It sounded like this was just the latest in many Coresec screwups, and the last straw for the Empire.
Star Wars Andor (Disney+ TV series)
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I got the sense that the Empire is always looking for excuses to seed the remotest places with an Imperial presence.
But the interest in Morlana is driven by internal politics as well. e.g. ISB Lieutenant Supervisor Blevin may simply be capitalizing off that event to justify displacing the local authority with Imperial Forces, no doubt under his command. For him this would secure additional control in that sector specifically under his authority and expand his power/influence in general. Blevin is already in charge of "six sectors" which would imply he has the political ambition to have acquired this amount of territory. His move in Morlana alone would justify additional support in the form of personnel and equipment.
He's also notably protective of his singular authority over Morlana from ISB agent Dedra Meero. I'm not yet sure if she's trying to competitively usurp Blevin's move (as he seems to fear) or if it is because she is, as she says, building a case that seeds of an organized rebellion are brewing under the nose of the Empire. Probably the latter.
<cough>Chernobyl<cough>
Loving the little bit we saw of Anton Lessers ISB officer. He was great as Qyburn in Game of Thrones and I hope we see more of him here.
Well, after watching 3 and 4; I'm hooked. I don't mind the slow burn if the trade off is good dialogs, performances, pacing, structure, score etc.
Is it just me or is anyone else anticipating Galen Erso to eventually show up?
Is it just me or is anyone else anticipating Galen Erso to eventually show up?
joberg
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As we've seen before; to "cut" a bankable actor's salary is to make him/her (on top of his scale pay) an exec. producer (another kind of salary)
But still lower than the full one he/she would command for a series/film (unaffordable).
As we've seen before; to "cut" a bankable actor's salary is to make him/her (on top of his scale pay) an exec. producer (another kind of salary)
But still lower than the full one he/she would command for a series/film (unaffordable).
I would think that the actor should also understand that their presence as the only "exec producer" on the set may implicitly impart a additional degree of culpability in the event of mismanagement and safety violations on the set since the "plausible deniability" argument becomes less (or un-) tenable.
e.g. if, say, in the midst of laxed safety standards and practice on the set, your lead actor happens to negligently discharge a loaded firearm into one or more members of the crew. Hypothetically, of course.
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Riceball
Master Member
The way I've always seen the way that the Empire worked was in a way similar to how the Nazi German government did with all the top officials treating their positions as their own personal fiefdoms and jealously guarding them against others. But it always seemed that the Empire took that idea to the next level with not just high-level personnel carving out their own fiefdoms but their subordinates doing the same, if within the framework of the Imperial mandate. People with power are very likely to loathe seeking outside help for anything for fear of being stabbed in the back or a junior stealing some of their power.
Victor3
Sr Member
Wow, this far in, and no one at RPF has said anything about the egg slicer lights?
I’m really loving this show. Everything about it feels tense and oppressive, as it should at this time. With all the name drops in this episode, I’m wondering if we’ll hear anything about Lothal - since Rebels starts at about this same time.
I’m really loving this show. Everything about it feels tense and oppressive, as it should at this time. With all the name drops in this episode, I’m wondering if we’ll hear anything about Lothal - since Rebels starts at about this same time.
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TradeCraft
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I noticed that last night! I was thinking, surely those aren't hard boiled egg slicers! LOL
For me, especially after this last episode, it's like watching Lord of the Rings with space ships.
Just long and drawn out boring. Not sure how many episodes are planned but I hope this
picks up a bit more.
Just long and drawn out boring. Not sure how many episodes are planned but I hope this
picks up a bit more.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
I really liked the Utupaun monk cudgel. Would love to have better views of the rest of the items in that room as well.
You're looking in the wrong thread.
Andor Found Background Items and props.
In the second episode of Andor in Timm's kitchen we can see two hexagonal cases. I immediately recognized them as a rollable storage case called RolyKit.
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joberg
Legendary Member
Well, the "accidental discharge" of a firearm has already been solved since that Baldwin accident (airsoft only from what I gathered).
I'm sure the liability in their exec. prod. would mention something about safety standards and practice on set i.e. : the actor wouldn't be responsible for that part of his job (another person would be in charge).
robstyle
Master Member
Going back to Andor and producer credits, it's always been a way to offset an upfront paycheck. Same with points on the end or a cut of merch sales. It's nothing new. 90210, Seinfeld, friends... All had cast that ended up producers to offset the absurd weekly paychecks being negotiated.
It certainly is. Scenes like this easily fail if the actor doesn't deliver.
And the cleaner, brighter room hidden from the rest of the dark ship - a symbolic reflection of the character and context.
So far there have been a few scenes where in the hands of lesser talent (...) it would have been easy to go full-cliché.
This one below comes to mind.
It's unimaginable to even begin to think that those running the other shows have the capacity, will or knowhow to come up with a scene like this one. The writing is award-winning, the pacing is spot-on, no score necessary, no unnecessary camera moves - and Lesser's delivery can't get better than this. Dominance without tyranny. From "Speak!" even before he's entered to room, to "We're done." as he exits, all done without show of force or weakness. Pure, refined authority. To me: it's magic.
On top of that, it would have been mandatory for lesser skilled filmmakers to have him pick sides during that scene, under the guise of "wanting to make sure the audience understands." Skilled filmmakers respect the audience and their capacity to figure things out on their own. And that's why we're benefiting from this level of performance, and why players like Lesser and Skarsgard are in this show.
I wouldn't be shocked if in the near future we would see an interview with KK telling us how "this was the plan all long." That "the other shows were meant for a younger audience, and that SW needed more mature content for the fans of the original movie who are now at a different stage in their lives."
I wouldn't care.
All I care about is being entertained.
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I get that it's not for everyone. There's nothing wrong with pew-pew stuff.
I mostly enjoy Mando. But I also enjoy leaving the screen and thinking about what I just saw, and imagining what else there could be in the Universe. Mando and the other shows don't offer (me) that, and this one does.
If we can have SW content of different flavors, for everyone to enjoy, then we all win.
jkno
Legendary Member
Andor is a much deeper show than any other Disney shows so far. The characters develop slowly, but they do develop in a natural way, combining the environment they are in at that moment, the relation with other characters and their own backgrounds. Like I said before, it is a show for mature audience, an audience which enjoys the subtleties of espionage stories, the refinement of the dialogue and the sophistication of the various scenes. I wanted a Star Wars show like this for decades, I'm glad it is finally here, for all of us to watch.
Mr Webber
Master Member
So gave this a watch coz I liked Rogue One despite its flaws and actually really dig it. I thought the whole "I know how it ends up with this dude" would hold back my appreciation but its not a factor so far. Loving the procedural aspect. An Empire requires a lot of procedure and minutiae and they are covering this nicely.
This is a Disney production so the chances of them totally destroying the aspects that make anything Star Wars at its core great is still a chance of happening but until then. I'm all in.
This is a Disney production so the chances of them totally destroying the aspects that make anything Star Wars at its core great is still a chance of happening but until then. I'm all in.
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