Star Wars Andor (Disney+ TV series)

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

My thoughts were that they would transfer prisoners between facilities, but trump up some charges during the transfer under PORD. They'd then have new charges with longer sentences & be sent to a different facility. If he or she weren't known there, then their word wouldn't be that trustworthy.

This instance, something went wrong & a prisoner was just moved from one floor to another so no cover story was going to fly.

"We were just about to put him on a transport and, the Emperor as my witness, dude totally lifted a cargo crate near the shuttle. Total Jedi stuff. So back to jail."

Someone translated the charges for Cassian during his sentencing and one of the charges said something like "possible Force user" or something along those lines. So it's entirely possible they just tack that on to get a bigger sentence.

 

[CessnaDriver]

Maybe it's a season 2 thing we have to wait to learn.

 

[CT1138]

I thought they were transferred off-world to a separate prison planet, under the guise that they were getting released, only to find out they were still in prison once they got there. Eventually, you probably just died, so word never got back to anywhere else what happened once you left your first prison planet.

 

[squirk]

What if it was a one time goof..

They transferred him down a floor, he freaks out, tells everyone on the floor..there’s a riot brewing on that floor..they are understaffed and trying to cover the fact they messed up..so they fry the floor.

The rumor that no one is getting out is false and it was a one time mistake by prison staff

Right. The doctor said that they made a “mistake.”

But what is the mistake-free version of the plan that makes sense? What was supposed to happen?

 

[Paul Andrew]

I can't actually come up with a good answer. Like, the only possible answer is that this is the FIRST time someone realized nobody gets out.

 

[NeoRutty]

I took it that if you were a prisoner there, when your times up, you get sent to another prison…. At that one everyone knows what’s going on… maybe higher security (everyone there would know their first sentence was a sham) maybe they aren’t even slave labor there… just execution. So really it’s just minimizing problems by keeping some prisoners in the dark early on to maintain order with less guards.

Then someone just got re routed back to that first prison, so the cats now out of the bag…

Clearly they need everyone calm and building parts… maybe this is the only place they do that?

 

[squirk]

maybe higher security (everyone there would know their first sentence was a sham) maybe they aren’t even slave labor there… just execution.

I was just thinking this very thing last night - it would make no sense to transfer them to another labor facility.

With the knowledge that they are likely going to die in prison, I would suspect overall transferee productivity levels would be low. They have absolutely no incentive to work hard, like they did on Narkina 5.

Yeah, you could torture some work out of them, I suppose. But that hardly seems worth the trouble.

 

[joberg]

Well, we've seen one of the prisoner commit suicide by stepping on the floor...also; what's in the food? Could be laced with some kind of chemical that keeps them working despite that dreadful knowledge of not getting out...

 

[squirk]

Well, we've seen one of the prisoner commit suicide by stepping on the floor...also; what's in the food? Could be laced with some kind of chemical that keeps them working despite that dreadful knowledge of not getting out...

Then why not just lace everyone’s food with this chemical, and dispense with the whole charade?

I think the theory that the “released” prisoners are just moved off-world to rot alone in a cell makes the most sense (though not perfect sense) of everything we’ve thrown out.

But I can’t imagine the ineptitude that must have happened to take an exiting prisoner - who was no doubt shouting his head off that he was supposed to be exiting - and accidentally rotate him back into the population. I mean, they have computers and stuff that would presumably error-check something like that.

 

[RBJ]

Right. The doctor said that they made a “mistake.”

But what is the mistake-free version of the plan that makes sense? What was supposed to happen?

He was supposed to get released

 

[squirk]

He was supposed to get released

You know what I mean……

 

[Analyzer]

It could simply be that they start to let them out, then in some mock hearing or exit review, they get some kind of "additional" time added, for some technicality or maybe they actually release them, but then immediately re-arrest on some trumped up charge

Like an Oh wait, sorry, we just found out that x.... Guess we have to put you back in for another 12 months, and in that time you better behave

 

[CT1138]

Then someone just got re routed back to that first prison, so the cats now out of the bag…

Clearly they need everyone calm and building parts… maybe this is the only place they do that?

That's what I think happened. Somehow there was a mistake and somebody got re-routed back to that prison world instead of moving on from the next one. They told a prisoner what happens when they get released, the info spreads, and boom, prison riot.

I suspect that different prisons are assembling different parts of the Death Star. The one we see assembles joints. Maybe another one is casting materials, and another one is mining the materials, and so on and so forth. There's just dozens, maybe hundreds, of different prison worlds out there with the sole purpose of fueling the Imperial war machine at no cost to the Empire. To do this, the Empire snatches anybody they want from anywhere they want, pin them on some trumped up charges like they did to Cassian, and just keep shuffling them around to various prison worlds until they eventually die from their labors.

This is just the first time that a path got reversed.

 

[NeoRutty]

I’ve seen so many reviews lately on Boba Fett or Obi wan saying “I’m done with Star Wars! I’m not watching anything else… especially not Andor!”

And I’m like “noooooo! This one is actually well done!”

It’s too bad they used up so much good will before knocking this one out of the park

It’s not hyperbole for me to say this is my fave SW since the OT

And I still really dig TFA and Mando season 2.

 

[Treadwell]

Only thing I can think of is the "never get out" thing is so new, this inevitable situation had just never come up before (at least at this facility), and there's too much bureaucracy to have a better procedure to prevent it.

 

[Analyzer]

They do not even need different worlds to transfer them to, there is more than one facility on Narkina, so you just keep moving them around facilities there

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I’ve seen so many reviews lately on Boba Fett or Obi wan saying “I’m done with Star Wars! I’m not watching anything else… especially not Andor!”

And I’m like “noooooo! This one is actually well done!”

It’s too bad they used up so much good will before knocking this one out of the park

It’s not hyperbole for me to say this is my fave SW since the OT

And I still really dig TFA and Mando season 2.

That's why a lot of people were saying the viewers for Andor were so low. Disney/Lucasfilm has used up a lot of fan goodwill with the Sequels, BoBF, and Obi-Wan along with how they are treating the fans who didn't like them.

 

[CT1138]

Eh, FWIW, I liked BoBF and Kenobi. Was there things I'd change, definitely, but the good outweighed the bad for me. I wouldn't have included the Mando episode in BoBF and saved that for Mando S3, and the finale didn't stick the landing for me. It felt too much like a child's playtime. But I liked the Boba flashbacks, and in general I thought it was well done.

Obi-Wan was a bit slow in places, but I felt that the franchise needed that. A lot of the complaints were that it didn't focus enough on Obi-Wan, but you need other characters in a show. 6 hours worth of Obi-Wan meditating in a cave reminiscing about the good old days is not interesting. Also, it adds other characters, which just means we'll inevitably get those complaints again. And as slow as the show was, we got to see Vader at his scariest, and one of the most emotional scenes in all of Star Wars. Both were well worth it.

Plus Disney has me hooked with shows like Bad Batch and The Mandalorian. Suffice to say, I still have much goodwill to give.

 

[dascoyne]

Here's another possible explanation. The floor was wiped out intentionally. With the massive influx of inmates due to the sudden and indiscriminate implementation of PORD, the prison wardens are suddenly charged with ways to accommodate the geometrically growing volume of bodies, and to do so with little support. In this case of Narkina 5 maybe the warden simply decided to clear out an entire floor as an expedient solution. The story of the misplaced innate may or may not be true. The doctor, then, would have only been giving his opinion.

 

[gunnerk19]

Didn't see this posted anywhere else. If so, please merge.

Guess we'll hear no more from Cassian and his band of rebels...

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