Star Wars Andor (Disney+ TV series)
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firesprite
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That's because they don't understand that bigger droids like B2 and R2 are sentient beings, not just programmed machines. R2 and 3PO were always expressing emotions because they're beings who possess them.It was bugging me because people were saying that droid didn't act like a droid. We've seen R2 act like that many times where he (sorry for assuming gender...) expressed what looked like emotion over various characters actions or a situation and made a worried noise.
I'm with you in that it drives me nuts that people don't get that.
I think the red Droid was fine, and I really looked forward to seeing him re appear.It was bugging me because people were saying that droid didn't act like a droid. We've seen R2 act like that many times where he (sorry for assuming gender...
Can’t wait to see the r2 builders replicate this guy
i like that red droid too
I gotta say I don't like either one. The Kenobi chase is bland and the Andor chase is too chaotic.
We finished this yesterday, overall we liked it and really more excited about the 2nd season when the rubber really should meet the road, which I understand will be the last season as it should be, which will go through time much faster, odd that the first season didn't do that. It lingered with slow burn and palace intrigue, and mothers. Lots of mothers! Something going on there. Spending so much time frankly in some case on stalker guys Mom and career was really not very interesting. Could have cut this down to 10 eps instead of 12, would have been much tighter. The actual rebels he encountered needed a little more reason to be rebels if you ask me. It was sort of a given, well they are rebels, Empire bad. If they were going with a lesbian couple, have the Empire be against that or something and they were persecuted for it. Did I miss something there? That would be a big motivator and have me cheering for them, rather than annoyed they both come off so cold. As for that actress, whoever it was, that tried to say this was all about modern political situation. What a doof. Wish I had never read that. Totally her own mapping of her own feelings. Not many aliens in this, which for Star Wars feels off, seems they went on the cheap for locations, green hills and valleys of earth. It doesn't click into the Star Wars 77 universe as well as R1 did in my opinion. Some things rang true for war, like Churchill had to do in WWII, letting a town get bombed or give up that they had the German codes. War sucks. I still do like Andor himself, He's got his s*** wired tight! LOL
That chase through the asteroid shower was going to be my marker whether I just liked or loved the show. The concept for it screamed beautiful sci fi if done right
And it was.
Those shots of the tie pilots getting in their ships while the lights steak across the sky in front of them had me go back and pause the screen.
I do love that a huge part of the show is that the rebels are pushing the empires buttons, forcing them to over reach BECAUSE they fear no one has a reason to rebel yet… they (or Luthan, anyway) can see where this is going, that Empire is encroaching on the peoples rights sooo slowly that they won’t know they’ve lost those rights until it’s too late.
That hook had me instantly.
I guess the Empire never really caught on to that. Later... Blow up a planet! That'll fix it. LOL
"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
squirk
Master Member
Was rewatching the show for the fourth (!) time, and a nagging question popped into my mind about the “prisoner transfer” on Narkina 5:
So, with the PORD, the Empire isn’t letting anyone go once their sentence is up. Just reassigning the prisoner to a new room on a new level (and perhaps even in a new building elsewhere on the moon). I get that.
But … why would the admins of the prison think the guy wouldn’t start freaking out and screaming his head off when he was not set free and realized he was never getting out?
I’m in Section 3-5-N, and I think my sentence is up and I’m a free man, but instead I just get moved to Section 6-1-D with a new made-up sentence. Did the warden think I was just going to keep my mouth shut and say nothing to the other 6-1-D prisoners about it?
And if I’m going to say something to the other prisoners - and they all realize they are totally screwed - then the warden should have expected the strong possibility that there’d be a riot in response. Meaning they’d be forced to fry 100 able hands and bring production to a halt in that room.
I’m having trouble following the Empire’s logic here. And I’m having trouble pinning down what the “mistake” was that the doctor referred to. The whole idea seems fatally flawed.
Did I miss something?
So, with the PORD, the Empire isn’t letting anyone go once their sentence is up. Just reassigning the prisoner to a new room on a new level (and perhaps even in a new building elsewhere on the moon). I get that.
But … why would the admins of the prison think the guy wouldn’t start freaking out and screaming his head off when he was not set free and realized he was never getting out?
I’m in Section 3-5-N, and I think my sentence is up and I’m a free man, but instead I just get moved to Section 6-1-D with a new made-up sentence. Did the warden think I was just going to keep my mouth shut and say nothing to the other 6-1-D prisoners about it?
And if I’m going to say something to the other prisoners - and they all realize they are totally screwed - then the warden should have expected the strong possibility that there’d be a riot in response. Meaning they’d be forced to fry 100 able hands and bring production to a halt in that room.
I’m having trouble following the Empire’s logic here. And I’m having trouble pinning down what the “mistake” was that the doctor referred to. The whole idea seems fatally flawed.
Did I miss something?
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Yeah I thought that too. Given they were pretty much able to speak freely to each other. Not sure how you explain that away. They didn't seem to have a way to wipe minds, no amount of threats would keep everyone shut up. All I can think was maybe that was the first guy they pulled that on? That doesn't seem reasonable explaination either.
My thoughts were that they would transfer prisoners between facilities, but trump up some charges during the transfer under PORD. They'd then have new charges with longer sentences & be sent to a different facility. If he or she weren't known there, then their word wouldn't be that trustworthy.
This instance, something went wrong & a prisoner was just moved from one floor to another so no cover story was going to fly.
squirk
Master Member
Yeah, a hasty and sloppy implementation of PORD would dovetail nicely with Luthen’s plan of baiting the Empire into overreacting to Aldhani.
But I also agree that still doesn’t make much sense. It never occurred to anybody among the prison staff that the guy would talk? Barring cutting out his tongue or threatening his family, why wouldn’t he talk?
They could have just let him go, had 99 guys continue working the line, and easily replaced him with some other poor sap with ginned-up b.s. charges, just like they nabbed Cassian.
The prison was understaffed, and the officials were overly-complacent, but nothing indicated that they were dirt-stupid.
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squirk
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A cover story would still fly moving just from floor to floor, though, no?
“We were processing prisoner 2385664 for release when he suddenly attacked a guard/we found contraband on him/he engaged in anti-Imperial speech/etc. His sentence was immediately extended for another full term under PORD.”
If the plan was to move him to another facility with a bunch of strangers who wouldn’t believe his story, I wonder how long that would work? How many incoming transfers exclaiming “They resentenced me for no reason!” would have to happen before prisoners in any facility would realize they are hearing the same story way too many times to be made up?
I wonder if we’re overlooking something, or if something was lost in editing the ep, or if Beau Willimon just had a plot-hole in his script.
Maybe they are hastily working on a "deleted scene" as we speak for the blu ray release. LOL
RBJ
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What if it was a one time goof..
They transferred him down a floor, he freaks out, tells everyone on the floor..there’s a riot brewing on that floor..they are understaffed and trying to cover the fact they messed up..so they fry the floor.
The rumor that no one is getting out is false and it was a one time mistake by prison staff
They transferred him down a floor, he freaks out, tells everyone on the floor..there’s a riot brewing on that floor..they are understaffed and trying to cover the fact they messed up..so they fry the floor.
The rumor that no one is getting out is false and it was a one time mistake by prison staff
