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The REAL question is: which Star Wars costume am I going to wear to the midnight viewing?

Star Wars premiered in 1977, Episode 7 in 2015- almost 40 years later.

So if you go dressed as Luke or Han, kids and teenagers will ask 'Who are you supposed to be?'.
 
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There is a Jar-Jar Binks in my local "base" of the Rebel Legion - one of only two approved costumes worldwide - and believe it or not, but that has become quite a crowd-pleaser.
 
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Say what you want about Jar Jar, I still prefer him over Doctor Newton Geiszler.
 
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I would challenge anyone to watch the latest trailer for Maleficent and tell me Disney can't or is unwilling to do a more adult fantasy film.
 
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I would challenge anyone to watch the latest trailer for Maleficent and tell me Disney can't or is unwilling to do a more adult fantasy film.

Oh, I think they've proven quite willing to do somewhat more adult-oriented material. Once Upon a Time has been good for that, and plenty of the Pixar material is directed at parents, rather than kids (helping to explain their success).

I think the real question is whether Disney views THIS franchise as warranting that kind of treatment. I'd hope it does because, in my opinion, Star Wars works best when it doesn't target the kiddies, and instead just tells a grand story. It doesn't have to be all "dark" and such, either. It can just be a rollicking good adventure.

Basically, more Eps IV and V, and less Eps. I and VI. II and III are odd beasts, in that they don't seem quite able to grasp their own identity, and I think that III actually even goes a little too dark (albeit, necessarily so, given the subject matter).
 
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Having been almost 9 when ANH came out this informs my view, I agree SW was targeted to pre-teen/teens as opposed to adolescents for sure. Based on what little the new production team has said, they seem to be of a similar mindset. The constant "Disney is going to turn SW into a kiddie show" has no basis.
 
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I actually think, and having been almost 9 when ANH came out this informs my view, but I agree SW was targeted to pre-teen/teens as opposed to adolescents for sure. Based on what little the new production team has said, they seem to be of a similar mindset. The constant "Disney is going to turn SW into a kiddie show have no basis.

I'd agree, but look at how kids were targeted now compared to how kids were targeted then? Kids movies and TV shows now are just an advanced form of ADD medication. Everything that comes out is like a combination of techno raves and Teletubbies. They do not trigger any sort of stimulation other than the part of the brain that registers bright flashing lights and siren noises. It's ok to be a little intellectual... even with kids.
 
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I'd agree, but look at how kids were targeted now compared to how kids were targeted then? Kids movies and TV shows now are just an advanced form of ADD medication. Everything that comes out is like a combination of techno raves and Teletubbies. They do not trigger any sort of stimulation other than the part of the brain that registers bright flashing lights and siren noises. It's ok to be a little intellectual... even with kids.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that, I do challenge the assumption/assertion that it is almost a forgone conclusion that SW will be made in that mold simply because it's owned by Disney.
 
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Yeah, I don't disagree with that, I do challenge the assumption/assertion that it is almost a forgone conclusion that SW will be made in that mold simply because it's owned by Disney.

Then we're totally on the same page.
 
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I'd agree, but look at how kids were targeted now compared to how kids were targeted then? Kids movies and TV shows now are just an advanced form of ADD medication. Everything that comes out is like a combination of techno raves and Teletubbies. They do not trigger any sort of stimulation other than the part of the brain that registers bright flashing lights and siren noises. It's ok to be a little intellectual... even with kids.

If we're talking TV shows I'd have to disagree, certainly at least as far as the 80s go, back then a lot of kid's shows were nothing really more than 30 minute commercials for a toy line like GI Joe, Transformers, and the like. Now a days most kids' shows are no longer toy commercials with a plot but that's not saying they're all that intellectual either but saying that kids' shows from years gone by were better then than now is a bit of stretch. Kids' shows have never really been all that intellectual in any period, and there are probably more educational programs aimed at kids now than in years past but they're just not that mainstream and they tend to only aim towards a very young age.
 
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If we're talking TV shows I'd have to disagree, certainly at least as far as the 80s go, back then a lot of kid's shows were nothing really more than 30 minute commercials for a toy line like GI Joe, Transformers, and the like. Now a days most kids' shows are no longer toy commercials with a plot but that's not saying they're all that intellectual either but saying that kids' shows from years gone by were better then than now is a bit of stretch. Kids' shows have never really been all that intellectual in any period, and there are probably more educational programs aimed at kids now than in years past but they're just not that mainstream and they tend to only aim towards a very young age.

There was never really a good time for kids' TV shows, it's been the same since the dawn of time till now. You nailed the description on the head.
Obviously there are shining exceptions like Sesame Street for example, and even some really creative and artistic storytelling like some of the old Nicktoons programs (the first few seasons of Spongebob are brilliant), but for the most part you are correct that it is mostly pointless stimulating filler and it has ALWAYS BEEN. No one can say tv shows were "better back then" because they weren't.

In my opinion.

Movies are a whole different animal.
 
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Yeah, I think he is fit enough that I would like to see him in more than just a cameo. I really hope he is not just stuck with a "post ANH Obi Wan" role. I think Luke could really function in the story, but I just don't see how Han and Leia could do much more cameos.
 
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