Teaser: My new lightsaber "working" blade

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by hyperdyne, Aug 11, 2005.

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  1. hyperdyne

    hyperdyne Sr Member

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    I have been working on what I would call the "ultimate" lightsaber for some time. So I was hoping to share my work with the good folks here, since many others may be striving towards the same goal.

    Anyway I wanted to design a duelable blade that was very bright and had several advances over existing offerings. I also wanted a removeable blade, scrolling effect, as well proper dimensions. I already tackled the sound portion so I wanted "lights" to go with it.

    So I sat down some time back and designed these blade electronics myself. At first it was a slow going project, but I redid some of the work lately and it turned out better than expected. Initial tests have shown the blade to be as bright (or brighter) than a plasma blade. :eek Thus you get all the benefits of plasma - the scrolling blade effect and extreme brightness along with the benefits of a duelable blade and proper blade size. The blade electronics will even fit inside a 0.5" ID tube.

    At any rate, here are some preliminary tests I ran that I thought to share. I prototyped a blue blade first since I had several different blue sabers to compare against. NOTE: I dont have my diffusing material yet, so what you see is actually a clear polycarb tube spray painted white. Even with white paint over the tube the light transmission is very good. I expect it to increase with proper diffusion material and an optical end cap. All the pics were taken with 1/8 sec exposure time.

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    On paper this blade gives off more than 200 candela.. The blade runs off a standard battery pack and my own driver board that is only 1.5" long. I plan to do a red blade next, which should actually be brighter. :) Then I want to do a green blade. Lastly I am going to experiment with white cores and colored tubes to see how they look compared to a frosted blade.

    Let me know what you think. This has been a long haul project that I am excited to see advance to this stage.
     
  2. Chingon

    Chingon Well-Known Member

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    Looking pretty sweet. Whats the battery life on your blades? Does the fact that its so bright make a difference?
     
  3. Sean_Galt

    Sean_Galt New Member

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    Wow. That IS bright. Congrats on the results thus far- very cool.
     
  4. greatwazoo42

    greatwazoo42 Sr Member

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    OMFG. You do not kill Hyperdyne. Hyperdyne kills you...

    Man oh man that's some sweet work. Are these going to be just for your wall or are you going to let us buy these sweet blades too?
     
  5. Golgo13

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    WOW. Thats awesome, when are they gonna be available? :p
     
  6. Rabittooth

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    Wow. The second you develop a purple blade, please let me know. I'll convert my custom immediately. Amazing work.

    -Rabittooth

    EDIT: Is the EL pictured there wire or sheet? Just curious. :D
     
  7. hyperdyne

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    Thanks guys.

    Heck, I am not gonna put these on my wall. I want to duel with them.. :p I also designed in a couple new features that I am not making public yet. Watch this space for updates.

    To answer some questions: I havent considered making them in bulk as this is just a showoff of what I have been working on. If it turns into an interest thread then I will create a new thread for that. :)

    Battery life is estimated to be 1-2 hrs continuous. I am using a nice small Li-ion battery right now since it is not as large as conventional AA batts but packs the same energy.

    A purple blade is certainly doable, I am actually looking into that as one of the colors to proto later on...

    The EL shown above is wire. But the EL sheet I have is about the same brightness. So in a picture comparison they both look about the same next to the other blades. Someone actually commented that the EL doesnt even appear to be on in the pics. Well believe me I did turn it on.. :)
     
  8. DrStranglove

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  9. Polluxius

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    OK, this thread is just mean :angry

    I really want one of those, and I cant have it...

    I have blade envy. :confused

    Looks great.
     
  10. IRONMAN

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    I've always said you're a bright guy...
     
  11. Lifehost

    Lifehost New Member

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    Lookin' awesome man. Too bad I'm investing all my money at the moment in FX sabers :p (but they are so COOL. if a little lacking in the sound department).
     
  12. Darth Brass

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    That's AWESOME.

    I have an EL-esque question though - it it possible to get the flicker a la ANH with EL sabers?
     
  13. hyperdyne

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    I dont know about EL since I dont use it. :p

    I also plan to have a smaller sound card that will interface with the blade effects. Cant wait to get that done too...
     
  14. Chingon

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    I can't wait to see what you do with a red blade and I hope you do these in bulk.

    ::crosses fingers::
     
  15. Darth Brass

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    Always with the particulars, you are.

    ;)
     
  16. hyperdyne

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    I suppose you could do this with EL if you wanted to. It would take some modifications.

    I get the same effect using LEDs. It gives me greater control over the overall look of the blade.
     
  17. Boba Frett

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    That looks great..
     
  18. SithLord

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    Woah...I used to have a Parks EL saber and I can imagine how bright that actually is....finally something worthy to be called a lightsaber blade. :) Gimme-gimme...I want Sith red :D

    :cheers,

    Thomas
     
  19. SithLord

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    Can you comment on the apparent nonuniformity in brightness across the blade...maybe it's just the exposure of the photo that brings it out more?

    :cheers,

    Thomas
     
  20. Apollo

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    My Eyes... I'm still seeing spots.. Great Work...
     
  21. KingNothing

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    Did MR offer you a job yet?? Cause that's amazing work man.... I can't wait to see how this project goes..
     
  22. hyperdyne

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    :lol @ king. Thanks man.

    Thomas, the nonuniformity is due to my lackluster spray painting job. :) Like I said, I didnt have proper diffusion material so I took a polycarb blade and spray painted it white. It appears I didnt get the paint uniform across the entire blade with 2 coats of rush work. Although when you look at it the thing is pure white. I concluded that you need at least 4 coats of paint to get enough coverage to rid of these artifacts since the lighting amplifies any gradients in the paint job. I chalk it up as part of the R&D effort. :thumbsup
     
  23. Lord Maul

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    I can't wait until I get to see these in person.

    If you need someone to duel against just let me know. :D
     
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  24. JediHomer

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    your blade is absolutely kick *.

    great work so far.

    pat.
     
  25. AceVader

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    Awesome work, sounds like not only with the blade, but all around.. I will definitely be watching for updates, and I think you can count on significant interest from this board, myself included.
     
  26. forcefx

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    hyperdyne can you post a video clip.
    I love the look,the blade is a little on th skinney side,but its all good.

    I was also wandereng if you would be willing to sell some in the future..
     
  27. SurferGeek

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    Skinny?? You're just used to seeing that Chunk-O-Plexi that MR uses for their sabers. :lol
     
  28. Prop-Maker

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    THAT is some excellent work, sir. Now my eyes hurt. I'm suing.

    Just kidding.
     
  29. OldKen

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    hey hyperdyne,

    you mentioned that you were trying to make the definative saber blades that have all the good stuff of all the different kinds, and they look awesome, i was just wondering about the tip...

    you mentioned that you were waiting for optical endcaps, is that the same thing used on EL blades?

    most EL blades have the little stopper (usually red or orange) and that is one thing that i think (one of the only things) that looks better about the MR FX the newer 5th generation tips actually glow a bit and look better IMHO than the flat EL endcaps.

    so my question is, how are you dealing with the tips???


    and also, is it possible to use that diffusion material to make a curved dome to go in the tip to try and keep the light consistent throughout.

    not trying to nitpick... just curious, and also please PM me about any availability etc. info thanks.

    keep up the great work, and keep us posted.
     
  30. (^_^)

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    hyperdyne you are a genius.

    Can you imagine going to opening night at one of the Star Wars flicks, everyone with a blade dueling near the screen with their light sabers... Then you unleash yours on them...
    The force is strong with you. :D
     
  31. hyperdyne

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    I will post a video up soon. I have to redo them since the current videos I have show off some of the things I am working on but am not ready to release. ;)

    As for the tips, I havent come up with a final design yet. At first I was going to use a industrial grade optical mirror to reflect light back down the tube, but the results werent as good as I expected. I need to experiment more. I attribute it to most of the light already being diffused in the tube, as well as the lack of coherent light at the mirror. I am now looking at acrylic hemispheres for the tip, since this will look correct and also illuminate using the existing lights. I dont think you will need any diffusion material at the tip since there is so much light emanating from the blade and the acrylic will refract the incoming light anyhow.
     
  32. Hirohawa

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    Looks great.

    Are you going to sell these?
     
  33. GuntahKela

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    At this rate, it won't be long untill you design a real, working saber. Congratulations.
     
  34. gnrlotto

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    Just wanted to add a brain-blip I got (I'd call it a brainstorm, but its not that amazing a thought): Seeing this, if the electronics are this bright, and it is durable (made for dueling), anyone else thinking Blade Runner Umbrella?
     
  35. hyperdyne

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    gnrlotto, great minds think alike. :)

    That was actually my next project with this same board set. Basically I was thinking a 12" light rod for an umbrella - in different colors too. I have been wanting one of those, and so my motive was twofold when designing this kit. A nice bright saber and umbrella kit. :lol
     
  36. Golgo13

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    Oh you have to make one of those, I'm still gutted from losing out on one from used in the film. Please Please Please :lol
     
  37. hyperdyne

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    Yeah a nice white core umbrella would be cool.. :)

    And due to popular demand, here is a movie of the saber blade in action:
    Saber igniton/retraction movie

    Enjoy..
     
  38. snoose27

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    :confused What... No Production.... :confused

    Dude,.. I've been holding off on a Parks Ech...


    Hook us up, one day you will, I hope..


    Snoose
     
  39. Golgo13

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    Man that video is sweet :D

    Talk about rubbing it in :lol
     
  40. Darth Detroit

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    Red............. must do............ red blade.
     
  41. hyperdyne

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    Hopefully I can start on a red blade tomorrow.
     
  42. nae1000

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    that is truely awesome..

    when you get round to it a comparisson on durability (hilt and blade) with a parks would be great to see-or at least typed.

    and yet again- I WANT ONE..
     
  43. SithLord

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    To repeat.....awesome...awesome....awesome.... :thumbsup :thumbsup

    God I love the way it flares out to the tip at almost just the right speed and comes back when it is turned off....really incredible.

    Yes.....RED....must.........have.................soon...... :confused

    :cheers,

    Thomas
     
  44. hyperdyne

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    ok, here is a prototype red blade. I have to tone it down some, it's too bright. :eek :eek It is showing up kind of orangish to the camera since it is saturating. But it really is a nice red color. One I add proper diffusing material I hope it will photograph better. I also did a preliminary test and this proto red blade is about 50% brighter than my modified MR Vader FX so far. :thumbsup

    Anyway, here is a movie:
    Red Saber Blade Proto
     
  45. DavidS

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    so is this a similar LED setup like Corbin Das has?
     
  46. hyperdyne

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    No it is totally different. My blade has a proper scrolling effect that keeps its brightness as the blade ignites/retracts.
     
  47. rhboyd

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    A thing of beauty, indeed...

    Very nice work...

    -r.
     
  48. RoCKo

    RoCKo Sr Member

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    AWESOME. :thumbsup

    that IS a real lightsaber glow on that saber... :confused

    i wan´t one if your work is done with that sabers.
    get me on the list of interested...

    WOW.

    RoCKo
     
  49. Dewy

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    I've had my experiences with all three technologies (plasma, EL (sheet and wire), and LED core) and let me say this is by far the best looking, whatever it is. I beg you to please offer these up for sale. If you made them to order and established there'd be a waiting period you should be well set. This would really be a dream come true.
     
  50. hyperdyne

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    I am using an optical light solution right now, plus I am still working on some extra bells and whistles. Hopefully I will also have a custom aluminum hilt too. So please bear with me. :)


     

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