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Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Seems logical at some point Luke will talk to a "force ghost" , and that would most likely be Anakin or Obi Wan, sooo..... would they cast Hayden Christiansen or Ewan McGreggor for that?

That could bring on too many bad memories of the special editions and prequels.

Or maybe Luke dies early on and becomes a "force ghost" himself and talks to his pupil, but that seems too similar to the original.
 
Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Seems logical at some point Luke will talk to a "force ghost" , and that would most likely be Anakin or Obi Wan, sooo..... would they cast Hayden Christiansen or Ewan McGreggor for that?

That could bring on too many bad memories of the special editions and prequels.

Or maybe Luke dies early on and becomes a "force ghost" himself and talks to his pupil, but that seems too similar to the original.

In that case I hope it's Ewan/Obi-wan...

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Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Things I want in Episode VII:

Light saber battles
Hyperspace/lightspeed visual effects
Physical sets and makeup
Huge spaceships
John Williams music

Things I DO NOT want in Episode VII:

Midichlorians
Jar jar
Bad cgi
Pop culture references
Any music NOT by John Williams


List is a work in progress. More to come lol.

u forget in things want's to see, old holocam with noise transmition, old school, things no like to see: EWOKS no more teddy bears running free, BLAST THEM !:cheers.-

Now talking seriously, I have 43 years, I see all the movies, from 7 years old, and I really like to see more Star Wars, but Disney will have to work hard if they want to keep this incredible epic saga.
 
Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Very eloquently put Solo4114. This is EXACTLY how I feel about seeing the OT characters in the new movies. I just hope that if they do put the OT characters in, it doesn't end up as disappointing as Indy 4.

That's just it. I see nostalgia as a trap most of the time. You want to recapture a feeling that is basically impossible to recapture. You aren't the same you that you were when you first saw it. The world isn't the same world. The characters won't be the same characters.

Sticking older versions of the original characters into the film is going to have, in my opinion, the opposite effect of nostalgia: it will instead remind you of how much has changed, rather than preserving what came before. Best to let them always remain young heroes in your mind and on your screen.

Instead, I think that the GOAL of nostalgia -- to create the same FEELING you had before -- can be achieved better by using new characters, new actors, and telling a new story.

This is something that, I think, is actually counter-intuitive, so it doesn't surprise me that studios tend to default to "Remember that time that Han said 'I know' and Luke said 'I have a bad feeling about this' and there were TIE Fighters and X-wings and a wookie? That was cool." They do this by just trotting out the same stuff as before, making "in-joke" references back to the originals, etc. To me, this only highlights the differences between then and now. Seeing a grizzled old Harrison Ford phoning in Han Solo-isms won't return you to your childhood; it will remind you of how old you are.




Honestly, I don't think they even need that. You could just as easily push the story three generations into the future, safely removing everyone from anything approaching a DIRECT connection to the OT, while still maintaining the overall feel of the story. Maybe you have Luke appear as a Force ghost or on some Holocron recording, providing guidance generations later or something, but that's it. The continuity can be achieved with the universe and setting itself, and the concepts introduced. You don't need character continuity. What happened next is that everyone got old and died and some had kids, and those kids got old and died or died younger than they should have. That's what happened next. Tell a new story with new characters instead, I say. We can always do a DVD extra sequence like what happened on the Animal House Double Secret Probation DVD. :p



The more I think about it, the less I think it could be done WITHOUT being cheesy. Think about it. Luke's the only one with an absolutely clear and obvious path in the future -- he becomes a Jedi Master and instructs the next generation of Jedi. What about Leia? Does she have kids? Does she marry Han? Does she become president of the Restored Republic? Does she form a new royal dynasty on New Alderaan? And the more "grey" moral characters are even harder to deal with. Does Han settle down? Plenty of people think that's unrealistic and unappealing. But I think it's equally unrealistic and unappealing to see him tottering around the galaxy at age 70-something, still making his way as a smuggler. O h, wait. I get it. BEcause he's older now, he's more powerful and has become a smuggling crime lord. Or a shipping magnate. I mean, come on. Is THIS the Han Solo you really want to see? Not me. And Lando, too. What, he's now back to being an administrator? A general? Each of the characters would, in my mind, seem diminished from who they were in the OT if we were to show them now. In the OT they're legends. In the NT (I'm coining that now -- New Trilogy), they'd just be mortals. Do you really want to see Hercules get old and grey?



Low hanging fruit, man. ;)
 
Re: Star Wars Episode VII

Seems logical at some point Luke will talk to a "force ghost" , and that would most likely be Anakin or Obi Wan, sooo..... would they cast Hayden Christiansen or Ewan McGreggor for that?

That could bring on too many bad memories of the special editions and prequels.

Or maybe Luke dies early on and becomes a "force ghost" himself and talks to his pupil, but that seems too similar to the original.

I definitely don't want to see Hayden and honestly? I don't want to see Ewan either. Maybe if they HAD to have him talking to a Force Ghost it could be Yoda. But that's just the least of three evils.
 
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Lucasfilm President Talks China Deals, Earthquake Victims Donation

Looks like some ILM work is being outsourced....oh wait sorry..."partnered" with BaseFX.

Not really all that surprising given that few, if any, movies these days have their FX handled by just one shop. Your typical effects heavy action flick will often have at a half dozen effects houses working on it as the lead house(s) farm out work to other smaller houses. I wonder if ILM even did all of the effects work on the Prequels, they certainly would have been the lead house but I be even they had to farm out work to other houses as they probably wouldn't have had enough capacity to handle the Prequels as well as any other movies they may have been working on at the time. Besides, I really don't feel that ILM is the effects giant and industry leader that they once were, there are many effects shops out there that do as good or even better work than ILM does these days.
 
Re: Star Wars Episode VII

I'm sure this has been already talked about, but I don't have time to comb through the 100+ pages to find the answer. Who could possibly be the new villain or villains in this new trilogy? The sith were destroyed with the death of the emperor and Vader turning back to the light side and then dying....will there be a new order of sith or perhaps just dark jedi this time? Maybe just another kind of bad guy with no force ability but still use lightsabers? I wonder...
 
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII

If they really wanted to bring the Sith back it wouldn't be that hard and they can do it without making it be too hokey. E.G. some true believer finds a Sith holocron in some far off outer rim world.

Personally, I don't think it needs to be the Sith, and if they want to bring back the Sith, they should really only set it up in the first film. Have a non Sith main villain for episode 7 and establish a new Sith character as a subplot.
 
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It really could be anyone! There's a whole universe of bad guys out there. This is almost a clean slate and don't think they are too limited to their imagination in that department. I'm sure it will be awesome. I feel WAY better about this new one Abrams is working on over the alternative.
 
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