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Original Kirk shows up to undo the terrible and illogical changes that occurred when Nero came back in time. Presto the alternate timeline never happened and JJ Trek ceases to exist...and there was much rejoicing.
 
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They need to have him show up and say "Where am I? Last I knew I was helping Capt. Picard."

I'm really over the whole alternate universe. We need to go back to the main universe with a new show or movie.
 
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...I'm really over the whole alternate universe. We need to go back to the main universe with a new show or movie.
My only real problem with the "alternate timeline" thing is this: They did it so that they wouldn't have to adhere to the previously established canon. "We've wiped the slate clean; now we can tell any story we want to tell." But do they give us something new? No, not really. They screwed with the Enterprise and gave us shiny phasers that look like toys, then dragged previously established characters like Spock (prime), Carol Marcus, and Khan out of the franchise's history. And now rumor has it they're bringing back Kirk (prime). So, what was the point of eliminating the original timeline in the first place? Why couldn't they have left the original timeline in place and told us new stories with new characters within that timeline? Considering the way they keep taking elements from the previously established canon, it seems like they went to a lot of trouble to let people know, "Oh, no, this is an all new Star Trek," for nothing.
 
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:lol I don't think that would happen since Harlen pretty much catcalled what a POS the last Trek movie was but you never know! :lol

If I were JJ and wanted to do a Trek movie for the 50th anniversary, I'd have a serious sit down with Harlan Ellison.

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May the Great bird of the Galaxy bless you! :thumbsup

Original Kirk shows up to undo the terrible and illogical changes that occurred when Nero came back in time. Presto the alternate timeline never happened and JJ Trek ceases to exist...and there was much rejoicing.

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Why do you think he pounded down the Scotch? :D

Wolf in the fold, and, The Lights of Zetar, Scotty was effing CURSED!!

And liking that chick got him killed (temporarily), which I believe would come under "not having a lot of luck with women"
 
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The writers broke that universe with being able to transport halfway across the galaxy. They almost have to reboot it already.
 
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The writers broke that universe with being able to transport halfway across the galaxy. They almost have to reboot it already.

And now they're letting one of the writers direct this one. Just about every franchise over 15 years old now has been butchered and broken by hollywood it seems.
 
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My only real problem with the "alternate timeline" thing is this: They did it so that they wouldn't have to adhere to the previously established canon. "We've wiped the slate clean; now we can tell any story we want to tell." But do they give us something new? No, not really. They screwed with the Enterprise and gave us shiny phasers that look like toys, then dragged previously established characters like Spock (prime), Carol Marcus, and Khan out of the franchise's history. And now rumor has it they're bringing back Kirk (prime). So, what was the point of eliminating the original timeline in the first place? Why couldn't they have left the original timeline in place and told us new stories with new characters within that timeline? Considering the way they keep taking elements from the previously established canon, it seems like they went to a lot of trouble to let people know, "Oh, no, this is an all new Star Trek," for nothing.

I completely agree with this!!!
 
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The impression I get is that everyone making these movies loves working with each other, and Star Trek is simply a means to achieve that end. So who gives a crap about what Star Trek is if everyone is having a good time?
 
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The impression I get is that everyone making these movies loves working with each other, and Star Trek is simply a means to achieve that end. So who gives a crap about what Star Trek is if everyone is having a good time?

Maybe Star Trek fans?
 
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Maybe Star Trek fans?

Even the Star Trek fans working on the film didn't give a crap about the iconic status of it's characters. As a fan who hates half the material the franchise has produced knows that Khan wasn't a character driven to acts of mass genocide simply because anyone who wasn't as awesome as him existed. I know I've driven this point into the ground by now, but how do you portray an iconic and well known adversary in one of the biggest science fiction franchises ever who only takes up one episode and one movie and get that character completely wrong? Let alone retcon the original character to say that Khan was like this the whole time?
 
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Well it won't be Kirk Prime and guess it won't be Spock Prime again either.

More time travel, more "Kirk and Spock are friends!" oriented storyline. I'd thought I'd never say this, but I'm wishing for a bit of Gene's Box where the number one rule is that there should be no conflict between our main characters. I'm getting a little annoyed over this whole "It is their destiny to be great friends" thing.
 
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They need to have him show up and say "Where am I? Last I knew I was helping Capt. Picard."
Actually, the last thing he knew was that he was dying on a scaffold on Veridian III. :D

Speaking of which, I know this is sci-fi and they can pretty much do whatever they want, but it should be interesting to see how they'll bring Kirk back...y'know, considering he's dead and all.
 
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Doesn't sound like he will be playing Kirk Prime only the older self of Chris Pine's not so Prime Kirk. I think I will skip this one entirely in the theater and wait for a rental. Fool me twice shame on you, fool me thrice shame on me.
 
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Speaking of which, I know this is sci-fi and they can pretty much do whatever they want, but it should be interesting to see how they'll bring Kirk back...y'know, considering he's dead and all.

Didn't stop the NuTrek writers from bringing back NuKirk after he died. Just a little squirt of magic blood and you're all better.
 
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Ditto, I'm done with this wave of Trek, and I get to see movies for free. :unsure


Doesn't sound like he will be playing Kirk Prime only the older self of Chris Pine's not so Prime Kirk. I think I will skip this one entirely in the theater and wait for a rental. Fool me twice shame on you, fool me thrice shame on me.
 
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