Star Wars: questions you've always wanted answers for

[augofett]

Two question, one OT and one PT:

Was really "The Emperor" a Sith Lord in the OT? I mean, we hear about the Dark Side of the Force, apprentices, Lords (Only Implied they were Dark by "Darth", if we asume it´s short for DAR_k Lord of the Si_TH, a title that is present on the novelization in 1976) He used the Dark Side of the Force, apparently had no Lightsaber, (and as he says it is "a Jedi´s Weapon"), so is he a Sith Lord?

In the prequels Dooku (a Sith Lord apprentice) wields the Force rays against YODA and has no phyisical alteration.
Palpatine casts his rays (he is THE Sith Lord) against Windu (He is NOT Yoda...) and ends like we all know What happened there?

 

[Riceball]

Mark Hamill has said a number of times that George Lucas told him he had to hold his lightsaber with both hands because they would be difficult to use because of the way the hilt projected the blade, and made the comparison to a sword with a thick, heavy blade. Apparently, in the interim between the two trilogies Lucas decided to go with "flashy" instead of "heavy and difficult"

That's because Lucas has no clue on what real swords and believed the myths about European swords being heavy and clumsy when in actuality they typically weighed just a few pounds on average.

 

[Monkey67]

Yeah he was a Sith Lord. When he says "Jedi weapon" he might mean that the Jedi always use their lightsabers instead of their brains. You gotta remember he was soooo F'n good at making people do all this work. He could walk around right under the Jedi's temple n counsel with no fear of being detected. He got maul, count and Vader to do all his fighting for him. They were his muscle and dumb Jedi rejects. Only time he broke out his blade was when he had no choice than to open a can. Then had Vader finish off mace with not much effort, really was mace's fault. So he thinks the Sith weapon is their brain compared to showing off your blade color to the locals.

sorry for typos n crap..broke my phone glass. I think I'm bleeding right now. Lol. New phone day tomorrow.

 

[Hovito loincloth]

Perhaps they x and y wings really are made for space. We've never really seen tgem handle in atmosphere. And they need them as defensive escort for the escape. The snow speeders are just the last line of defense; holding off the walkers as long as possible

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Well they use them in the Battlefront game. And that must be canon cos it's got the Disney stamp of approval.

 

[TKRalph]

EP 1: Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi......Obi-Wan didn't use Force-speed to catch up and help Qui-Gonn against Darth Maul when they got separated. In the beginning of the movie both Jedi used Force-speed to get away from battle Droids. Why is this?

 

[Jaitea]

EP 1: Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi......Obi-Wan didn't use Force-speed to catch up and help Qui-Gonn against Darth Maul when they got separated. In the beginning of the movie both Jedi used Force-speed to get away from battle Droids. Why is this?

Because it wasn't thought out when it was written,....& they hoped no-one would remember that wee bit at the beginning of the film

J

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Because it wasn't thought out when it was written,....& they hoped no-one would remember

This part applies to much of the PT.

--Jonah

 

[Riceball]

If most to all droids in the Star Wars universe follow the naming convention of a letter and number model name and letter and number individual name, doesn't that limit each model of droid to only 234 individual droids? For example, if R2D2 is an R2 model of droid with the individual identifier of D2 does that mean that there can only be 234 R2s or R5s or R4s, etc.? Or are the last digits in the name identify the exact model of droid with the first 2 digits ie R2 being the series, meaning that there could be hundreds, if not thousands of R2D2s running around the galaxy?

 

[SpyderDan]

Two question, one OT and one PT:

Was really "The Emperor" a Sith Lord in the OT? I mean, we hear about the Dark Side of the Force, apprentices, Lords (Only Implied they were Dark by "Darth", if we asume it´s short for DAR_k Lord of the Si_TH, a title that is present on the novelization in 1976) He used the Dark Side of the Force, apparently had no Lightsaber, (and as he says it is "a Jedi´s Weapon"), so is he a Sith Lord?

In the prequels Dooku (a Sith Lord apprentice) wields the Force rays against YODA and has no phyisical alteration.
Palpatine casts his rays (he is THE Sith Lord) against Windu (He is NOT Yoda...) and ends like we all know What happened there?

In the recent Lords of the Sith book, set between episodes III and IV, Palpatine does quite a bit of fighting, along with Vader, but makes quite a point of leaving no witnesses (including his own royal guardsman) to him using the Force at all. Palpatine actively covered up the fact that he was actually a Sith lord.

My take on Palpatine's physical transformation was that he is very old and gnarled by using the dark side, but had been using the Force to maintain an illusion of himself looking normal and younger. During the confrontation with Windu, he lets the illusion break, and then spins it to the Senate as the result of the Jedi attempt to kill him leaving him deformed.

 

[SpyderDan]

If most to all droids in the Star Wars universe follow the naming convention of a letter and number model name and letter and number individual name, doesn't that limit each model of droid to only 234 individual droids? For example, if R2D2 is an R2 model of droid with the individual identifier of D2 does that mean that there can only be 234 R2s or R5s or R4s, etc.? Or are the last digits in the name identify the exact model of droid with the first 2 digits ie R2 being the series, meaning that there could be hundreds, if not thousands of R2D2s running around the galaxy?

234 if numbers are 1-9, 260 if 0-9. As soon as we expand the number to 0-99, we're up to 2600, but there are lots of ways to expand to allow more.

Also, it is C-3PO, not C3-PO, so we would be looking at 6760 possible "C series" droids in that case. Using that example, later R2 series droids could have designations like R2-AF3.

Or, maybe there are thousands of R2-D2s with only differing serial numbers. Given the way that nobody in-universe seems to recognize droids they have known and had numerous adventures with in the past, perhaps this makes more sense.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

If most to all droids in the Star Wars universe follow the naming convention of a letter and number model name and letter and number individual name, doesn't that limit each model of droid to only 234 individual droids? For example, if R2D2 is an R2 model of droid with the individual identifier of D2 does that mean that there can only be 234 R2s or R5s or R4s, etc.? Or are the last digits in the name identify the exact model of droid with the first 2 digits ie R2 being the series, meaning that there could be hundreds, if not thousands of R2D2s running around the galaxy?

Well, in AOTC Obi-Wan's astromech was R4-P17. R2-KT is in the Clone Wars. So whatever is after the model identifier* is likely only part of some longer serial number or subtype or like that.

* Bearing in mind that the so-called "model identifier" prefix is no longer as locked in as it used to be. Thanks to George not caring, we have an R4 with an R2 head in the movies, and an R8 with an R2 head in Clone Wars. In the original film, Luke calls R5-D4 an "R2 unit". So head shape may have nothing to do with it, after all, and "R2" might just be the original designator for that small astromech body design, and the various heads are option packages and nothing to do with the series number, which may be nothing more than a production block or software revision or some such, and not outwardly obvious...

--Jonah

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

It'll be interesting to see how lightsabers are handled in the upcoming trilogy movies--fast and flashy, or old and slow. :lol

I hope neither. In the OT Lucas said we only saw an old Jedi, a half mechanical Jedi, and a newly (and hastily) trained Jedi and hadn't really seen a really Jedi fighting. In the Prequels it looked cool, but a lot of it was flash and showing off which I imagine is part of what Yoda said when he said the Jedi were becoming more arrogant. So I'd like to see Luke or any other new Jedi using something more practical. Something like Bruce Lee was doing when he created Jeet Kune Do, getting rid of forms and anything not necessary to make a practical dueling form. I think if they tried to use OT fighting it will just look stupid. It should have the speed of the Prequels without the unnecessary spinning around.

Yeah he was a Sith Lord. When he says "Jedi weapon" he might mean that the Jedi always use their lightsabers instead of their brains. You gotta remember he was soooo F'n good at making people do all this work. He could walk around right under the Jedi's temple n counsel with no fear of being detected. He got maul, count and Vader to do all his fighting for him. They were his muscle and dumb Jedi rejects. Only time he broke out his blade was when he had no choice than to open a can. Then had Vader finish off mace with not much effort, really was mace's fault. So he thinks the Sith weapon is their brain compared to showing off your blade color to the locals.
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One of the old EU books had the Emperor telling Vader that the Sith don't need lightsabers that they just use them to humble the Jedi. I thought that was a good look into the Sith's lightsaber use.

EP 1: Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi......Obi-Wan didn't use Force-speed to catch up and help Qui-Gonn against Darth Maul when they got separated. In the beginning of the movie both Jedi used Force-speed to get away from battle Droids. Why is this?

I would imagine that running into one of those laser gates would end the duel pretty quick.

 

[Krull]

I hope neither. In the OT Lucas said we only saw an old Jedi, a half mechanical Jedi, and a newly (and hastily) trained Jedi and hadn't really seen a really Jedi fighting. In the Prequels it looked cool, but a lot of it was flash and showing off which I imagine is part of what Yoda said when he said the Jedi were becoming more arrogant. So I'd like to see Luke or any other new Jedi using something more practical. Something like Bruce Lee was doing when he created Jeet Kune Do, getting rid of forms and anything not necessary to make a practical dueling form. I think if they tried to use OT fighting it will just look stupid. It should have the speed of the Prequels without the unnecessary spinning around.

Here's and idea:how about they get a real swordsman to work the fights over? some of the Asian styles are fast yet practical,hell get Jet Li to do it.

 

[Riceball]

Here's and idea:how about they get a real swordsman to work the fights over? some of the Asian styles are fast yet practical,hell get Jet Li to do it.

With the growing interest in HEMA these days there are plenty of people that could hire to help choreograph the fights, there's a guy in England who had YouTube channel devoted to HEMA who'd be a great candidate.

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[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Can we maybe get people who do parkour to play Jedi?

--Jonah

 

[TKRalph]

-The technology in Prequels and Clone Wars seem more advanced than in the OT. Yes the OT were made in the late 70s and 80s but they should have made the prequels and Clone Wars era a bit primitive compare to the OT.

-Different types of clone armor look more advanced compare to the supposedly upgraded Stormtrooper armor

 

[Zombie_61]

...Was really "The Emperor" a Sith Lord in the OT? I mean, we hear about the Dark Side of the Force, apprentices, Lords (Only Implied they were Dark by "Darth", if we asume it´s short for DAR_k Lord of the Si_TH, a title that is present on the novelization in 1976)...

When George Lucas was writing the story and script for what eventually came to be known as Episode IV: A New Hope, "Darth Vader" was nothing more than a play on the words "Dark Father", and it was actually the character's name. This is why Obi-Wan continually calls him Darth--at that time it was his first name, not a title or honorific. It was only later when ol' Georgie boy had to flesh out the Star Wars universe more fully and explain the hierarchy of the Jedi and Sith that it became a title instead of a name.

I hope neither. In the OT Lucas said we only saw an old Jedi, a half mechanical Jedi, and a newly (and hastily) trained Jedi and hadn't really seen a really Jedi fighting. In the Prequels it looked cool, but a lot of it was flash and showing off which I imagine is part of what Yoda said when he said the Jedi were becoming more arrogant. So I'd like to see Luke or any other new Jedi using something more practical. Something like Bruce Lee was doing when he created Jeet Kune Do, getting rid of forms and anything not necessary to make a practical dueling form. I think if they tried to use OT fighting it will just look stupid. It should have the speed of the Prequels without the unnecessary spinning around.

Well stated, and I agree completely.

 

[Riceball]

-The technology in Prequels and Clone Wars seem more advanced than in the OT. Yes the OT were made in the late 70s and 80s but they should have made the prequels and Clone Wars era a bit primitive compare to the OT.

-Different types of clone armor look more advanced compare to the supposedly upgraded Stormtrooper armor

They only seem more advanced because everything was shinier and cleaner, a deliberate choice on Lucas' part that, from what I've read, is meant to contrast the difference between the era of the Old Republic and the Empire. Everything was supposed to be bright and shiny during the Old Republic hiding the rotten core at its center while under the Empire things were more used looking and dirtier to reflect the truth of life in the Empire.

Another thing to bear in mind is that appearances can be deceiving. A good example of this modern body armor, take a look at a modern soldier and compare him to a knight at the height of plate armor, if you just looked at the two and knew nothing about aramids like Kevlar and ceramic and steel plate inserts, who would you think is wearing the more advanced armor and is better protected? Even if the armor of the Stormtrooper is indeed less advanced than that of their predecessor the Clone Trooper, it's not exactly unheard of for tech to regress. Take the Roman legionnaire, at one point in time they were wearing what could be regarded as a very advanced form of armor commonly referred to as lorica segmentata which consisted of iron or steel bands going on the shoulders and all across the upper torso yet by the fall of the Roman Empire they had gone back to wearing mail, something they wear before the adoption of segmentata. No one knows why exactly but one theory is that mail was just cheaper and easier, fewer sizes were needed since they wore just like shirts, and they were easier to repair and maintain since all you need to repair was to attach another link. The same could be said of the Stormtroopers, perhaps it was just easier and cheaper to make their armor than those of the clones even at the expense of protection, especially when you figure that even Clone Trooper armor couldn't stop blaster fire so perhaps the Imperial military figured that cheaper was better since the extra money didn't result in extra protection.

 

[KrangPrime]

EP 1: Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi......Obi-Wan didn't use Force-speed to catch up and help Qui-Gonn against Darth Maul when they got separated. In the beginning of the movie both Jedi used Force-speed to get away from battle Droids. Why is this?

plot device. maybe it was tougher to figure out how to make maul win against two jedi rather than one?

 

[Solo4114]

There's also the consideration around the technology of the time. It's possible that the Clone Trooper armor was designed in response to the needs of the time, when fighting against droid armies.

Plate mail is a fantastic protective suit against most melee weapons. It's useless against a firearm, though. Likewise, the body armor of the average U.S. Army soldier deployed in the Middle East is pretty awful protection against, say, a rain of arrows or a guy who knows how to use a halbred or a mace. The difference is, that's not likely to be an issue, since the guy with the mace won't be able to get into range to use it. So, the armor is designed to protect against ballistics.