Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club (PIC HEAVY!)

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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I look forward to that!
Oh, and the paint: this stuff is great. Not only does it dry with a nice finish, the brush strokes tend to flatten out, as well! That, in addition to still being perfectly usable after years of storage, make it a-ok in my book!
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[Atlanthia]

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Well, it's been a hectic few days here, but finally I have managed to do enough to warrant an update!
Firstly, I managed to build the other pilot seat. 29 seperate pieces of shaped card go into each one, before it is sanded into shape and painted.

Secondly, as a few of you have asked me, here are my Alpha action figures. They are actually Star Trek Galaxy action figures that I have sanded all the badges and highlights and hair styles off of, and repainted. I've changed the hair styles and hair colour, too.

I think they look pretty cool! What do you guys think? I am also working on some others in their space suits and I will keep you appraised.

I did find a little time to start on the Eagle spine. I have managed to construct one side, and it is as strong as you like! I have used 6mm dowel with 8mm aluminium tube sections slid over the top and glued into place with resin. Here are a few pics

Well, that does it for this update, I hope you all enjoyed it!
More soon!

 

[robn1]

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The figures look great! I looked at the pics before reading, and I was sure they were S:1999 figures! I was thinking "where do I get 'em from?" :lol

 

[Chrisisall]

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Just an FYI, clapping here. One of my favourite threads in a while! Awesome, guys....thumbsup:thumbsup

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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Very lively update! Two pilot chairs...figures...spine work...splendid!
I am slowly ending up with something of a mental picture of what a monster your Eagle will be! And yes, the spine is looking very nice indeed!
The figures look far better than I was expecting. Of course, that was measuring against my inferior efforts in this area! Well done, they!
My update (if it indeed even warrants the name) will be coming soon. I'm way behind you at this point, I will say. I know the objective here was not to compete per se, but it nonetheless feel like it did in school when the class was taking a test, and how it felt when others were finishing up and was still struggling along behind them! :confused

 

[Atlanthia]

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My update (if it indeed even warrants the name) will be coming soon. I'm way behind you at this point, I will say. I know the objective here was not to compete per se, but it nonetheless feel like it did in school when the class was taking a test, and how it felt when others were finishing up and was still struggling along behind them! :confused

Well, Bob, i think it would be only fair to point out at this juncture that it's all credit to you, that you are progressing as quickly as you are....
Without ever betraying any confidences, I know your current situation and I am proud to know you and have you as my 'build buddy' - your experience in model making, far surpasses mine. Your exactness of detail and much more organised approach, leave me envious, and your dogged determination to continue your build, in difficult circumstances, deserve no less than my complete admiration....
Remember as well that you also go to work every day and that I do not.
All that aside, my friend, the first to finish is not necessarily the best. I guess it will possibly prove to be the epitaph of these builds, once we have both completed them:
Bob wanted to do it all right and Darren wanted to do it all right now. :lol

it nonetheless feel like it did in school when the class was taking a test, and how it felt when others were finishing up and was still struggling along behind them!

Oh, yes, I remember that test...was that the one where you are only permitted one piece of paper to write on and you are supposed to read all the questions thoroughly BEFORE starting to answer any of them? Most people disregard that blatant instruction and start tearing into answering them immediately. then there is Bob.....who feels like he is being left behind by the others around him, but decides to read all the questions like he was told to do. Good job he did because the last question is actually a directive and it says to only write your name at the top of the sheet and put down your pen, and anything else is a fail............Bob passes...
I want to see how YOU build and at YOUR pace, and so do a lot of other members on this forum, right guys?

 

[Atlanthia]

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Thanks Robn1 and Chris. It means a lot to us that you guys take the time to drop in and leave a comment.

We are glad that you appreciate the build

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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To tell the truth, I can see things progressing nicely once beyond this CM interior. It's the vagueness of the design that have been so frustrating! In many respects, it's been a replay of the old 'round peg in the square hole'!
I was at a yard sale yesterday and couldn't help checking out the drinking vessels for sale, wondering if any potential thrusters awaited purchase!:lol
As far as me going to work every day, it's not quite accurate right now, as I am on reduced hours. So, I've got no good excuses for slowness...:behave lol
But as you say, we each move at our own pace, and our unusually warm early spring here has no doubt slowed me down as well. However I hear it's supposed to cool down next week, so that may inspire some productive time at the ol' work bench!

 

[Atlanthia]

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:lol I hear ya! :lol

My wife is insisting I accompany her on a walk every day as a fitness thing. She's absolutely right, of course, but it's darned annoying when you are buried in cutting, gluing, and shaping!!!
I, too, pray for wet weather....:$

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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Then wet weather for us both, we can both hope!!:thumbsup
I have a question regarding color, and how it relates to scale.
I've noticed in the past, at least in some of my videos, that if I show a scene of one of my model towns for example, it seems to "read" more realistically if the color is desaturated a few points. It seems if it's the natural colors they look more like models. I have no intention of making them look particularly convincing, but if you were to take someone who's say, wearing a red shirt and portray that person in a 12" or 6" figure, it seems to me that the original red color will look "too" red for its' size. Is this just my imagination, or is there a real phenomenon here?

 

[Atlanthia]

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Good question, and I think it has a lot to do with distance. A model is basically the creation of something far away, that you can see up close. To see the real thing at the size we build it, would require distance between us and the object. As a painter I realised very early on that, as things became further away, they also became paler/greyer. It's a phenomenon of the atmosphere between us and the object in question being thicker, the further away from it we are. The best example I can think of is fog. Why is it never foggy in the 20 odd feet around us, only beyond that point? I believe that if you view a miniature of an object, you should try to replicate the vibrancy of colour/ or lack thereof that is appropriate to the relative distance. If a church has to be a mile away to appear the same size as your model of it, you should paint it in the same colour tones that it appears to emmanate at that distance. In my personal opinion, it would be a futile exercise to build a 1:1 replica of the statue of Liberty and then try to match the colour from a mile away as, it would be too pale. Equally, it would be foolish to build the replica at, say, 1:100 and match the colour from ten feet away; the colour would be too strong. Therefore, I believe your point to be valid. Colour can be a huge factor in making a model more realistic.
This is all just my personal take on this phenomenon, and not in any way offered as scientific fact.

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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Brilliantly phrased, Darren! Thank you for your thoughtful input. It's something I've thought about when making miniatures before, but you articulated the point better than I ever could have!
Not to get into esoteric concepts here, but since we're talking about scales another thing I've pondered is mass relative to scale. The starship Enterprise, just to pick an example, is I believe according to some sources supposedly weighs 190,000 tons. Now, how would one scale that down to estimate what, say, the plastic AMT kit of said ship weigh relative to its size? Or a model of a car? If a model is 1:32 scale, one couldn't simply divide the weight by 32. If a six foot tall wrestler weighed 250 pounds, a 1:6 plastic figure wouldn't represent his relative weight at 41.6 pounds!
See what keeps me up at night? Some things I just need answers to! lol

 

[deck5]

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Weight depends on volume, which is a cubic measure. Your 1:6 plastic wrestler, in scale pounds, would be 250 pounds/(6^3), or 1.16 pounds. The Enterprise, at 1:535 scale, would be 190000 tons/(535^3), which is 0.00124 tons, or 2.48 pounds.

 

[Atlanthia]

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I'm not even going to attempt to argue with that....:lol

 

[Atlanthia]

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Well, actually, I am going to disagree with that:lol

I don't believe that weight OR volume have any interdependance. two points of reference would be a black hole and a cloud.....it is possible to have almost infinite mass and practically no volume, or the opposite where the volume is exponential, and yet, the corresponding mass is practically negligible in comparison, such as a nebula...

Surely, weight and volume depend totalyl on the materials/elements contained therein and the force of gravity acting upon them? Just my take on it...:$

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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Well, true...however, if the mass/weight of the object were known (i.e. the enterprise or the wrestler) then you can scale it down. Your point would be totally correct in the case of the cloud, for instance.
If we keep this up, we'll get to the 'drop a feather and a hammer at the same height' thing!:lol

Overall, though, this is why I shy away from math in all its forms!!

 

[Atlanthia]

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Me, too....I just say it how I see it and I probably, really, have no idea what the heck I am talking about....:lol. Hence, the disclaimers!

 

[LMFAOSchwarz]

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Disclaimers are a true gift, indeed!:thumbsup

 

[Atlanthia]

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Anyway!!!

How is that AWESOME build of yours progressing? I admit, that today, I have done absolutely nothing except spend some much needed time with my wife....Darn these sunny days!!! :lol

 

[Chrisisall]

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LOL, you guys are quite a team; show us great builds & entertain us all in one.:lol