T1 and T2 Endoskeleton Research Thread

Failure. Supports were too strong on some, so the pieces broke while trying to take them apart. Too weak on others, so they warped. Most came out okay, but the wash and cure doesn't clean the prints, so a lot of resin residue remains - the white streaky bits - so I cannot really properly clean them before curing.

The mask works great, but working with the parts drained all my energy. Won't be able to do this at all, so I'm calling it a bust.

It's cool to see the parts in 1:6 scale though.

I will do 1 or 2 more print project and then I'm gonna call that done and over with. It is simply not something I can manage. Sorry.

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At least you tried...;)(y)(y)
 
I wouldn’t call that a failure. You’ve got some good pieces there and it’s only something you’re just learning. On the other hand if it is draining you a lot and not fun to play with then I understand. Very cool to see either way. :)
 
Yeah, I've been working with this for too long now... and it just keeps slamming me up against a wall I cannot climb, and closing all roads ahead one by one.

The print yesterday failed. The print today failed even though I trimmed as much away as I could to make it smaller. I used only heavy supports, but it still peeled off the build plate, which means the bottom exposure time is too little, but I cannot increase that because then I won't be able to get the model and supports off the build plate.

And my body still serms to react negatively to it even though the mask works... so I don't feel I can risk it anymore. Just wanted to get that 1 last thing done... but it looks like it's shut-down time.
 
I understand. You don’t want to end up sick and stressed for something that’s meant to be enjoyable for you. You’ve contributed so much to all this as it is. ;)
 
Yeah, I have other options. It just felt like I was dumping too much on them... so I'd hoped I could at least help out a little to get things going... share the load... but that doesn't seem to be an option.

FDM printing is another matter and things have greatly improved since the one I owned and then sold a few years ago... so that could be an option in the future... but resin printing seems to be a closed chapter for me.
 
Yeah, I have other options. It just felt like I was dumping too much on them... so I'd hoped I could at least help out a little to get things going... share the load... but that doesn't seem to be an option.

FDM printing is another matter and things have greatly improved since the one I owned and then sold a few years ago... so that could be an option in the future... but resin printing seems to be a closed chapter for me.

I recommend trying a water wash resin. The stuff smells way less and it’s easy to work with and clean. Been using it exclusively for years and I love it. I have no interest in any of the resins that require alcohol to clean. For anything that needs to be stronger, I just print FDM.
 
Bad resin can ruin the experience. I started with quality and expensive resins and was impressed, then tried cheap, brittle, etc... It can really make you not do it anymore.
 
That's a shame about the resin. I wonder if a light scrub after washing the resin followed by a rinse would help remove any lingering residue?
 
Expensive does not mean quality. Even a different color can give completely different results.
 

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Yeah, resin is finnicky. It's recommended to do exposure tests and calibration tests for every type of resin you use, which can be a lot messing around. That said, there are various crowd-sourced charts with exposure settings for various resin and printer combinations.
 
This may be an obvious part, but I was just wondering. What are the encircled pieces? They are definitely not pistons. Spotted when looking through ghostman's images of the T1.

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This may be an obvious part, but I was just wondering. What are the encircled pieces? They are definitely not pistons. Spotted when looking through ghostman's images of the T1.

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The T1 Endoskeletons certainly used some RC hardware. The hands and feet look to have control/linkage parts here and there. These look to me like some form of "turnbuckle" sort of like this example:
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-Dana
 
Crazy timing too that you posted that question as I'm almost done modeling my take on the T1 feet... and I'm literally about to start on those parts right now. Crazy! Here's a peek at where I'm at (still a work in progress):
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I think it's finally coming together. Looking forward to solving a few annoying puzzles and printing some test parts soon!

-Dana
 
Cool. Thanks for that. That certainly looks like what they used.

I asked previously about the rods on the T1 hands... anyone know where to get info on them? Adam Savage stated in the Tested Propstore video that they were RC Plane parts.

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Crazy timing too that you posted that question as I'm almost done modeling my take on the T1 feet... and I'm literally about to start on those parts right now. Crazy! Here's a peek at where I'm at (still a work in progress):
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I think it's finally coming together. Looking forward to solving a few annoying puzzles and printing some test parts soon!

-Dana
How did you angle things so that the top pistons are placed wider than the bottom pistons?
 
Cool. Thanks for that. That certainly looks like what they used.

I asked previously about the rods on the T1 hands... anyone know where to get info on them? Adam Savage stated in the Tested Propstore video that they were RC Plane parts.

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I don't know that he meant those piston parts specifically, and if he did mean those, I think he's mistaken. They are all different lengths and I believe they were machined out of aluminum on the hero hands. Also, I don't believe that is a screen used T1 hand either. So much of the hardware and rigging doesn't match and I've never seen any of the "tells" from this hand in a frame of the film. My personal opinion is that this is NOT a screen used artifact.

EDIT: If it was used in the film, the only scene I could imagine it being used would be in the explosion. Seems some castings were made of the endo using different materials for the blast. I just don't see a complex articulated version being made for that shot.

-Dana
 
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Yeah, the movie ones had the thin palm piece.

The "piston" pieces are also on T2 hands. But I am not sure if T2 also started using the ones seen on the LFS kit - simplified versions with the grooves at the ends sanded down. I was planning on adding the grooves back in on the models I made from the LFS ones.
 
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