annanake
Sr Member
No its not its called money, power and influence.
It took a small child to tell the Emperor that he had no clothes on !
And to beg for his daddy to save him !
Lol
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Post-release)
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No its not its called money, power and influence.
It took a small child to tell the Emperor that he had no clothes on !
And to beg for his daddy to save him !
Lol
Greenie
Sr Member
Because JJ wanted Luke Skywalker, Jedi knight in this trilogy but RJ chose to use Jake Skywalker instead.
When Rey arrived he immediately changed his outfit then change back soon as she left. It was very odd!
But then how do you square the circle in that Rian finished his script before TFA wrapped and JJ read it and by all accounts loved it? If he had envisioned a different version of Luke I would think his reaction would be different, no?
OK, hold on a sec. You’re going to have to show me some reputable source that can verify that’s how it went down because I was up to my neck in TFA Spoiler news about how the story came together and never heard anything like that.
It's mentioned in one of Mark Hamill's interviews. He said that TFA was going to end with Rey finding him levitating rocks all around him but then the call came in that it had been scrapped due to the conflict with TLJ's script. Then he reads TLJ and saw that they gave it to Rey at the end instead.
laszlo
Sr Member
Yeah that was very very odd. "Tonight Matthew I'm going to be........a badly written grump!"
I've heard about the levitating rocks too - was definitely on the cards for a possible ending.
They are making it up very badly as they go along.
Greenie
Sr Member
As mentioned above ^^. There is a interview clip of Mark and Daisy discussing it. Mark says that it was guiding his process as an actor but then the TLJ script was [ Phoned in ] and it was scrapped.
I cant ant find the clip on YT but there's several vids discussing the 'revelation'
OK, but I'm still not clear why JJ would have been against what Rian wrote when he seemed very enthusiastic about it. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying.
Greenie
Sr Member
Yeah. I imagine when he's alone he struts around the island playing Jedi (like us saber builders) but someone showed up so he canned the cosplay.
annanake
Sr Member
Why?
the article was about paid professional critics loving TLJ while less than half of the public holds it in such high regard.
I use the fable about the emperor's new
clothes .... The child represents the public ....us.
The dude snowing the emperor is represented by the critics.
And of course Luke "defeated" the emperor by begging daddy to save him !
Also It is great stuff !
I only defile myself with the best Sterno around !
Ever since Andromeda strain I've been inoculating my self !
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Greenie
Sr Member
Im not saying JJ was against it but he did dress Luke like a Jedi master. Also, his enthusiasm for RJ's story was just hearsay, via Greg Grunberg who, incidentally, was absent from TLJ(?)
Oh, I wasn't taking issue with what you posted regarding that link. I didnt even read it. Not important to me. Its more your posting style I find enjoyable.
Noeland
Master Member
Even if JJ hated Rian's script, or parts of the script, he would never say that publicly. Ever. Mark Hamill would though, and he freaking did every chance he got, for a little while.
I think they really missed an opportunity to do something special, exciting, and enormously cool with Luke, in favor of making him a grumpy old fisherman who drinks from space manatee udders while making faces at young girls and telling them to get off his lawn so he can die.
It was just so strange.
For as long as I live I will never understand the creative choices made with Luke. Not ever.
I think they really missed an opportunity to do something special, exciting, and enormously cool with Luke, in favor of making him a grumpy old fisherman who drinks from space manatee udders while making faces at young girls and telling them to get off his lawn so he can die.
It was just so strange.
For as long as I live I will never understand the creative choices made with Luke. Not ever.
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DarthLee
Sr Member
Not only was it scrapped, but it was mocked with "its not about lifting rocks"
So, the fact that Rey did it. Then, is it about lifting rocks? Im so confused,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aiDU-E5H-U
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Not confusing for me. They are only looking at a certain set of numbers (critics 90%). If they factored in the 'Audience Score' (48% liked it), it would be at 64%.
The other thing is a good movie can be a financial loss (BR 2049) but loved by critics AND audience. If you mash up both of those scores on RT its like an 83%. Then you have TLJ that is on track for $1.3 Billion but a big 'meh' by audiences after they actually see it.
If a movie is good, it will stick with me for a couple of days or longer. TLJ was a one and done thing.
As it was with me.
I predict TLJ will have as much if not more buyers remorse in a few years than the prequels.
History will not look kindly on it nor should it
I predict TLJ will have as much if not more buyers remorse in a few years than the prequels.
History will not look kindly on it nor should it
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