Star Wars Ahsoka (tv series)

Joek3rr said:
Oh, jeez. I kinda want to be excited. But anything attached to TCW is just meh now. And Dave is showing himself to be kinda a one trick pony. His schtick these days is remixing, watering down, and bastardizing EU content. And then shoving Ahsoka into every single thing. Then slathering everything in easter eggs. I think I'll stick with the original Heir to the Empire.
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Spot on

J
 
Wolfsburg said:
I'm don't hate Filoni but I do think he's pretty overrated...but with that said he's currently among the best LFL has to offer and this looks interesting, at the least. I still need to go back and finish Rebels. I wasn't a huge fan of it but I guess it's time to finally finish it off before this show comes out.

I loved seeing the E-wing. Looks like they did away with the third cannon on top that would've interfered with the canopy opening! Lol! I wonder if the Kenner astromech could be the genesis for the BB units. As I recall, EU E-wings either didn't require astromechs or required some specialized version. I don't recall now.

Seeing "young" Mon Mothma, post-ROTJ is pretty weird. They didn't even bother to change her hair. From the first trailer, I had assumed this might've been an old recording but nope, her appearances looks to be contemporary to the show. I generally prefer deepfakes to recasting although I am probably in the minority.

That said, I'd be surprised if we don't get a deepfaked Big Three cameo before all is said in done (either in this show or in Filoni's movie).
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I don't have any problems with Filoni myself, I really enjoyed Rebels. My main concern is whether or not he and/or his staff, can write a cohesive story that only takes 6 episodes. So car, the writers for all of the Star Wars shows, and some of the Marvels shows as well, have been struggling with writing a 6 episode story. To me, it always feels like that they have 8 - 10 episodes worth of story that they try cram into a mere 6 episodes.
 
Thawn deserves his own show. Should have just made Heir to the empire. Three seasons, one book per season. Instead we get another Force is female show. I love Ashoka, but I wish they'd done a younger version. She would be awesome as
" Snips".

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Riceball said:
I don't have any problems with Filoni myself, I really enjoyed Rebels. My main concern is whether or not he and/or his staff, can write a cohesive story that only takes 6 episodes. So car, the writers for all of the Star Wars shows, and some of the Marvels shows as well, have been struggling with writing a 6 episode story. To me, it always feels like that they have 8 - 10 episodes worth of story that they try cram into a mere 6 episodes.
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I think those are valid concerns. For my tastes, Filoni seems to love meandering "filler" way too much and just verges a bit too far into the goofy from time to time.
 
Wolfsburg said:
I think those are valid concerns. For my tastes, Filoni seems to love meandering "filler" way too much and just verges a bit too far into the goofy from time to time.
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I have no meandering filler, except when you only have 6 episodes in a season. This is part of why I liked Andor so much, it had enough room to breathe, there was enough episodes so that the writers didn't need to rush thing and room enough for a bit of filler, but not so long that you needed a lot of filler to pad things.

I think that despite what Disney execs think or want, the vast majority of American screenwriters don't know how to write for a 7 episode season. The Japanese and Koreas seems to know how based on the anime Yakitori and the K-drama Black Knight on Netflix. Of course, both have the benefit of (apparently) being just one and done shows and don't have to set things up for another season nor, as in Disney's case, serve as a lead up to another show. Either Disney need to hire writers/show runners who know how to work with just 6 episodes or they need to be willing to pay for at least another 2 episodes per season.
 
Riceball said:
I have no meandering filler, except when you only have 6 episodes in a season. This is part of why I liked Andor so much, it had enough room to breathe, there was enough episodes so that the writers didn't need to rush thing and room enough for a bit of filler, but not so long that you needed a lot of filler to pad things.

I think that despite what Disney execs think or want, the vast majority of American screenwriters don't know how to write for a 7 episode season. The Japanese and Koreas seems to know how based on the anime Yakitori and the K-drama Black Knight on Netflix. Of course, both have the benefit of (apparently) being just one and done shows and don't have to set things up for another season nor, as in Disney's case, serve as a lead up to another show. Either Disney need to hire writers/show runners who know how to work with just 6 episodes or they need to be willing to pay for at least another 2 episodes per season.
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I think the British are fairly good at that. I look at 2 of my favorite shows, SHERLOCK & LUTHER, & both were 3 to maybe 6 episodes per season, or as they call them, 'series'. At the end of each of those shows, you didn't feel like you were missing anything & if there were no more, then the story would just be complete, but with those shows, people WANTED more.

I just posted something in the Indy thread about IPs, & how stories suffer when you have a big one that's been around for decades, & you see that with another British product in Doctor Who. That IP has such a history that the new content has suffered because as long as they can throw David Tennant or Tom Baker on a mug or a t-shirt, then the IP is going to make money, & new content is becoming just an excuse to put out new merch & grab that precious shelf space.
 
Riceball said:
I have no meandering filler, except when you only have 6 episodes in a season. This is part of why I liked Andor so much, it had enough room to breathe, there was enough episodes so that the writers didn't need to rush thing and room enough for a bit of filler, but not so long that you needed a lot of filler to pad things.

I think that despite what Disney execs think or want, the vast majority of American screenwriters don't know how to write for a 7 episode season. The Japanese and Koreas seems to know how based on the anime Yakitori and the K-drama Black Knight on Netflix. Of course, both have the benefit of (apparently) being just one and done shows and don't have to set things up for another season nor, as in Disney's case, serve as a lead up to another show. Either Disney need to hire writers/show runners who know how to work with just 6 episodes or they need to be willing to pay for at least another 2 episodes per season.
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I don't think they have the "whole story" down when starting a series. They'll invent stuff while going along with what they wrote previously.
They don't have a general view of what's what...it grows as they write the story/characters. Maybe that's the problem:unsure:
 
joberg said:
I don't think they have the "whole story" down when starting a series. They'll invent stuff while going along with what they wrote previously.
They don't have a general view of what's what...it grows as they write the story/characters. Maybe that's the problem:unsure:
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That could very well be the problem. They're still thinking like old show runners and writers with long seasons and episodes that are written all throughout the season as they go. I think that a lot of these writers and show runners still have not adapted to long form story telling in television and, at best, have an idea of what they want to do for the season and then just make it up as they go along. This is probably because the show runners are people who have been in the business a long time and this is how they were taught and have always done things. Likewise the people teaching screenwriting, they're old timers from back in the days of 20 - 30+ episode seasons of serial televi8sion. They could all learn a lot form the writers of Yakitori and Black Knight and how to tell a good story in only 6 episodes.
 
Halliwax said:
Will any of these strikes in Hollywood effect this release date?
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I’m only speculating, but I wouldn’t think so. This close to the release date, I would think everything is done and they’re just waiting to hit the ”publish” button…

I’ve seen a few posts on social media from various folks involved with the industry, and they all seem to support continuing to go to the movies, watch streaming services, etc. as the striking folks are still earning money from that. It’s only the future stuff that hasn’t been written or filmed yet that is going to be impacted.

Sean
 
masterjedi322 said:
I’m only speculating, but I wouldn’t think so. This close to the release date, I would think everything is done and they’re just waiting to hit the ”publish” button…

I’ve seen a few posts on social media from various folks involved with the industry, and they all seem to support continuing to go to the movies, watch streaming services, etc. as the striking folks are still earning money from that. It’s only the future stuff that hasn’t been written or filmed yet that is going to be impacted.

Sean
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Agreed, that's what I'm seeing as well. Any sort of a consumer boycott at the moment will only hurt the actors and support people. That may change at some point if the studios remain intractable, but we're definitely not there yet.
 
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