Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

[Captain Dunsel]

At least they gave him a mustache.

Yes…the mustache adds both accuracy and a touch of class to Sam Kirk.

 

[asalaw]

Yes…the mustache adds both a touch of accuracy and a class to Sam Kirk.
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The funny part is, the mustache was added in Operation: Annihilate to disguise the fact that it was Shatner playing Sam’s corpse. It’s literally the only thing about the SNH version that’s canon.

 

[Mottrex]

The funny part is, the mustache was added in Operation: Annihilate to disguise the fact that it was Shatner playing Sam’s corpse. It’s literally the only thing about the SNH version that’s canon.

I had to laugh looks like a certain Anson Mount on the floor!

Now if only he'd been picked to play Jimbo..

 

[pengbuzz]

I had to laugh looks like a certain Anson Mount on the floor!

Now if only he'd been picked to play Jimbo..

Now watch SNL, I mean SNH kill off Lt. Kirk, and all that's left is his mustache!

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Now watch SNL, I mean SNH kill off Lt. Kirk, and all that's left is his mustache!

And then they’ll do “The search for Sam,” wherein they find that his dead body was reanimated by the Genisys (spelling intended) device and they have to get to his body and reunite it with his mustache which holds his Katra.

 

[Mottrex]

And then they’ll do “The search for Sam,” wherein they find that his dead body was reanimated by the Genisys (spelling intended) device and they have to get to his body and reunite it with his mustache which holds his Katra.

I'd watch that...

 

[pengbuzz]

And then they’ll do “The search for Sam,” wherein they find that his dead body was reanimated by the Genisys (spelling intended) device and they have to get to his body and reunite it with his mustache which holds his Katra.

That would probably win an emmy!

 

[asalaw]

That would probably win an emmy!

And speaking of Emmys, the noms are out. Picard got four, Strange New Hair got one, and none of them are for writing, directing, acting, or overall best show. Just makeup, wardrobe, and sound editing.

Anyone at all surprised?

 

[kalkamel]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[asalaw]

I'll just leave this here.
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BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Ortegas is a snarky cardboard cutout. That’s it. No character development at all. Entirely replaceable. No one would notice.

 

[Gregatron]

And speaking of Emmys, the noms are out. Picard got four, Strange New Hair got one, and none of them are for writing, directing, acting, or overall best show. Just makeup, wardrobe, and sound editing.

Anyone at all surprised?

Much in the same way that the Abrams movies were only nominated for technical Oscars. They reward only the lipstick, and quietly ignore the pig wearing it.

 

[Gregatron]

I'll just leave this here.
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Excuse me—


* Has Melissa Navia ever served as a pilot, or in any military branch at all? I’m asking a serious question, here, mind you, not a snarky one.

* Is Melissa Navia so narcissistic that she’s actually using her off-putting haircut as a rebuttal point for a legitimate criticism?

 

[asalaw]

Much in the same way that the Abrams movies were only nominated for technical Oscars. They reward only the lipstick, and quietly ignore the pig wearing it.

That’s priceless!!!

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Excuse me—


* Has Melissa Navia ever served as a pilot, or in any military branch at all? I’m asking a serious question, here, mind you, not a snarky one.

* Is Melissa Navia so narcissistic that she’s actually using her off-putting haircut as a rebuttal point for a legitimate criticism?

I can find no evidence at all in her IMDB profile or her Wikipedia bio that she’s ever been anything other than an actress.

And yes, she’s narcissistic enough to rebut with her hair. And also to believe her actor’s notes and the backstory in her head constitute character development on the show…

 

[Gregatron]

That’s priceless!!!



I can find no evidence at all in her IMDB profile or her Wikipedia bio that she’s ever been anything other than an actress.

And yes, she’s narcissistic enough to rebut with her hair. And also to believe her actor’s notes and the backstory in her head constitute character development on the show…

Considering the sort of people these NuTREK projects have attracted, I’m more inclined to think that she feels her gender and racial makeup are what make the character “good”, rather than actual content of character.

 

[asalaw]

Considering the sort of people these NuTREK projects have attracted, I’m more inclined to think that she feels her gender and racial makeup are what make the character “good”, rather than actual content of character.

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. She’s probably among the empty-headed 2% of us who actually use the term “Latinx.” That is a real, polled figure. 2%. We’re a culture, not a facial tissue.

 

[Cephus]

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Ortegas is a snarky cardboard cutout. That’s it. No character development at all. Entirely replaceable. No one would notice.

No, we'd celebrate.

 

[Gregatron]

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. She’s probably among the empty-headed 2% of us who actually use the term “Latinx.” That is a real, polled figure. 2%. We’re a culture, not a facial tissue.

Sounds about right. In recent times, I’ve been very, very mindful to fight against the nonsense by treating people as individuals, and to relate them on an actual human level. It also took all my willpower not to write something…interesting…in the comment section of a “diversity and inclusion” survey issued by my employer. The growing flood of propaganda at work has already gotten me constantly biting the inside of my cheek so I don’t draw attention to myself.



Meanwhile, Ms. Navia seems eager to blanket-label all critics as “sad and insecure”. Clearly not a fan of individualism, since she’s eager to follow the usual playbook to combat critics.

 

[pengbuzz]

I'll just leave this here.
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Let me take these point by point:

1) The helmsman of a capital military vessel is not a "pilot", but a helmsman. Terminology matters. A pilot might act like that off-duty, but a helmsman is not going to behave that way on-duty.

2) "Principled and highly proficient. She is Starfleet"? Seriously? Let me post this and see if anyone reading it would even remotely believer the character of Erica Ortegas fits the qualities listed therein:

From TaskAndPurpose.com:

Becoming a master helmsman is no joke: it takes hundreds of hours of hands-on training both in the classroom and behind the wheel to become fully qualified. Once qualified, a master helmsman can steer the ship through challenging situations, such as pulling in and out of port, transiting a strait, sailing through rough waters, or executing a sea-and-anchor detail, an all-hands effort for getting a ship away from a pier and out to sea.


While deck seamen and quartermasters man the wheel as helmsmen, master helmsmen like Coughlin take over when the steering gets tricky. In other words, they’re like your mom when you need to parallel park the family minivan. The master helmsman also has a deep understanding of the different components that go into driving the ship.


“Any time the navigation team thinks it’s going to be a difficult sea state, we’ll come up,” said Coughlin. “When the ship is most likely to crash, that’s when we’re driving to keep the boat safe.”


Coughlin is one of only four sailors among the 5,000 aboard the Theodore Roosevelt who, as master helmsmen, are trusted to steer the ship through such conditions. The rarity of the qualification makes it a point of pride.

More: Meet the helmsmen, the Navy ship drivers just barely out of high school

Now, seeing as Starfleet follows rank, protocol and discipline (or is supposed to in some sense) as the old "wet navies" of Earth (and others), how can Ms. Navia back up her claim concerning her character thus far?

Not a hope, at this point. I cannot see Ortegas passing the classroom portion, let alone any of the practical exercises without seriously bringing down the wrath of instructors as well as upper-level Academy admin of any capacity.

3) "The best **** pilot"; incorrect position aside, she's mostly doing what she's told to do, after the Captain having to endure her sarcasm, questioning orders, borderline insubordination, and flat out idiocy. Her "professionalism" is non-existent, and any serious skipper (fictional or real navy) would never trust her with a vessel that cost more than the lifetime pay of a hundred of her could ever make.

4) "& a woman with a head-turning haircut"; Sorry, that dog won't hunt either:

"Like men, the Navy recognizes unique hair textures like curls and waves. They still must minimize scalp exposure."

She looks like she fought a lawnmower, and the lawnmower won.

More: Navy Grooming Standards: Hair, Beard, Mustache, and Nail Regulations - Operation Military Kids

So taking all of this together: Ms. Navia has described her role of Erica Ortegas as an insubordinate individual who does not follow regulations, cannot even describe her MOS appropriately, is actually proud of her unprofessionalism, surly, continually backtalking her CO on active duty, and has demonstrated that she cannot be trusted with the helm station.

Talent is one thing: competence and professionalism is another. Ortegas lacks those at the helm, and Ms. Navia lacks those altogether.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

With a head turning haircut…

As in, what the H… did I just look at?

 

[asalaw]

Let me take these point by point:

1) The helmsman of a capitol military vessel is not a "pilot", but a helmsman. Terminology matters. A pilot might act like that off-duty, but a helmsman is not going to behave that way on-duty.

2) "Principled and highly proficient. She is Starfleet"? Seriously? Let me post this and see if anyone reading it would even remotely believer the character of Erica Ortegas fits the qualities listed therein:

From TaskAndPurpose.com:


More: Meet the helmsmen, the Navy ship drivers just barely out of high school

Now, seeing as Starfleet follows rank, protocol and discipline (or is supposed to in some sense) as the old "wet navies" of Earth (and others), how can Ms. Navia back up her claim concerning her character thus far?

Not a hope, at this point. I cannot see Ortegas passing the classroom portion, let alone any of the practical exercises without seriously bringing down the wrath of instructors as well as upper-level Academy admin of any capacity.

3) "The best **** pilot"; incorrect position aside, she's mostly doing what she's told to do, after the Captain having to endure her sarcasm, questioning orders, borderline insubordination, and flat out idiocy. Her "professionalism" is non-existent, and any serious skipper (fictional or real navy) would never trust her with a vessel that cost more than the lifetime pay of a hundred of her could ever make.

4) "& a woman with a head-turning haircut"; Sorry, that dog won't hunt either:

She looks like she fought a lawnmower, and the lawnmower won.

More: Navy Grooming Standards: Hair, Beard, Mustache, and Nail Regulations - Operation Military Kids

So taking all of this together: Ms. Navia has described her role of Erica Ortegas as an insubordinate individual who does not follow regulations, cannot even describe her MOS appropriately, is actually proud of her unprofessionalism, surly, continually backtalking her CO on active duty, and has demonstrated that she cannot be trusted with the helm station.

Talent is one thing: competence and professionalism is another. Ortegas lacks those at the helm, and Ms. Navia lacks those altogether.

I’d call this a mic drop moment, but I’m very opposed to those. Because any damn fool who drops a mic like that has obviously never had to pay for one.