Star Trek: Discovery (2017)

[Captain Dunsel]

OK...so now there are trees and rainstorms on the desert planet of Vulcan because, why not??

“That’s the power of not knowing or respecting your source material people—high fives all around!”

 

[AJK001]

Thank you to everyone who has made my decision NOT watch season 2 easier. I have been going back and forth about it but the more I hear tells me I made the correct decision.

By the way, have they found Spock yet?

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Thank you to everyone who has made my decision NOT watch season 2 easier. I have been going back and forth about it but the more I hear tells me I made the correct decision.

By the way, have they found Spock yet?

Yes...”Let It Be” Spock has been found...and we find out that at the center of his universe is the book “Alice In Wonderland”. We can only hope that his sanity is saved by Michael. Please let it be so.

 

[AJK001]

Yes...”Let It Be” Spock has been found...and we find out that at the center of his universe is the book “Alice In Wonderland”. We can only hope that his sanity is saved by Michael. Please let it be so.

Since I'm not watching it I have to go by reviews and what people are saying about the show but it sounds like they are trying to say is that we have Michael to thank for the Spock we all know and loved in TOS. That is really some revisionist history if true.

 

[Noeland]

Well, the spaceship does run on mushrooms. Sort of.

 

[patrickivan]

It's funny. I was just talking to a friend of mine about ST (it's a smiley face!). She's younger than I am. I've known her for about 10 years, and she is a big Star Trek fan. I was a little surprised how much we both hate the same things about it.

Tilly and her incredibly inappropriate comments and how she's going to be pigeonholed into command roles eventually.

Bringing back a dead character that we barely got to know.

Constant bickering amongst the crew, particularly to senior officers. The lack of the crew gelling in a way that's likable.

Burnham's massive longwinded nonsensical monologues with her ****** head, wide eyes, looking like she's about to cry. In almost every ******* episode.

But we keep watching it. And realized that we keep watching because it's like tolerating that annoying family member that comes over for some holiday.

And Star Trek... Hopefully one day it'll feel like Star Trek and not just some random 80's soap opera set in space.

 

[Noeland]

I think we're looking at Michael in a modified spore drive. Maybe something that exists in the mycellium network, or whatever that world is called. I'm wondering if this might be a person in a suit made so that person can exist in that world without being "attacked" by the little glowy bits the way the doctor was. Because this looks like that world with all the floating glowy stuff. And they look like they might have thier hands on some consoles (that we can't see when that person is projected through time).

 

[Captain Dunsel]

“Tilly is the key to all of this...”

 

[patrickivan]

Tilly death, do us part.

 

[Treadwell]

Ok I definitely liked that "previously on" teaser.

Very little Tilly, so the episode gains many points on that alone.

I've said it elsewhere: If the Angel turns out to be Tilly, I'm FLIPPING THIS TABLE RIGHT THE F OVER

 

[kalkamel]

Yup, that intro gave me chills. Overall a very entertaining episode, except for the flashback to when they were kids. I thought to myself "that's bloody it?'

 

[Treadwell]

Not sure what Talos is going to accomplish when it comes to the accusations against Spock. The trip convinced one person. Is the Federation really going to be impressed by her testimony that a race that can make you see anything they wish you to see showed her the truth?

Also, a suggested slight tweak to the teaser card:

 

[Noeland]

I think that was the best episode of the series so far. I really enjoyed it.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

OK, so I got sucked back into it.

It’s like driving down the freeway and seeing an accident, and not wanting to look in case there was a dead person in the car, but also at the same time wanting to look in case there is a dead person in the car.

My biggest concern now is section 31. In Deep Space 9 it was introduced as a clandestine organization that only the top members of Starfleet even knew existed, but had no say in what it did.

Now suddenly section 31 is one of the driving forces of Starfleet. They seem to have command authority over every ship in the fleet. So much for a clandestine organization that sticks to the shadows.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

NakedMoleRat, it's a different universe from the one we watched from 1966 to 2000. As well as from the one introduced to us in Enterprise and Trek09. This Section 31 is apparently a lot more overt. *shrug*

 

[kalkamel]

Its also nice to see a Kip Thorne/Interstellar--style black hole featured in this episode, although the scale of the shuttlecraft to the black hole looked a bit questionable.

 

[AnubisGuard]

Well, it wasn't a real black hole anyway, being just large enough to obscure the planet. So I'll give them a pass on the size.

 

[patrickivan]

I have to say that I liked The Sound of Thunder and Light and Shadows. They actually felt more Star Trek than most.

An issue I had with The Sound of Thunder, actually a massive issue, was the cinematography. What the **** were they thinking about the floaty camera with weird angles? It was like they put the camera on a boat on the sea. Bobbing up and down during so many scenes. And back and forth drifting from the speaker, and then quickly pull back to the speaker. And the ******* lens flares over and over and over. It was like they hired a 1st year film student who wanted to do something "new" and out of the comfort zone. I've never been sea sick until I watched that *********.

But ya, other than that, (oh and more burnham monologues and yet ANOTHER reference to alice in wonderland), I really liked those episodes. The ship scenes were cool to watch. The back ground scenes and sounds. It all was pretty neat. Light and Shadows should perhaps keeps some of the misogyny of the Vulcan male as part of their culture, to emphasis to use a platform for todays BS way that men STILL treat women. Having Amanda put Sarek in his place so quickly, while fine, doesn't serve the small messages that Star Trek should be carrying. It doesn't have to be blatant, but things like in Journey to Babel where Sarek tells Amanda to "attend me", should be kept. I watched it last night and actually find Sarek from Discovery to be pretty decent precursor to Sarek in Star Trek. He's not as bad as I initially thought.

Anyone hear about the explanation to why they use so many sounds from TNG? The most notable one that stands out is the comm error sound. It doesn't ruin it for me, and no general viewer would know the difference. Just curious.

 

[kalkamel]

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I’ve solved it...

The Red Angel is the retconned “Gorgon” (formerly Melvin Bellli wearing a repurposed shower curtain)

“Hail, hail, fire and snow...
...call the Red Angel, we will go...”