Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)
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Are Any of them... really ?
Since the dawn of the internet and the need to populate it with Fun facts and trivia amongst other things..
A trend arose where The Studios realised Home content Movie releases could now have Deleted content Missing scenes added as Extra Content sometimes hastily sometimes drip fed over multiple re release DVDs (looking at you Ridley) with the Internet used to Hype add to.. the Money for old rope.
We all know a Movie has swathes of additional scenes content that was just not good enough to make the Final cut.. An actor can get disappear on the cutting room floor, many have over the years.
Then Suddenly we needed to know
Who's that unnamed shifty guy with a Knife who only grunts but looks important, I bet there's a story to be told there.. No No No.. or it would already be included in the script.
Yeah I'm interested in Old Ben but like a great many others have said
If they screw up Kenobi!!!
Its..
Possibly...
I'm being partly facetious but the side of me that does seriously consider these things questions as to what benefit these additions make? The biggest issue is that the new content retreads on areas where it damages the continuity. I suppose if you're a fan who doesn't take the story as a whole and just accepts each new installment as it's own thing, that's one approach, but when you consider that these stories are all supposed to marry into one another seamlessly it does beg the question.
It depends on your definition of necessary. Necessary to the story of Star Wars? I think not. Necessary to the Disney company and their ability to make money with Star Wars themes? Probably.
MattWinchell
Sr Member
Nope. As much as I like many of the new stories, I am of the firm belief less is more. From a business perspective, that would be financial suicide which I understand, but from a storytelling perspective, I would have stopped producing live-action content after the Mando s2 finale, which I thought wrapped up the story pretty nicely for live action.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
A possible fix to the Star Wars content issue is for them stop trying to appeal to everyone in every piece of live action and animated content. Once they realize that targeted content is superior to mass appeal I think things could get better and they'd make even more money than before. Win win.
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I dont think Seamless and Disney go together...
More Uncle Sam and Bigger pockets!
I cant see where Mando3 will go if he still has that little green cash cow... he really weakens Dins character as a BH
Whats next Din'y Day care!
joberg
Legendary Member
The shot of the Inquisitor walking in the street reminded me of this guy:
As for the question: "Is this necessary"...well, since there are many "holes" in between movies and other stories, people (Disney) have a tendency to want to "explain/fill" those holes. Next, we'll see what happened to Leia's hairdo in the beginning of ROTJ and her last one surrounded by the Ewok at the end of ROTJ
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ScourgiousJinx
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ConvergencePro
Master Member
Agreed. And it horribly cheapens the end of S2 thematically
All that build up to say “Goodbye little guy”.. and it was tossed out as filler in Another Characters show
For all the folks who abandoned BoBF just to wait for S3 TM and the show runners presumably just reSTART the story, it would also be kinda insulting
Disneys “thing” with SW seems more focused on creating goofy reasons in any of its stories for why you need to consume that additional story. Now you NEED to watch BoBF in order to understand Mando S3
This isn’t good story writing format or structure for anything other than Marvel, and for whatever reason their mission is to make them interchangeable
Sadly both have ended up far more hollow for it
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The shot of the Inquisitor walking in the street reminded me of this guy:
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As for the question: "Is this necessary"...well, since there are many "holes" in between movies and other stories, people (Disney) have a tendency to want to "explain/fill" those holes. Next, we'll see what happened to Leia's hairdo in the beginning of ROTJ and her last one surrounded by the Ewok at the end of ROTJ
I think the way they fill those holes is with piles of cash.
Riceball
Master Member
I have no problems with these live action shows, however, I do feel that Disney should try to stay away from characters that have a prominent role in any of the movies. There's too big of a possibility that they'll get some piece of lore wrong and the fans will get their knickers all twisted about it. Best to stick to secondary characters who may have stood out but had no big role in any of the movies, or create brand new characters l.ike Mando and Grogu.
Wolfsburg
Master Member
Totally agree. I’ve long been opposed to an Obi-wan movie/show, at least in this time period. They really run a high risk of screwing things up and the stakes are just too high to be worth it, in my fanboy opinion. This is not a story that had to be told and I would’ve been perfectly fine if Obi-wan had remained in seclusion watching over Luke for 20 years. However I know there was a sizable contingent of (maybe largely PT?) fanboys just crapping their pants to see Ewan playing Obi-wan again and likely didn’t care whether any of this was actually a good idea, especially under the Mouse’s watchful eye. This is a good example of “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”. I’d gladly like to be proven wrong and this thing be a masterpiece but the odds are small, imo.
Afterall, Boba Fett is far less of a big deal than Obi-wan and honestly was far more difficult to screw up (quiet badass in a cool helmet doing badass things) and we got a mixed bag at best.
Afterall, Boba Fett is far less of a big deal than Obi-wan and honestly was far more difficult to screw up (quiet badass in a cool helmet doing badass things) and we got a mixed bag at best.
Riceball
Master Member
Agreed, l while I think that this series is looking pretty cool, so far based on this teaser, I've said way back when this series was just a rumor that it serves no real purpose and that we really don't need to know more about Obi-Wan or Yoda for that matter. While both played important roles in the movies, they're also just secondary characters whose purpose was just to support Luke, they were basically plot devices.
I also agree that the time period they're setting it in kind or limits what they can do with the show. How many adventures and close encounters can Obi-Wan have without leaving Luke alone and unguarded or drawing undue attention to himself. But, I will admit that I'm curious as to how they plan on doing this, particularly given that they plan on involving Inquisitors. I'm not sure that Obi-Wan can beat them without signaling to Vader that there's a person of interest on Tattooine, someone capable of taking on and defeating Inquisitors. And unless Obi-Wan leaves Tattooine for a spell when Vader comes a looking, I'm not sure they can reconcile having Vader and Obi-Wan meet on Tatooine when their first meeting since Msutafrar(?) was on the Death Star in ANH. But if Obi-Wan leaves for a while, wouldn't Vader be able to sense Luke?
That's the rub though, isn't it? Quality story telling actually helps the brand financially because it guarantees repeat customers. There is no reason whatsoever for the scripts to be bad because they have the resources to hire talented writers who understand the material. In fact you'd think the opposite would be true given Disney's coffers and that each new story would be an instant hit because they hired the best of the best. I've long been a proponent that they venture elsewhere with the story and leave the legacy characters behind if they want to remain solvent as a business. It's not just a fan wish to have them leave the legacy material with a shred of its dignity, what I'm suggesting actually helps the brand and in turn keeps the business alive.
There's only so much they can mine from those characters before sales drop off. I understand brand recognition and owning the rights to a known character is a tempting yet easy choice, but look at the way Mandalorian and Grogu are not only beloved by audiences, but move product and increase viewership. If only they had the stones to trust in their original creations. Until they start branching out to tell new stories with their own original characters, in settings and storylines outside the saga films, technically speaking they aren't adding to the lore, they're just playing with someone else's.
I hope this Obi-Wan limited series delivers for fans. Honestly though the more I think about it there really are only a limited number of stories to be told with some of these characters. This show has to be a limited series because it's really the only era left uncovered for him. The saga films cover the course of his life so it's not like they could make another series or movie starring him. Same with Han. Vader too and the droids. Chewie.
Ultimately they need to stop telling new stories with old characters and start telling new stories with new characters.
There's only so much they can mine from those characters before sales drop off. I understand brand recognition and owning the rights to a known character is a tempting yet easy choice, but look at the way Mandalorian and Grogu are not only beloved by audiences, but move product and increase viewership. If only they had the stones to trust in their original creations. Until they start branching out to tell new stories with their own original characters, in settings and storylines outside the saga films, technically speaking they aren't adding to the lore, they're just playing with someone else's.
I hope this Obi-Wan limited series delivers for fans. Honestly though the more I think about it there really are only a limited number of stories to be told with some of these characters. This show has to be a limited series because it's really the only era left uncovered for him. The saga films cover the course of his life so it's not like they could make another series or movie starring him. Same with Han. Vader too and the droids. Chewie.
Ultimately they need to stop telling new stories with old characters and start telling new stories with new characters.
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