Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)

If you don't like this movie, it's because you didn't go see it.

I am 31, I've been with the Turtles almost my entire life. Like many of you, I was so sad and angry to hear that Michael Bay would be doing something with my beloved turtles. I never saw any of the Transformers movies.

But I was curious still about this movie. My friend and I actually paid for each other's tickets today so we could say we didn't actually pay to see this movie. wink.

As it turns out, it's a pretty fun film. If you can get past the turtles faces (I know, they have lips and a NOSE. wowww) You will enjoy it. I had zero (or maybe negative) expectations for this movie. It turned out fine. I laughed a few times, the action was good, and i felt like these turtles really kicked some ass.

Will Arnett is in it, just in case you didn't know.

This is a site for prop replicas, and I'm hoping that the better of you can get your heads out of your Michael Bay hating behinds and start on modeling Shredder. ASAP. Because he is menacing. Almost has a War Machine like quality to his armor. The boots and shin areas are really Iron Man-like. The whole costume looks like a dream to finish and a nightmare to complete at the same time.

I usually don't like to say anyhting to such negative Nancys, but this site is usually so positive. Why all the hate in this thread for a movie you haven't even seen? "I hope it tanks" isn't productive and I feel like it might deter anyone that has anything positive to say about the film, costume building, or otherwise. Make a thread titled: TMNT 2014 "probably" sucks, and then bash away.

Really though, I'm not saying it's the best. But if you see it, you might be pleasantly surprised. I seriously saw it thinking I would hate it. I actually don't reply to most posts on theRPF, but i come this site the most for the community.

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for me, is that this was a cash grab. pure and simple. it's got all the bay trappings, all ninja stuff has been removed. the only reason the turtles are ninja, is because it's been expected, and from what I hear, they use more brute force than anything else.

this is not the turtles movie that we as fans deserve after finally having it be picked up by a company that can do the right thing and make a big budget fun fest. that's my main gripe with it. This movie, by all acounts, is made for people who don't care about story, like stereo types, and like shiny explosions. that's more star wars...not Turtles.

They could have made CGI versions of the 90s costumes, and given them more fluidity. Shredders basic outfit could have been made shinier, out of real metal and cloth, and textured to look updated. we could have had elite ninja. Utroms...a cool intro detailing the splinter/hamto fued. nope. none of that. instead, we get shell tightening jokes. product placement so bad, that the turtles jump on victoria secret for a breast grabbing joke....and the turtle van has a direct tv dish on it's roof for cripes sake. This is Next Mutation without the heart.
 
Well, from a sequel viewpoint, having the turtles being on par strength wise with humans would have made little sense when it comes time to fight superhuman mutagen creatures.

There was product placement in the 90's as well...don't act like Dominoe's wasn't in there somewhere!

You say Shredder's outfit could have been shinier?! I think not. It was shiny as hell. And it had pieces taken directly from old samurai armor, his original purple accents were in there as well.

I'll go a step further and say Shredder was actually well done, despite his lacking backstory. He has some good one-liners. "Tonight I dine on turtle soup" He calls Splinter rat and you really get this seething hatred vibe from him. Again, without the Hamato/Uroku Saki storyline, the hate seems a bit misplaced, but there was good tension whenever he showed up nonetheless. He did leave bodies laying on the ground after whooping ass, but, you know, can't kill the good guys in the first showdown.

Master Splinter picks up a ninjutsu book in the sewer, and teaches them all how to be the ultimate badasses...just simple as reading a book...:rolleyes
He is also quite disgusting to look upon...those huge soulless eyes, piercing me. Tony Shaloub's miscast voice as well. His tail was like a bouncy whip.
 
crabra comander said:
Well, from a sequel viewpoint, having the turtles being on par strength wise with humans would have made little sense when it comes time to fight superhuman mutagen creatures.

There was product placement in the 90's as well...don't act like Dominoe's wasn't in there somewhere!

You say Shredder's outfit could have been shinier?! I think not. It was shiny as hell. And it had pieces taken directly from old samurai armor, his original purple accents were in there as well.

I'll go a step further and say Shredder was actually well done, despite his lacking backstory. He has some good one-liners. "Tonight I dine on turtle soup" He calls Splinter rat and you really get this seething hatred vibe from him. Again, without the Hamato/Uroku Saki storyline, the hate seems a bit misplaced, but there was good tension whenever he showed up nonetheless. He did leave bodies laying on the ground after whooping ass, but, you know, can't kill the good guys in the first showdown.

Master Splinter picks up a ninjutsu book in the sewer, and teaches them all how to be the ultimate badasses...just simple as reading a book...:rolleyes
He is also quite disgusting to look upon...those huge soulless eyes, piercing me. Tony Shaloub's miscast voice as well. His tail was like a bouncy whip.
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When the turtles can punch out twenty foot soldiers with one throw, and don't have to worry about dodging bullets, all the drama is gone.
Product Placement has gotten WORSE in the last 5 years. I have expect one of the turtles to do an in story ad for orange crush.

and I meant revamping the old Shredder costume from the 80s. This Shredder is virtually un recognizable, and if it where not for suit servo's, he wouldn't be able to move the damn thing. Why bother even knowing ninja arts, if the suit would do all the work for you? yawn....
 
NeilT said:
When the turtles can punch out twenty foot soldiers with one throw, and don't have to worry about dodging bullets, all the drama is gone.
Product Placement has gotten WORSE in the last 5 years. I have expect one of the turtles to do an in story ad for orange crush.

and I meant revamping the old Shredder costume from the 80s. This Shredder is virtually un recognizable, and if it where not for suit servo's, he wouldn't be able to move the damn thing. Why bother even knowing ninja arts, if the suit would do all the work for you? yawn....
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It's true, the turtles have only recently begun to sell out
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I'm seeing this movie today. It'll be an endurance test more than anything.

But come on, you know what I mean. besides, having a hit video game isn't selling out. it's a right of passage ;o).
 
What will be far more interesting is the 2nd weekend dropoff and how far that falls. Guardians fell by about 56%, according to Box Office Mojo. That's maybe more than folks expected, but we'll see which film has the greater longevity and which does better box office internationally as well.

Regardless, I'm not at all surprised that this film made money and has been greenlit for a sequel. Say what you will about him as a storyteller, but Michael Bay knows how to make money from spectacles. Even if he's just a producer, this film had all the hallmarks of a money-making, sequel-generating product. I mean, hell, if freaking G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra can make enough money to get a sequel, you HAD to expect this one would.
 
Well...I've seen it.... So, where to start? This film was definitely not.....

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Where to even begin?
What did I like?
- Shredders voice was OK.
-The Punishment Room scene was OK..
- The Elevator rap scene was OK.

that was about it.
The score. The least inspired of it all. IT sounded like it stole from every other movie out there. Most noteably, Thor, Avengers and more blatantly, Terminator.
Karai. There was ZERO reason for her to be in it at all.
Sachs. The most pointless Villain ever created. ANYONE who doubts he was supposed to be shredder, needs only to watch how Shredder is defeated for confirmation
Shredders suit. It's so GD heavy, he wouldn't be able to move it!
Turtles size, no danger if they are invulnerable to just about everything
- movies tone. First there is a ***** joke, and not much after, a fart joke. Are you for kids, or adults? Make up your mind.
- The Foot Clan. Generic gang with guns. I guess those Foot Clan auditions back in 2010 where for publicity, huh?
- hardly ANY ninja arts in it at all. you only really get a taste of it at the end.
- The Turtles holding an entire spire up for anything more than a second.
- April Defeating shredder with a kick that shouldn't even have budged him if his suit is so good.
- Splinter. If you could DESCRIBE what a fart looked like, that would be it.
-Donatello They turned him into steve Urkel. The glasses where NOT technological. they where just plain glasses to show the audience he was the nerd, in case you couldn't guess. they even gave him urkels laugh. probably thought it was cute.
- The Spire ending. They set up a cool bit of danger.... a bit of ninja action required to get out...annddd.... no payoff. just a lame joke.
- oh, and the STUPID Turtle Van. Only thrown in there to placate the angry fans. I am 100% certain.

The sad part is, I can see WHY The general audience would find this movie amusing. It borrows from just about everything ever made and has no spark of originality for the turtle verse. It's generic in every sense of the word. and has no soul... thank you michael bay and Liebsman for ruining another one.
 
I'm guilty of bashing & hating this movie before I even see it.

But this flick is asking for it. It's one of the worst kinds of reboots - not only different, but different in generic sellout ways, and it's getting too much money & marketing not to succeed. It will make money in spite of the changes, the studio will credit the changes instead of the core franchise, and they will want to continue the franchise in the new way instead of respecting the original.


The studio & Bay treated TMNT like an old expired franchise without a lot of fans that needed reinventing to work. But it wasn't, it did have them, and it didn't need it.

This is the standard complaint that diehard fans of any franchise make whenever it gets remade anew, and the fans are usually the last ones to accept that their show needed reworking. But I'm not even a huge TMNT fan and I think this franchise was fine the way it was.

The changes being made don't seem to fit the mojo of TMNT at all. If they want to swap out the basics in favor of stock parts from the summer-movie-playbook they should have at least tried to fit the themes of the franchise in some way.
 
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seelsa73 said:
what does spire mean?
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spire, TV antenna, whatever the hell that was on top of sachs building ;o).

ugh, the more I sleep on this movie, the more mad I get. it'll be a decade or more till we can hope someone who WANTS to put some effort into it gets the reigns.

I mean, when you actually LAUGH OUT LOUD at Meghan Fox's BRILLIANT reading of 'SHREDDER!'....something is wrong with your movie.
 
Honestly, I'm kinda hoping in another decade, the "reboot" craze will have subsided and we'll be back to making films that AREN'T based solely on existing brands.
 
Solo4114 said:
Honestly, I'm kinda hoping in another decade, the "reboot" craze will have subsided and we'll be back to making films that AREN'T based solely on existing brands.
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hey, a movie is only new once...then it's always familair ;o)...

I think the biggest insult in the entire movie is
APRIL AND VERNON defeat Shredder and Sachs. NOT THE GD TURTLES!

that right there is proof that this movie is crap
 
I just can't help but laugh at all the negativity directed towards this movie. You're angry that they made so many changes to the lore, sold out, aimed it squarely at kids, dumbed the characters down yadda yadda.

How pissed was *I*, after first reading the Mirage comics, to see what they'd done to the Turtles in the 80's cartoon. Shredder was reduced to a joke after being one of the pants crappingly scary characters in the comics. April was a ditsy joke. The turtles were suddenly catchphrase spouting lunch box fodder. Splinter was Hamato Yoshi!!!! What the hell"?!? Since when!??

This is why I'm not getting worked up over this new iteration of the franchise like many seem to be. What is this movie doing that the franchise hasn't done before?
 
that's just the problem. it's not doing ANYTHING the franchise has done before, it's so bland of content. there is nothing unique to the turtles in this universe.

and, lets be honest. the cartoon was on for 4 years before I ever knew the comics existed. i'm willing to bet 85% of fans who first discovered this franchise found it through the cartoon first, then the first movie. but I do see your point. they had to dumb it down for kids. The 2K3 series is as close as we'll ever get to it being like the comics.
 
That's exactly the point - in the earlier sold-out cartoon adaptation, there was still enough of the comic TMNT present to make it feel like the same franchise when kids got a bit older and gave the comics a look.



Batman has been done in everything from G-rated to R-rated forms over the decades. But they won't do a Batman reboot where Bruce Wayne is the super-powered last survivor of a faraway planet. Good movie or bad, that just would not be "Batman" anymore.
 
And what exactly about this latest iteration is not Turtles anymore?

We've had some pretty out there interpretations of the characters and their backstory over the years. From the IDW Turtles being the reincarnated sons of Hamato Yoshi to the 2003 series presenting Shredder as an Utrom. This movie seems to be taking a pretty conservative approach to adapting the source material. It hasn't deviated that much at all. What hasn't this preserved from the old Mirage comics that the Cartoon did.
 
What hasn't this preserved from the old Mirage comics that the Cartoon did.
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Um . . .well, the last time I checked, the early comic & cartoon turtles weren't 8ft tall products of a govt project. That alone completely changes the tone of things.
 
How does their height really change anything? Look at the height discrepency between the 87 and the 03 turtles.

And using the genetic experiments angle didn't do much harm to the Spider-Man franchise. We've seen hundreds of changes to character back stories in comic books. I don't see how them being test subjects (something the IDW series has done to a lesser degree) has really changed the tone.
 
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