Star Trek Beyond
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KrangPrime
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ST:TMP - boring on all levels.
ST2: TWoK - perfect as perfect can get.
ST3: TSfS - a much needed fun romp after the last movie. still some bite to it.
ST4: TVH - a fitting end to the trilogy.
ST5: TFF - has some GREAT character moments between kirk, spock and mccoy, but largely forgettable with an old alien posing as god.
ST6: TUC - anything was better after trek 5. I like this one.
ST7: G - predictable. Kirk didn't need to die to pass the torch...or at least NOT in the two ways they had in mind. and his last line was terrible. made no sense. 'oh my..'
ST8: FC - fun action romp. can't get much better.
ST9: I - gross aliens, but I liked this one. a nice character piece. fun music, good adventure.
ST10: N - First off, should have been Lore. No excuses. think up some goofy way to bring him back. Evil picard, evil data team up and it wold have been a FAR better movie. Great enterprise crash sequence. no need to kill data off.. that was the entire premise of the movie and they worked backwards. flawed from the start with that.
ST Reboot - It WAS fun and refreshing...but I didn't like the erasing of the movie and TV history. that to me comes off as lazy off the bat. JJ didn't know what to do with star trek, just like feig with ghostbusters, so he turned it into something it wasn't. in this case, a Star Wars clone. no depth..just action.
ST: ID - totally, absolutely pointless. So, Kirk dies this time around, they build the Enterprise B into a war machine about 20 years before they should have been able to, and destroy half of San Fransico as it crashes. yawn, yawn, yawn. I have no real desire to watch this one again.
this new movie seems more of the same. paramount has totally lost any faith from this viewer..especially after ruining the turtles franchise.
ST2: TWoK - perfect as perfect can get.
ST3: TSfS - a much needed fun romp after the last movie. still some bite to it.
ST4: TVH - a fitting end to the trilogy.
ST5: TFF - has some GREAT character moments between kirk, spock and mccoy, but largely forgettable with an old alien posing as god.
ST6: TUC - anything was better after trek 5. I like this one.
ST7: G - predictable. Kirk didn't need to die to pass the torch...or at least NOT in the two ways they had in mind. and his last line was terrible. made no sense. 'oh my..'
ST8: FC - fun action romp. can't get much better.
ST9: I - gross aliens, but I liked this one. a nice character piece. fun music, good adventure.
ST10: N - First off, should have been Lore. No excuses. think up some goofy way to bring him back. Evil picard, evil data team up and it wold have been a FAR better movie. Great enterprise crash sequence. no need to kill data off.. that was the entire premise of the movie and they worked backwards. flawed from the start with that.
ST Reboot - It WAS fun and refreshing...but I didn't like the erasing of the movie and TV history. that to me comes off as lazy off the bat. JJ didn't know what to do with star trek, just like feig with ghostbusters, so he turned it into something it wasn't. in this case, a Star Wars clone. no depth..just action.
ST: ID - totally, absolutely pointless. So, Kirk dies this time around, they build the Enterprise B into a war machine about 20 years before they should have been able to, and destroy half of San Fransico as it crashes. yawn, yawn, yawn. I have no real desire to watch this one again.
this new movie seems more of the same. paramount has totally lost any faith from this viewer..especially after ruining the turtles franchise.
Zombie_61
Master Member
I can just hear the thought process behind that trailer: "Let's string together a bunch of action bits and clever dialogue, and use that crappy Beastie Boys song again. The kids will love it!" :facepalm
I've been watching Star Trek, both the television shows and the movies, since the original series premiered in September of 1966. Some of it I liked, some of it I didn't. But every time I saw the promotional material for whatever the newest project was, it piqued my curiosity and got me interested in seeing what they had come up with. That didn't happen this time. I know this is just a teaser trailer, but I'll wait until I've seen more before I decide whether or not I'm going to spend the time and money to see this one in a theater.
By the way, yes, I know "crappy" and "Beastie Boys" are synonymous.
I've been watching Star Trek, both the television shows and the movies, since the original series premiered in September of 1966. Some of it I liked, some of it I didn't. But every time I saw the promotional material for whatever the newest project was, it piqued my curiosity and got me interested in seeing what they had come up with. That didn't happen this time. I know this is just a teaser trailer, but I'll wait until I've seen more before I decide whether or not I'm going to spend the time and money to see this one in a theater.
By the way, yes, I know "crappy" and "Beastie Boys" are synonymous.
The first two were well within my tolerance levels, and considered "Better than no Trek at all !"
But this one ? Thanks but no thanks. I'll just buy the DVD on the second-hand market eventually.
Saddened beyond further words.
But this one ? Thanks but no thanks. I'll just buy the DVD on the second-hand market eventually.
Saddened beyond further words.
Been asking myself that for the past hour :facepalm
Spread the joy and Show it to the Cat!
Why should we be the only ones perplexed by this! :lol
Why should we be the only ones perplexed by this! :lol
My cat would know exactly what to do, bury it in the litter.
For gawd sake folks, Don't buy a ticket for this. Let it bomb.
Maybe the the new TV series will get a fighting chance to not be in the JJ Verse.
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Mine would whack me upside my head! :lol
The Washington Post is calling it Star Trek: Fast and Furious in space!
The Washington Post is calling it Star Trek: Fast and Furious in space!
glunark
Sr Member
Show me a star trek movie trailer that hasn't had explosions, people fighting, and ships crashing, and then maybe you have a genuine reason to grumble at this one.
The face that we see the enterprise crash and Kirk says we have no ship does not mean the ship is destroyed.
The only facts we can gleam from the trailer regarding the enterprises fate is that it loses at least one nacelle, it has a lot of holes in it, the escape pods jettison, and the saucer comes down on a mountain.
Now if you arent too distracted by the fights, motorbike, and beastie boys, you might get the impression that this planet has a habit of bringing down starships to scrap them, and that there might be a lot of useful bits down there that a genius engineer might be able to use to repair a ship, or even flight of the phoenix style, make a new one, which to me is what the very first scene in the trailer looks like.
Justin Lin is a star trek fan whose last film made a billion and a half dollars, still if you're not happy I guess Stuart Baird might be available.
The face that we see the enterprise crash and Kirk says we have no ship does not mean the ship is destroyed.
The only facts we can gleam from the trailer regarding the enterprises fate is that it loses at least one nacelle, it has a lot of holes in it, the escape pods jettison, and the saucer comes down on a mountain.
Now if you arent too distracted by the fights, motorbike, and beastie boys, you might get the impression that this planet has a habit of bringing down starships to scrap them, and that there might be a lot of useful bits down there that a genius engineer might be able to use to repair a ship, or even flight of the phoenix style, make a new one, which to me is what the very first scene in the trailer looks like.
Justin Lin is a star trek fan whose last film made a billion and a half dollars, still if you're not happy I guess Stuart Baird might be available.
The trailer wasn't awful for me. Not enough to make me stay home.
the last movie was enough to make me stay home for this one. As much as I hate reboots, I can't wait for this garbage to be rebooted away.
Also, someone mentioned discounting the fans as a vocal minority...yes, it's true, the old stalwart fans are a minority...and discounting them is a mistake that has cost the studios millions before. Because although they are minority, they are unique (with Star Wars fans) in that they don't just buy tickets. They buy...Everything. For years. Decades. They are the cash cow that keeps on giving. They still buy TOS crap fifty years later. AND most of us will go see this based on goodwill and nostalgia earned over a decade ago, even if this is a crap fest. Ignoring them is just good old fashioned stupid. Quantifiably so.
the last movie was enough to make me stay home for this one. As much as I hate reboots, I can't wait for this garbage to be rebooted away.
Also, someone mentioned discounting the fans as a vocal minority...yes, it's true, the old stalwart fans are a minority...and discounting them is a mistake that has cost the studios millions before. Because although they are minority, they are unique (with Star Wars fans) in that they don't just buy tickets. They buy...Everything. For years. Decades. They are the cash cow that keeps on giving. They still buy TOS crap fifty years later. AND most of us will go see this based on goodwill and nostalgia earned over a decade ago, even if this is a crap fest. Ignoring them is just good old fashioned stupid. Quantifiably so.
Good vs. Evil does not automatically make a movie an 'action' film. You could have a good vs. evil storyline in a court room drama where the only thing that happens is two people talking. Even stories about revenge don't have to involve any action at all. The action scenes in The Wrath of Khan are not only few and far between, but they're not glorified or portrayed in a 'summer action flick' manner the way JJ's films are. Khan's ambush and the battle in the Mutara Nebula have a suspenseful tone to them that it keeps the audience invested in the moment rather than being a spectacle of visual effects. The 'hand-to-hand' fight between Kirk and David isn't an action scene that elicits any excitement and the phaser fights are, well... not fun at all (Killing a person by accident, committing suicide and vaporizing a bug).
There is so much more going on involving how the characters develop than how one group defeats another with violence and explosions. Saying that it's just an action film doesn't give the film nearly the amount of credit it deserves.
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Some don't get the extra hate over other bad Trek films...
The reboots are just reminders how far away they have gotten from TOS, which of course is what
they based the reboots on. So yes they will get more hate.
The reboots are just reminders how far away they have gotten from TOS, which of course is what
they based the reboots on. So yes they will get more hate.
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