kristen jones
Master Member
Kristen, your picture compilation IMO underlines what I wrote. Show the compilation to anybody off the street and you will get a "she wears essentially (!) the same outfit..."
VADER can wear the same outfit, because he is above all of the other characters, he is the MAIN villain. He is actually superhuman. The look defines Vader, the costume oozes out what Vader was meant to represent. One reason why he is one of the all-time greatest costume designs.
Rey is the MAIN protagonist. So your theory applies here, as well... they dress her similarly because she is the Herione, and they want her to be easily recognizable. If it works for Vader, why not for Rey, hmm?
Also, i think you completely missed my point about why costumes are designed the way they are for main characters. They speak to us, and tell us who the character is. Their "look" is established in the beginning, and as their character develops, there are changes made to show us who they are becoming. In the case of Vader, he is the same twisted, black, evil inside person from ANH until the tail end of ROTJ...so his costume shows no (easily discernible to the average person) changes because as a character he does not change at all until the last minute.. where a costume change isn't really possible to reflect his change of heart, apart from the removal of his helmet.
With Rey, she is essentially a good, light-oriented person in the beginning, and her light clothes reflect not only her desert home, but also her light inner self..much as Luke's farm boy outfit does. As she moves onto discover The Force, her outfit gradually changes to darker tones as she discovers a part of herself she had been unaware of previously...her call from the dark side. This too paralells Luke's costume changes from white, to Beige, to Black. Rey goes from beige to grey to dark brown. There is a pojt to be made with Han Solo as well.. more in that in a second.
Yay, it´s Rey.
Yay, it's Han. What's the difference?
Seriously... you can't tell me THIS isn't "essentially the same costume every outing". because it is.
What have I left out? The Hoth outfit, and the Endor duster. OK... the duster added to the ROTJ costume is the same as rey adding her goggles and headwrap to the Jakku costume.. so that's a wash. And for the Hoth parka outfit, Han was on Hoth for (who knows how long) and had access to cold weather gear to change into. Rey was taken CAPTIVE by Kylo Ren in Takkodanna wearing her original jakku outfit, and was taken directly to starkiller base--UNCONSCIOUS--and placed in restraints. She escaped on her own and was searching for a way to leave the base when she ran into Finn and Han. Where in there was she supposed to find a costume to change into, exactly? When she was evading Stormtroopers in the halls? when she was climbing through electrical conduits looking for a hiding place? Hmm?? Are you seriously telling me that if she HAD changed into a nice toasty warm winter outfit right then it would have made sense in the context of the film? really? She really had no idea what the weather outside was like on the base until she went out there with Finn. While this was cut from the theatrical release, there is a scene shown on the Blu Ray of Finn and Rey running from Snow Troopers on a speeder (it's how they get to the place where Han dies) and in it we see that Finn gave Rey his coat to help keep her warm.
In any case, she had no time or awareness of the surroundings to change her costume, and changing it at that point doesn't tell us anything about her changing character, so there's no call for it.
Similarly in TLJ, she is on Ach-To, and is wearing what she wore there.. because she didn't bring a bunch of outfits with her on her important pilgrimage.. because that wasn't important to the story. She changes clothes when she goes to confront Kylo because presumably the writers wanted to show us that Rey was beginning to accept that she had the "heart of a True Jedi"--as Snoke later tells her-- and they wanted to reflect that in her wardrobe.
It is my personal focus on costumes that left me a very bored Star Wars fan
I think we're hitting on the real reason you're so against it. And that's fine... not everybody likes everything, and that's OK. BUT... you stated it was essentially the same all the way through, i pointed out that it isn't, and you don't want to be wrong.
Anybody looking at both my Rey collage and my Han collage can see there is as much or more variation in Rey's outfit as in Han's... unless you just don't *want* to acknowledge it. And nobody--including you--is bemoaning the fact that Han wore "essentially the same thing every outing". It's his "look"... it's who he is.
Most men wear 'essentially the same thing" every day of their lives: a shirt, pants, shoes. I doubt your various pairs of jeans look so different as to be easily distunguished by the average passerby.
And my 6 year old can tell me what movie Rey was in based on her outfit. He can't tell me which version of Vader I'm showing him.
Her outfit worked for me on Jakku. It did work during the flight to Starkiller Station. It did not work for me on Starkiller Station.
First, we never saw her "flight to starkiller station". She was taken by Kylo from Takkodanna, and placed in confinement, as I said above. Surely you recall this.
Second, it absolutely works on starkiller station, for the very practical reason i stated above: she was taken hostage in that outfit, and imprisoned. She had NO CHOICE in her wardrobe. If she had some inkling while inside her cell that it was so frakkin cold outside--and IF she had been able to find cold weather gear while running for her life--I'm sure she would have availed herself of some such. but that was not in the story, so wishing for it is pointless, except to argue with me.
Seeing her in a darker version of her outfit with Luke did not work for me. And seeing her in that white outfit for Episode 9 does not work for me atm because I am pulled out of the SW universe because I ask myself "how the heck does she stay in contact with her tailor on Jakku?!" At least it confirms that she is not Leia´s daughter. Because Leia knew hot to dress for the occasion.
Well it's too bad that it didn't work for you...it worked for me. And it worked for alot of other people... because it did what it was SUPPOSED to do: it showed us that Rey has changed from a lonely scavenger on Jakku, just surviving while waiting for her parents to rescue her, to embracing The Living Force within her,and moving toward her emerging destiny as a true jedi. If you didn't get that, then i'm sad for you... but alot of us did.
I will admit that at this point the one VERY BLURRY pic we have seen of ONE of her Ep. 9 outfits doesn't thrill me, either. BUT... I felt the same about the end-of-TLJ outfit too, when i first saw it leaked. I changed my mind after seeing the film ,seeing it in context, etc... it grew on me; it won me over.
I have learned since not to make my first impressions of leaked things my religion. I've learned to wait, and to see.
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