I was afraid the stuff went on too heavy and I'd lose detail, but so far it looks like it's really bonded and kept much of the original detail! I walked around a bit and no cracking, peeling, bubbling, nothing. Only thing is the bottom is slightly sticky. I'll give it the full 48 hrs until I give a final verdict. Till then, I glossed the bottom with spray paint sealer, well see if that helps.

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  35. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Nice, I'm curious to see the final results. I've still got a black pair of them

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    Yes, this is freaking amazing! We'd love it if you'd be willing to post your progress over on the 501st Blizzard Force detachment!
     
  36. tubachris85x

    tubachris85x Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Double post....
     
  37. triumphfx

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    Here are pics from Star Wars costume exhibit in NYC.
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  38. triumphfx

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    Snow trooper cont..
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    Snow trooper cont. again....
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  39. tubachris85x

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    Awesome!!! Thank you so much!!

    This already appears to be a completely different suit than what we saw at Celebration- Weathered boots and, can't tell if it's lighting, but less glossy.
     
  40. tubachris85x

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    This is something I've been slacking to put together, but based on everything we've seen I'd say this is how it is now, where the "long duster" portion is a separate over coat, so now we have an undershirt w/ exposed sleeves/center (below he chest armor). Just did a quick crappy MS paint to show what I'm referring to

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  41. tubachris85x

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    Good news, the helmets used mesh

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  42. BobasDent1138

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    WOW what a shot! Now, is that mesh over a lens or just mesh? Where would one find mesh that tight?

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  43. tubachris85x

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    Honestly, I'm 100% positive it's just straight mesh. There's no reflection or shimmering. Plus, it just wouldn't make sense to use a lens when you're using mesh-it's redundant. Mesh removes the whole fogging problem. Disney did this for select character costumes for their disney parks.

    The other thing is that the eye slot is so narrow that even on film, you wouldn't see anything but black anyway
     
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  44. BobasDent1138

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    True, fair points. I'll do a search for this mesh. I'll also post pics of my boot soon :)

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  45. BobasDent1138

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    Alright here are some pics! This is one all-around coat of Flex Seal after 48 hours. After 24 the bottom was still slightly sticky, but now it's all good! Honestly, for a $12 can of paint, it came out pretty well, especially for one coat. When it first went on, it looked very thick and like it was going to coat over all of the detail. Clearly it preserved most detail! See for yourself! :D
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    Now, as you can see the only peeling is from the tips of the bottom grips, as they scratch against the ground. But as long as you don't pick at it it won't peel up the boot. I'm going to see how long a single coat lasts on these , then if they peel or wear out I'll peel it all off and do two coats. So far so good! :D

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  46. watsonstudios

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    Ok, so that's 2 hours I'll never get back! After seeing these new photos that were released I just had to see how close I was with my 3d snow trooper helmet. I tried to duplicate the straight-on shot as best I could to get a comparison. I hate doing this because it makes me want to go back and tweak some more but I already started printing the top part or "dome" of the helmet so that part I will leave as is. I hate being so picky! :)

    Photo on the left, my rendering on the right.
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  47. tubachris85x

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    Looks really good! The biggest critiques I am noticing is that your aerators/tube connectors are missing some details and maybe the black line above the eye-slit could be a little thinner, but pretty spot on otherwise
     
  48. watsonstudios

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    Yes, the little "mics" are not finished and are missing the little square pieces. The black line issue will just be a matter of how it's painted. Even the studio helmet has some less than perfect paint details. The flame trooper detail lines are a great example of that. :)
     
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  49. tubachris85x

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    All good! Did you get my PM by chance?
     
  50. BobasDent1138

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    Before I paint my second boot, any thoughts on my first based on those pics? If it doesn't look too great I'll try something else.

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