Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi (tv series)

[Cappy]

Vader did not elaborate in ANH when he last felt Obi-Wan's Presence. We assume it was Mustafar.
That would make sense if they left it there and I'd be ok with that. This is a limited series so one can only
hope they keep their focus and their vision tight and don't wander.

 

[Psab keel]

It's certainly possible that the two have crossed paths between trilogies and they will in this show. I just feel it undermines their final encounter.

 

[Paul Andrew]

But if Obi-Wan leaves for a while, wouldn't Vader be able to sense Luke?

The rules are never clearly spelled out, probably for good reason, but I don't think force sensitives can sense other force sensitives across vast distances like radar. I think Luke would have to be actively using the force in some grand manner for Vader to sense him when he (supposedly) doesn't even know Luke exists.

For instance, Vader doesn't sense Luke for the first time until the trench run despite Luke running all over the death star interior earlier.

 

[Psab keel]

That's not necessarily true if you consider the ST canon. Kylo and Rey had plenty of interactions far more involved than a few Skype calls.

 

[Paul Andrew]

That's not necessarily true if you consider the ST canon. Kylo and Rey had plenty of interactions far more involved than a few Skype calls.

They had a specific connection as a force dyad, stupid as it was.

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

From the EW site:

 

[Wolfsburg]

I think Yoda can sense others (wasn’t that in Rebels maybe?) and it’s indirectly implied that Vader sensed Luke on Hoth. “That’s it. The rebels are there. And I’m sure Skywalker is with them…” It could at least be interpreted that way.

That said, I don’t think Vader and Obi-wan will fight on Tatooine. It’ll either be a new place altogether or maybe somewhere poignant and symbolic. Like Padme’s mausoleum or something along those lines.

 

[Grievous]

That's the rub though, isn't it? Quality story telling actually helps the brand financially because it guarantees repeat customers. There is no reason whatsoever for the scripts to be bad because they have the resources to hire talented writers who understand the material. In fact you'd think the opposite would be true given Disney's coffers and that each new story would be an instant hit because they hired the best of the best. I've long been a proponent that they venture elsewhere with the story and leave the legacy characters behind if they want to remain solvent as a business. It's not just a fan wish to have them leave the legacy material with a shred of its dignity, what I'm suggesting actually helps the brand and in turn keeps the business alive.

There's only so much they can mine from those characters before sales drop off. I understand brand recognition and owning the rights to a known character is a tempting yet easy choice, but look at the way Mandalorian and Grogu are not only beloved by audiences, but move product and increase viewership. If only they had the stones to trust in their original creations. Until they start branching out to tell new stories with their own original characters, in settings and storylines outside the saga films, technically speaking they aren't adding to the lore, they're just playing with someone else's.

I hope this Obi-Wan limited series delivers for fans. Honestly though the more I think about it there really are only a limited number of stories to be told with some of these characters. This show has to be a limited series because it's really the only era left uncovered for him. The saga films cover the course of his life so it's not like they could make another series or movie starring him. Same with Han. Vader too and the droids. Chewie.

Ultimately they need to stop telling new stories with old characters and start telling new stories with new characters.

Your point is excellent- we all love nostalgia but if that’s all we experience, it becomes quite boring.
I thought this was a well written article- one of the writer’s points was that “Disney risks shrinking the ambitions of a generation of filmmakers, telling them that the only direction to look if they want to stay employed is toward the past.” And this was written 2 1/2 years ago when Disney+ first came out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/13/nostalgia-is-most-powerful-force-american-culture-right-now-no-one-can-sell-you-more-it-than-disney/

 

[Mottrex]

From the EW site:

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I used to be Darth Vader in a Go Go Bar ?...

 

[Mottrex]

I think Yoda can sense others (wasn’t that in Rebels maybe?) and it’s indirectly implied that Vader sensed Luke on Hoth. “That’s it. The rebels are there. And I’m sure Skywalker is with them…” It could at least be interpreted that way.

That said, I don’t think Vader and Obi-wan will fight on Tatooine. It’ll either be a new place altogether or maybe somewhere poignant and symbolic. Like Padme’s mausoleum or something along those lines.

That sounds interesting..
Imagine Vader realising he made such a huge mistake about Everything and Kenobi just made him angrier... que duel of fates score over Padme's tomb..

 

[ConvergencePro]

I have no problems with these live action shows, however, I do feel that Disney should try to stay away from characters that have a prominent role in any of the movies. There's too big of a possibility that they'll get some piece of lore wrong and the fans will get their knickers all twisted about it. Best to stick to secondary characters who may have stood out but had no big role in any of the movies, or create brand new characters l.ike Mando and Grogu.

Yeah.. watching them assassinate Lukes core character traits all over again to build up Grogu is definitely a endeavor in sadomasochism

 

[MattWinchell]

Yeah.. watching them assassinate Lukes core character traits all over again to build up Grogu is definitely a endeavor in sadomasochism

I never got that feeling during BOBF. From what I observed, it seems like Luke, being the new teacher he his, hasn't yet discovered the failures of the PT Jedi order. As such, he's more regurgitating the same dogmatic principles that Obi-Wan and Yoda taught him cause that's all he knows. Of course, his experiences through Vader clearly negate such principles, but as a person who's never taught before, sticking with the basics is a natural inclination. Of course by TLJ, he clearly understands why his order failed and why he failed as a teacher, and as an uncle.

 

[Psab keel]

 

[ConvergencePro]

I never got that feeling during BOBF. From what I observed, it seems like Luke, being the new teacher he his, hasn't yet discovered the failures of the PT Jedi order. As such, he's more regurgitating the same dogmatic principles that Obi-Wan and Yoda taught him cause that's all he knows. Of course, his experiences through Vader clearly negate such principles, but as a person who's never taught before, sticking with the basics is a natural inclination. Of course by TLJ, he clearly understands why his order failed and why he failed as a teacher, and as an uncle.

Its more a situation of Luke never abiding by said classic Jedi rules, having found his own path to becoming a Jedi in his trilogy

So why is Luke suddenly doubling down on things he himself never believed in? Hes not passing on what he learned, but what he was taught.
They sound similar at first glance, but the two viewpoints/concepts really couldn’t be further apart in structural foundation.
Like the whole point of the end of ROTJ when you see the force ghosts gather was meant to show Luke having altered/changed his own mentors as just much as he did Anakin/Vader

 

[Galactican]

My girlfriend thinks he looks like a mean potato.View attachment 1554439

The life-action version looks more like a Cenobite to me.

 

[ghostryder]

 

[Galactican]

Oh man... Yeah they really missed the mark on that one. He looks like Dr. Evil meets Death (of Bill and Ted fame). Animated artistic license aside, he was clearly meant to be thin and gaunt and they literally chose an actor that looks the total opposite, with a full, round, squat head. Just not flattering at all. All they needed to do is use Tion Medon as a template and go from there.

We'll surely have to play with the aspect ratio on our screens whenever he is shown:

 

[Pepperbone]

Here's a question no one's has asked yet. Is this story necessary?

Of course it isn't.

Is pizza necessary? Of course not.

Cheeseburgers? Nobody needs that!

Delicious pasta? No.

Profits?......ye$$$!!!!!!

 

[Pepperbone]

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.....cried at my desk for 10 minutes....

 

[Jamesfett]

Of course it isn't.

Is pizza necessary? Of course not.

Cheeseburgers? Nobody needs that!

Delicious pasta? No.

Profits?......ye$$$!!!!!!

Pizza is necessary. More than anything. Love, kids, employment happiness. One can live without any of that, but not pizza.