Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Post-release)

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What did you think of Star Wars: The Last Jedi?

  1. It was great. Loved it. Don't miss it at the theaters.

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  2. It was good. Liked it very much. Worth the theater visit.

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  3. It was okay. Not too pleased with it. Could watch it at the cinema once or wait for home video.

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  4. It was disappointing. Watch it on home video instead.

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  5. It was bad. Don't waste your time with it.

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  1. dbuck

    dbuck Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    My attempt at a non-spoilery review:

    Caveat: The sound in the premiere was terrible, which is par for the course. There was definitely dialogue I missed, I need a second viewing to see if it helps me understand certain scenes better. (Rogue One was like that, after the premiere my wife and I turned to each other and went 'meh'. After we saw it again a week later we turned to each other and said, 'that was much better'.) It seemed like the center channel took a crap during the film. I could really hear the right rear channel well thanks to my seat, though. :)

    Comparison to TFA. Well, that movie was a reintroduction to the Star Wars universe and some loved it and some didn't. I enjoyed TFA more than I thought I would. This movie continues TFA obviously, but also pivots. It's darker and defines the trilogy as the Rey story. The prequels are obviously Anakin/Darth and the OT Luke. It's kind of the Empire version, but also not. If you expect any loose ends tied up you really won't get any of substance, to me it actually creates more questions. There is someone who answers the question of Rey's parentage, but I believe this a lie.

    My favorite part: The opening space battle. And the last fifteen minutes. There is a lot of info in this movie, it's hard to process immediately, Rian did say you need to see it more than once and he was right. Yet I still feel I could have taken out about ten minutes total in various places in the middle and helped it. I do that with most movies, however.

    My least favorite part: Two characters head off on a mission to find someone, traveling to a planet whose name I cannot remember. This was my biggest problem with the movie so far. The whole time they are there it just screams PREQUEL, especially their escape. Way too much bad CGI. Could easily have been shortened.

    Humor. Perhaps a bit too much, some of it works well, some.....meh. But it is a movie in which a TON of people die and the mood needs lightening once in a while. Much discussion will be over the amount and type of humor.

    Porgs: The subject of a fair bit of humor, but they aren't everywhere. Well, kind of in a funny way they might be, but they are in this less than I expected thanks to the toy market. There is one scene that the reaction to will be very divided.

    Leia: Strong performance, especially after TFA. There is a late scene in this movie that may very well induce crying from some fans. I sat next to someone who did cry, but she told me she would in regards to any scene with Carrie.

    Luke: Not the Luke we may want, but there is some good stuff here. Luke wil be the focus of much discussion.

    Kylo: Great performance by Driver, especially later in the film. I'm not really a fan of his, btw. Even in person he seems very aloof and a bit cold, perhaps shyness in regards to dealing with fans.

    Poe: Some questionable actions after the opening, I think the movie missed something between him and Laura Dern's character Holdo until the very end, that may have been me missing some dialogue, a re-watch is necessary to see if this opinion remains.

    BB-8: Not in this movie as much, but when he is it shines.

    R2 and C3PO: Not much with these two. R2 does have a nice scene with Luke.

    Chewbacca: Finally hugs Leia. A couple of nice scenes.

    Finn: Gets some good scenes.

    Rose: She was okay as a character, probably a bit of her stuff on the editing room floor.

    Phasma: The Boba Fett of the new trilogy.

    Snoke: Essentially Palpatine with a different face.

    Maz: A bit scene. Feels like a toss-in just to get her in the movie.

    Benicio Del Toro: (I think he was DJ) Mysterious, like he usually plays. Not really sure about him, hope he comes back for more.

    Cameos: I'm pretty sure I saw the Will and Harry scene, saw Gareth Edwards in a trench, never saw or heard Tom Hardy or anybody else. I was focusing on the movie.

    Rey: Now officially the focus of the trilogy, but all the payoff will be in the next movie.

    Overall: Enjoyed this quite a bit, I do have some issues like I did with TFA, but overall I think this will be well received by most people, especially the general moviegoer. I really do need to see this again, perhaps my opinion will change for the positive or negative, perhaps some huge plot holes will be more or less appparent with a repeat viewing, I don't know. I'll know Thursday when the wife and I see it. She knows nothing about this movie and I'm not spoiling it for her, and I really, really want to know how she reacts to it.

    There were quite a few moments that were really awesome, and a few groans here and there. I found myself smiling quite a bit in a giddy kind of way, and a few moments where I was wondering why they did what they did. I can't wait for all the discussion. TFA haters will most likely still hate it, but it will also become a top three or four SW film for many. I'm still debating. Definitely entertaining, and going in spoiler free is the best way.

    It also passed the pee test, as in there was no way I was going to take a pee break. :)


    Edit after second viewing: I did post this later in the thread, but I enjoyed this movie much more the second time around. Still not perfect or anything, but much better.
     
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  2. Bryancd

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    Re: The Last Jedi (post release) reviews and discussion

    I wish the mods would pin this to the top and dump that Spoiler thread POS.
     
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  3. blakeh1

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    Re: The Last Jedi (post release) reviews and discussion

    Thanks for the level-headed review

    It sounds like most casual viewers will probably enjoy it, while the same groups who hate the TFA will find plenty to hate with this

    I'll go into it with an open mind
     
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  4. Djinn

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    Re: The Last Jedi (post release) reviews and discussion

    I imagine this will work out like the last one, people genuinely loved TFA for the first three or so months until it became cool to complain about it as much as possible. The memes will flow regardless. But the amusing part is always how the people who complain, still went to see it more than once and likely own a copy of the movie. So they can't hate it that much.

    Hey that thread has brought a lot of new traffic to....that thread.... Even though majority of the questions seem to be questions for a visual dictionary and not a movie viewer.
     
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  5. Vivek

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    That thread was pinned temporarily. We were going to create a separate thread for the post-release discussion. Anyways, this will remain the main discussion thread from now on. We'll be just making some additions to this in the meantime.

    FYI: I loathe that spoilers thread.
     
  6. Bryancd

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    Thank you. :)

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    The reviews are ramping up my excitement even though I know what happens!
     
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  7. Jaitea

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    What about DJ's (Del Toro) ship......early rumours were it was an up to date Falcon=like ship?

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  8. blakeh1

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    Re: The Last Jedi (post release) reviews and discussion

    For me it wasn't so much that it became cool to complain about it

    I think it was more that The Force Awakens was a great breath of fresh air at first..

    The first few times seeing it there is a lot of nostalgia brought back which let many people view it with rose colored glasses

    However after time goes by that nostalgia no longer has the same effect and you start to wish maybe it hadn't mirrored the original trilogy so much.

    It just is not as satisfying as it was when it was new.

    I loved it when I first saw it. Later on, I don't dislike it, but I don't rank it as highly anymore

    I guess in a weird way, it's like the fast food of movies. It was great tasting going down, especially when you are hungry, but then you wind up with small case of heartburn or the runs later after you digest it

    All in all though, I think it was a good launching point for the new trilogy. I thought it did a great job of introducing new characters and getting me interested in them
     
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  11. RedVader1978

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    What I guess most people are wondering was Pawn right somewhat without giving too much away and do people awe him an apology. I want Pawn to be right simply because so many Youtube people have gotten things wrong and were so sure things would happen certain ways. I want people to like this movie and so some people can put away there rudeness about Pawns reveal and except the movie is what it is.
     
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  12. dbuck

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    Ben lied to Luke
    Leia kisses Luke AND Han
    Han knows how to use a lightsaber
    Darth cuts off Luke’s hand and calls him son.

    Sounds like crap to me. But in context.....

    You’re most likely one of those Reddit guys who signed up just for the Pawn spoilers. Believe him or don’t.
     
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    The Last Jedi (post release) reviews and discussion

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  14. JediG60racer

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    My thoughts, copied from my blog:

    9 Things You Need To Know About The Last Jedi

    A No Spoiler Review by Brendan Prout

    Currently I'm in a small group of fans that has had the opportunity to see it twice before it's even been released to the public, so let me share a few things you need to know:

    1) You need to see it in the theater. Seriously. This is exactly the sort of movie whose cinematography, sound design, action, and visual chemistry absolutely require you to see it on the big screen. Probably multiple times, because the first time you see it you may not be able to hear all the lines of dialogue in the movie due to the screaming, laughing, and overall passionate reaction of your fellow fans in the audience with you. And that excitement and energy will make it all the more enjoyable.

    2) It has all the feels.
    Tears, cheers, joy, and many more laughs than any Star Wars movie before. The humor sprinkled throughout is delivered in such a wide variety of fashions, it appeals to many different personality types. Fortunately lacking in lowbrow slapstick humor in favor of smartly written and acted scenes, though there are a few moments in there that will make your inner five-year-old laugh as you groan and roll your eyes. If you have an actual five-year-old with you, they will be cracking up.

    3) You will need to go to the bathroom before seeing this movie. It is long. Seriously long. But you will not want to miss a moment.

    4) Right from the get go, the action starts heavy, with the pacing dynamics and segues between scenes masterfully delivered. Right up to the closing scene, this movie will have you captured.

    5) Many many nods to previous films, tropes long established in this galaxy far, far away, will make long time fans very happy.

    6) Many Porg scenes.
    I thought I was going to hate the Porgs. Now I think I need to head over to ThinkGeek.com and buy one of those suction cup versions for my car window.

    7) The movie touches on some very important life themes without being heavy-handed or awkward about them. I took my family to see the film yesterday, and we had some vibrant conversations about these themes on our long drive home. Good conversation seeds!

    8) It's pretty clean.
    As with most Star Wars movies, there is some mature innuendo in a few spots of dialogue, but it will go far over the heads of little ones. There is a lot of fighting & fantasy violence (explosions, space battles, hand to hand fights, typical Star Wars fare) but there is no guts & gore.

    9) The feels don't end with the final scene. Stay through the credits as there is at least one more element in there to tug on your heart strings.

    #starwars #thelastjedi #moviereview #spoilerfree
    #maytheforcebewithyoualways
     
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    Hi everyone, I'm in France so I was lucky to watch this movie today.

    I will not add spoilers because I know a lot of people really want tot discover this movie.

    I must say this is really well made and and It's an excellent transition.

    Rian Johnson did something really great overall.

    Some of the fans might be disappointed by some details but we really need to accept that...

    I enjoyed episode 7 even If I was disppointed by some parts but I now I really prefer this new episode 8.

    When It was finished, I had so many images in my mind, I just wanted to know what would be in the episode 9, I really hope JJ Abrams will have Rian Johnson next to him for some advices...

    Fans have to understand that there's will be nothing like the original trilogy because It was another time, and we had other feelings...
    But If you love Star Wars I'm sure many of you will enjoy it a lot

    MTFBWU
     
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  18. kalkamel

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    Just came out of the theater. First thought: what the **** did I just watch??
     
  19. Apollo

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    My thoughts exactly! :thumbsup

    Came as no surprise though :unsure



     
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  20. kalkamel

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    Well I WAS surprised. I had high hopes for this film and in Rian Johnson as its director, but what I ended up watching was an utter disappointment. Most of the humor was out of place and felt forced (some even felt like they were more suited to Spaceballs), so many plot holes from TFA unresolved, ludicrous scenes, scenes that don't add to the narrative, bad CGI... you name it, its there. One scene was so LOTR-esque I thought Elves were gonna turn up to save the day. And the whole movie felt too long and draggy at several points.

    To make matters worse, we have the young Han Solo movie lined up next...
     
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    My GOD that sucked. Epically.
     
  23. robertsonick

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    Yeah okay, I posted in the pre-release forum but I just saw this thread.
    There are going to be a LOT of heated discussions about this.
    I’m still thinking it all through but I left disappointed.

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  24. RedVader1978

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    The Movies are aimed for people who more so were not a fan of the movies but first saw star wars when Force Awakens came out or the casual movie fan. Classic fans will likely not like it and and those same classic fans who destroyed george lucas for the Prequels will miss him and cause disney head aches calling for George to come back creatively.
     
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  25. Jedi-72

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    There is no excusing away a *. If you have to make excuses, it's not a good movie. A good movie appeals to everybody. Good is good. Crap is crap. Take a fresh *, put it on an "artisan" roll with "hand cut" gourmet fries served on the finest China, and its still a *. You can't excuse it.
     
  26. Mystery

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    Just came back, and gotta say I really really enjoyed it. Is it perfect? no definitelly not, there is one whole subplot with some characters that was so unnecessary, did not enjoy that. However the rest of the movie was fantastic, where the characters progressed to was greatly satifying to me, and there is one scene trully visually incredible, you will know which one Im talking about once you see the movie.
     
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  27. ower

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    I figured it was just aimed more at people who were introduced to Star Wars through the Prequels, which I'd argue GL took what he was trying to do with ROTJ and ratcheting it up, which then when the Mouse took over, doubled down on and locked into full steam ahead.

    It would make sense, Those who grew up with the OT got their first taste of Disappointment with the Special Editions and the constant edits and then TPM and the rest of the Prequels. Now granted over time many may have soften and don't despise them as they once did. People who were young or got introduced to SW through the prequels love it or at least don't have the same sort of disdain . Also unlike the OT people, didn't have to wait nearly as long for a follow up and when they got it, they didn't get a TPM, they got a re-hashed ANH peppered with a combo of OT and Jar Jar esque type of humor.

    I can see OT people being saltier.. They waited , what.. 15 years for a follow up while getting remastered and special of editions of what GL intended vision was suppose to be only to get another version because this time it's really what his vision was to finally wait until midnight of 1999 and get shafted with a movie with the Force being reduced to midichlorians, trade negotiation and whining about Sand, waited another 11 with hopes to finally get a true heir and follow up to end up with a very play it safe, sanitized version of a movie they've already been watching for nearly 40 years that's so heavy on the Yuk Yuks you expect someone to do the whole "look into the camera like I'm on the office".
     
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  28. mattycsi

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    Just got back from the midnight show.

    Hated it, completely.

    I loved Force Awakens and R1, but this barely felt like Star Wars. Way too much humour and nearly always the humour was in the wrong places.

    I nearly walked out a couple of times, but just so wanted it to get better, and it never did.

    Literally had no saving graces. All the set ups from TFA were totally squandered. I doubt I could ever sit through this again.
     
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  29. Tuckanator

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    Plain and simple, this movie was just a mess. The first joke between Poe and Hux really just set the standard of the entire movie. If your aged 12yrs and under you will like it but the entire slog was pretty cringe worthy to say the least. The humour (if u even want to call it that) was just dreadfully not funny and used far too much. Why does Star Wars all of a sudden need jokes anyway???. The story was just riddled with flaws beyond belief and was just simply boring. Leia floating back into the ship was just.......wow.....(in a bad way). The first order pretty much went full retard in this one aswell.

    Its hard to find a reason to go see it again and i was coming into this one pretty excited. Where the story goes from here I have no idea and there wasnt really any incentive to look forward to part 3. To me TFA was a decent reboot, not that i or anyone was asking for or wanted a reboot but it was ok to watch but this felt like a bigger let down than that one was. Is it really that hard to write a decent star wars movie? It doesnt need rubbish humour and ridiculous force abilities.

    Id definitely recommend everyone see this movie so that there might be a chance of backlash and rian johnson being sacked from his next triligy. TFA was dissapointing for not being original but this one really took star wars as a whole down coocoo land (IMO of course)
     
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  30. RedVader1978

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    My Point is Disney and Kennedy Have done there best to make Star Wars theres that they really dont have a set plan for this new saga and George good or bad had a plan and Id liked it if Disney could have maybe well let George Consult on the series or even help create a 3 story idea with JJ and Johnson the directors. But No we get what Disney wants this new saga too be. Now I have not seen the film but i always had my concerns going in. i Had no major issues with Force Awakens but Rogue One was better. Last Jedi is the longest movie of them and i feel sad knowing what i know but again what no on paper can be very different on a live screen
     
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  31. Reelo

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    Seen it last night. What a ride. Let's just say this: it is a VERY diffeeent beast than the OT, or the PT, or even TFA. I liked the movie overall, but there are a few creative choices that I do not agree with. (Leia Poppins)

    Also, the phrase "Your Sknoke theory sucks" has never been more correct. :) I kinda like what happened, but I'm also quite eager to see how JJ will resolve all this in the last Episode of the trilogy. I think unlike for TLJ, there needs to be a certain amount of in-universe time to pass before Episode IX. Let Kylo grow, let Rey grow. Let Leia find a fitting end off-screen (there is no other way) and Poe take over the Resistance/Rebellion(?)

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  32. gizmo

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    Seen it and for the most part really enjoyed it. So did my son. A fantastic ride.

    Theres some real WTF moments in there though. Namely the Leia traversing space with the force part and BB-8 slapstick parts. I wouldn't have chosen Luke to be the failed Jedi either but I did enjoy him most of the time.

    Porgs ended up being more fun than I thought they would.

    I think people need to be realistic. The OT is never coming back. I hold those movies very dearly to my heart. It's just as much about the time and the place with those movies too. They can never be matched and I'm realistic and enjoy these new films for what they are, a fun ride. Things have changed. :)

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  33. Bryancd

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    Now at 95% on RT with 201 reviews, only 11 fall into the Rotten category. If it holds that it will be 1% higher then ESB.
     
  34. Reelo

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    Wise words.
    Yeah, Leia's "Mary Poppins" scene was a bit cringeworthy. I liked BB8's slapstick. It's tongue in cheek but it works.
    Luke's story, surprisingly, does work, in the end. A lot of people would have wished for a different fate, but now the slate's clean for the next generation.

    The OT, while groundbreakingly new at that time, are very much a product of their era, in hindsight. As you pointed out, that time's not coming back. Never. Even the PT starts to look dated. Let the ST be its own thing. After JJ's pandering to nostalgia, I like this new, fresh take which, while being different than anything before, is still firmly rooted in SW mythology. Someone mentioned the Mortis- and Yoda-arcs from TCW. Mystical stuff. It works.
    I've just identified one major flaw in my book: the movie is too human-centric. Where are the Twilek, the Rodians, the Gand, the Togruta? Other than Nien Nunb, Ello Atsy and Adm. Ackbar (RIP) the only aliens we see are on Canto Bight, and they're all just background noise.

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    Redacted and retracted.
     
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  36. RedVader1978

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    Can someone PM message me who has seen this movie what if any Role Yoda has in this movie because have heard two versions.
     
  37. Reelo

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    You have a PM.

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  38. RedVader1978

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    I think we have just started seeing the powers of the force and I think we will get things where a Force Ghost can do things its just Obi Wan chose not to appear because it was Lukes jedi test against Vader both times. I would really like too see since Carrie Fisher is gone that Anakin appears as a Ghost and Fights Kylo Ren when he has Beaten Rey. I think it needs too be His idol that beats Kylo and thus defeats the dark side.
     
  39. spacebob

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    I know the whole point of this film is life goes on, ends and beginnings.
    But I feel like Star Wars died today.

    The film worked for me and I thought it was good, it just seems like everyone I care about is dying.
    Real people, made up people, good people.
    Its my age I suppose.
     
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  40. Chicagovader

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    Rotten Tomatoes is no indication anything....hell the CNN review is negative and RT puts it in the positive category.
     
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  41. RedVader1978

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    I think there should be an Episode 10 , 11 and 12 but let some years pass and we get a New Saga where the Jedi do return because its what fans want too see happen. I think you can have a story where Rey has a family and has students. Then we Have Ben Alone in the world but he is more in the Grey Area and we could get a new Threat The Sith return or another Universe of pure evil invade the Star Wars Known Universe.
     
  42. gedmac66

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    Hey Bryancd , apologies in advance if this has been explained before , but was RT ( Rotten Tomatoes ? ) scoring system around when ESB came out ?

    Ged
     
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  43. DarthLee

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    Hi all.

    I have read through alot of threads here, decided to join up.

    As a huge Sci-Fi fan, as I see most of you are,

    Ive read through many disappointments about this movie.

    I have one word for everyone.

    Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, Toy Story, The Jungle Book, Frozen. The Force Awakens.

    Well that was abit more than one word, But I think you all get the idea.
     
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  44. Bryancd

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    No but their methodology of aggragating reviews to a binary positive or negative can be applied to reviews of older films.

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    Not really...
     
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  45. anj4de

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    Hi

    Saw it last night...am still a bit in the phase of letting it sink in...
    My opinion so far...it was way better then TFA but not as good as R1, which I regard as the No.2 movie behind ESB now! For an old timer like me, I saw "Star Wars" in the movies before it even became ANH, it was another "say good by" movie in a way I do not like. All "my" heros seem to die fast now without getting a final show down as a team! That sucks!!!
    I did very much like the new sets, the casino town, Dubrovnik, was really cool! Finally space battles again...and good ones :) . Since IX will be a JJ movie again I think that was it for the original canon. Couple of interesting new props on the helmet front (Hasbro, do you read?). The closing szene with the boy and the broom I liked a lot! Let's just hope they pick up from there.
    I will probaly watch it again over the weekend, have to find a theater though that shows 2D and the English version. I hope the humor szenes are better in English then in German. All in all a good movie...but now back to Harmy’s Star Wars Trilogy Despecialized Editions! Still my favourite SW versions...can you tell I am getting old?

    cheers
    Uwe

    PS: Have to get such a ring ;-) ...I hope the prop industry reads that!
     
  46. gedmac66

    gedmac66 Sr Member

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    LOL ! That’s quite an explanation . In that case , how did the Original ‘ STAR WARS ‘ - aka ANH rate ?

    :cheersGed
     
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  47. DarthLee

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    My point being,

    They were all great movies, fun to watch and very entertaining. Deep story lines? No. Wow factor? No. Intellectual dialog? No.

    TFA was a disappointment, It was the first SW movie, I actually went "HUH??" (well other then the Tarzan voice wookie did in the Battle of Kashyyk on ROTS).

    But I know Disney, so it was accepted, and watchable.

    Im happy someone decided to continue SW, but its not a Lucas film. So dont expect that.
     
  48. Bryancd

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    93%....

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    LOL! With the exception of the Wow factor I’m not sure those criteria apply to any Star Wars film. They are popcorn films, not Citizen Kane.
     
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    Maybe they will make episode VIII.5.:behave Cause they will have to cram alot of info in the last.

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    Not true. Fans do not fall in love with characters from a popcorn movie. Star Wars, Character and story depth.

    I never eat popcorn while watching SW ;)
     
  50. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    George did consult with them and they thanked him and went their own way.


     
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