Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Build Club (PIC HEAVY!)

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  1. Atlanthia

    Atlanthia Sr Member

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    well, here is the next build....

    This time I am building a 52.25 inch Eagle Transporter from the Classic 70's T.V. Series, SPACE 1999.
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    Before anyone shouts it out, I know that the largest studio Eagle was just under 44 inches, but after a lot of research, I found that a 50 inch Eagle would be a better option on many levels. Firstly, at 50 inches, all the dimensions transform beautifully into metric, which allows me to use cheaper materials, such as wooden dowel for the spine etc.. Secondly, I can't ever remember ANYONE having a 50 inch Eagle so, that makes it the biggest to my knowledge.:)
    Thirdly, I already started my build and it is bigger...ahem........:$
    The first two points here are still VERY valid reasons to upscale, so I am going to stick to my guns on this one.

    Before I start, I would like to send a HUGE thanks out to GPS for the incredible blueprints, LMFAOSchwarz for the superb Hi resolution reference pics and also Robn1 for his fantastic offer of Bluray caps if needed. You guys ROCK and this build would not happen without you or, for that matter, this superb forum to post the results on! Enough said! On with the build!

    OK, I identified pretty early on, that there are three parts to this build , that would prove to be the most difficult to acomplish: the command module, the engine bells and the 'spine' which runs down the length of the Eagle. The Command Module doesn't have a single solitary straight line on it and the spine has to be built cheaply but still be strong and durable. As for the Engine bells.....Not a clue at this point! Out of these three, I chose to start on the command Module as, I believe it to be the most difficult part of the build - I am ALL for getting the worst bits done first!

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    I started by drawing out the three 2D images necessary to create a 3D form: Plan, Side elevation and rear elevation. I then transferred these images to card, cut them out and glued them together...

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    I have had to cut and glue the extra pieces onto the flat white area to support the 'cutaway' window appertures.

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    these appertures will structurally support the rest of the command module shell so they have to be sturdy in their construction.

    The next stage was to start the ribbing, which allows me to form surfaces that curve left to right as well as front to back. Once completed, these ribs will receive two layers of papier mache, and a coat of resin, before i apply a thin coat of bondo to smooth it out. The detailing will then be fixed to the smoothed out bondo.
    Here are some shots of the ribbing as it progresses.
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    Those untrimmed ribs really make me think of a huge carcass! It certainly has a very organic feel about it!

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    The ribbing for the point of the nose may not look too pretty but when it is covered, no-one will see it!

    The bottom centre section is also now ribbed and That just leaves the arc behind the windows, on the under section to do.
    I hope that you will enjoy this first installment and that you will all leave a comment to encourage me. I will post again as soon as I have an update and in the meantime here are a couple of shots to leave you with.
    Bye for now and thanks for looking in!

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  2. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Interesting! You've taken a very different approach than I would have thought of trying, but that's what makes it all the more fun! There's also something 'egg-like' about your first image, which seems appropriate at the first stage of a new project aborning.:)
    It's smart to approach this doing the hard parts first. Otherwise, you might be, mentally at least, painting yourself into a corner. I've done this myself a few times!
    I can't wait to see this progress: I'm already wondering how you'll approach the rear thrusters. I've got my own idea of what I'd do, but like I said that's the interesting part, too see how someone else would approach the same thing. Not unlike one band's approach to a remake of a familiar old song, actually!
    Nice start!
     
  3. Atlanthia

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    Thanks Bob! :) Although I would be VERY interested to hear how you would have done it.... I think it would make for a really interesting thread to hear other people's ideas and points of view. :)
     
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  4. LMFAOSchwarz

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    All right, my friend, you asked my opinion, so....:)
    I think I might have tried something like this (I borrowed your picture to illustrate!): my illustration is quick and crude, but the idea is using foam core horizontal vanes to define the shape, and to add strength. Layered cardboard would work well, too, as well as bring down the cost. I'm not saying this way is better by any means! Like I said...just different!
    This is going to be fun!
     
  5. Atlanthia

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    I think your way would have worked just as well, Bob, and thank you for posting it up. It will give anyone that ALSO decides to build this, another option for approaching it. The only issue, with absolute respect to you, is that, in order to set the "L's" that you have, you need to have marker points and a contour of the outer surface at that marker. If someone has state of the art software, that allows them to slice a 3D model at any point, they can achieve that really easily. Unfortunately, I do not...:cry

    That is the sole reason why I went for the construction method that I did. the other issue is that the cutaways that rebate to the windows are not square. While the vertical is actually vertical, the 'flat' of the rebate is not actually flat, but at an angle of some 5 or 6 degrees. i guess I chose the method that I felt would work best for me, bearing in mind that, at the time I was not the proud owner of a set of blueprints....I would LOVE to see you attempt this as well! You've sat on the BP's and Caps for too long! :lol Plus, I would have a Build Buddy!

    P.S. Two more posts!!!
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  6. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Your points are well taken, and absolutely true. But to be honest, one of my model building philosophies is go as low-tech as I can. I never discount the human ability to "eyeball" things like angles and curves! I'll print out blueprints, small decorative labels and things like that, but I generally resort to basic tools and ingenuity. It's just too much fun that way!:)
    I just may attempt an Eagle, it is one of my favorite spacecraft of all time. As far as 50 inches..well, sounds fun...but I know me: if I go that scale, I'll have to fight the temptation to include a cockpit inside. That's one disadvantage of a larger size: more detail is possible! :confused

    P.S.S. One more, you mean!
     
  7. Atlanthia

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    :lol :lol :lol

    I already have plans to put in a cockpit!!! :lol

    Once the shell is finished, as described above, i will be able to remove all the interior structure - just like I did with my Stormtrooper helmet. In goes the cockpit and I would like to do the interior of the POD as well. We will see what time allows...

    Darren
     
  8. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Wow! I'm impressed!
    Maybe you can really impress me (and probably everyone on earth) by actually squeezing in the famous disappearing boarding tube!:lol
     
  9. Atlanthia

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    I WISH!!!! :lol

    Even as a KID, I wondered where that * disappeared to!
    Molecular displacement, I reckon ;)
     
  10. LMFAOSchwarz

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    I guess that's one reason I liked the passenger module with the "boxy" extensions n the side. It seemed so much more plausible with that design that you could fit that tube in there. Unfortunately, they didn't use it that way. Come to think of it, what was the point of that particular design?
    That's a funny thing about the Eagle: the more junk piled on to the design, the heavier and more impractical it should look. But instead it just looks cooler and cooler!
     
  11. Wes R

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    This thing is a beast, some things just need a bigger scale to show off the best.
     
  12. Atlanthia

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    You are SOOO right!!! I just think that the Science pod you mentioned should have been the standard pod. That way, the whole docking issue - Eagle to Eagle would have been solved..
    Thanks, Wes! Yes, I am hoping it will be just THAT - Fangs and all! I have assured the missus that it will be completely modular and can be easily broken down for storage.....oh, *!!!! Like this build isn't going to be complicated enough already, without the added issues of THAT! I never learn......:facepalm
     
  13. LMFAOSchwarz

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    I know how to keep both you AND the missus happy:
    Build your Eagle as planned. For storage, build a launch platform, so when company is coming over (or whatever reason she'd want it out of the way) just activate the lift, so it can be lowered out of sight!:cool
     
  14. Atlanthia

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    :lol :lol :lol
    I can just imagine trying to explain to her the genuine benefits of cutting a five feet by four feet hole in the kitchen floor to install it! :lol
     
  15. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Just tell her that in the event of a roof leak, you'll have good drainage!:lol
     
  16. Atlanthia

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    YOU NUTTER!!!! :lol!
    hey! Happy full membership day!!! 20 posts AND 45 days since you joined!!! If I can't send you a FR by tonight, I will ask a mod to look into it.
     
  17. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Has it been 45 days already?! Time is flying by so quickly, but I wonder how it can still be winter?
    The more I think about having a go at an Eagle, the more I think I'd rather watch you build yours. It could get awfully dull seeing two people building the exact same thing at the exact same time. Unless, of course, since you started at the front..I could start at the back! Or, I could always start with the first model ship I fell in love with as a kid.....
     
  18. Wes R

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    build it into a coffee table, when you have company it folds into the table and then you can pull it up to display.
     
  19. Atlanthia

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    Oooooh!............Love it! you dirty boy, you........:lol!
    That is pure SMUTTINESS!
     
  20. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Sounds like Wes R is onto something, there!

    Hmm..upon thinking, it occurs that the table itself could have simulated lunar features. Coffee, anyone? No problem: just have some custom craters which double as coasters!
     
  21. Atlanthia

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    I do love that whole coffee table thing....do you think the wife would let me bank up 200 weight of cement around it to give that authentic moon dust feel?
     
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  23. Atlanthia

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    Plus the fees of a landscaper.......
     
  24. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Wow, we're really getting off-track here!
    Go build, Atlanthia: build like the wind!!:lol
     
  25. Stormy320

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    I love the Eagle. I will be watching this thread.

    I started building the big one and it got put on the back burner because of a new project.
     
  26. TazMan2000

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    There is some nice feelings of having the biggest Eagle in your possession. Good luck with your build and keep us informed.

    TazMan2000
     
  27. LMFAOSchwarz

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    The more I think about it, the more I think I may join you in this build...:cool
     
  28. Atlanthia

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    That's what I want to hear!!! Go get your cutting mat and ruler! :)
     
  29. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Well, the more I thought about it, the more I realized the Eagle nose cone would be a great "dress rehearsal" for the SHADO interceptor I posted: that thing is a curved-surface nightmare (at least it appears to be)!
    Only problem is, I can't get that viewer to work on my computer, so I may have to use the diagrams I have already, unfortunately.
     
  30. Atlanthia

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    I am certain you will find a way around the issues...so get building! :lol
     
  31. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Yep..and get building, yourself!:behave
     
  32. Atlanthia

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    I've been researching today. loads of measurements etc. I have also been formulating how I am going to make the rocket bells accurately out of card. I think I am nearly there...
     
  33. mado

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    thats a great start,ive always loved the eagle since i was a kid.that is a very clever way of building the nose cone ,i would never of thought of doing it that way.
    i m sure your already know about the eagle forum?.if not heres the link Space 1999 Eagle Transporter Forum - Powered by vBulletin
    lol just seen your a member and posted a thread about your build:facepalm
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  34. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Thus far, it's looking like mine will be 39 inches...
     
  35. Atlanthia

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    Bob, five more inches aren't going to bust anyone's b*lls...make it a studio scale 44 inch.... Do as you're told for once in your life, you naughty boy!!! :lol
     
  36. LMFAOSchwarz

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    I'm sure that if I were inclined towards mathematics, I could probably go on about how an extra 5 inches would increase the surface area by 21% , or some such. I've already given some thought as to how I'll approach the tanks in the back (the ones attached to the thrusters)...but maybe, just maybe...I'll reconsider the size!:confused
    Besides, you scaled yours according to the metric system: you're probably trying to handicap my efforts on purpose, like a race driver letting air out of a competitor's tires at the starting gate!:lol
     
  37. Atlanthia

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    :lol :lol :lol

    But I scaled mine UP not down!!!

    It is really weird but, at 44inches, the conversion rates of the measurements between metric and imperial are absolutely awful!!!! At 52.25 inches, it all falls beautifully into place. Every measurement is to a full cm or exactly to a half cm. mathematics was never my top subject, either!!! :$
     
  38. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Back in the 70's when I was first building stuff, I always used the metric system for my models. It could convert so easily into any scale, and the math could be done in an instant in your head. Coming from a carpentry-related family, it was always 7/16th's this, and 19/32nd's that..it drove me crazy.
    Also, here in the states at that time, the schools seemed to push the idea that we were going to be converting to metric in the future. Yeah...that happened.
    I'll do some re-computing here and see what I come up with.
     
  39. Atlanthia

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    In all seriousness, you do it the size that feels right for you, mate :)

    Just get it started!!! :lol
     
  40. dbhs

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    Awesome work on this so far. I'm looking forward to seeing how the papier mache works over this.
     
  41. LMFAOSchwarz

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    I'm always leery of using papier mache on anything, at least anything small-scale. The last job I did with it was making a 5 ft. long peanut shell (don't ask lol) which came out quite well, but only because of the size. Anything smaller would've ended up looking like an oblong potato or something!
    Having said that, from perusing your stormtrooper helmet thread, I must say, A, that you have a phenomenal grasp of three-dimensional spaces. So I'm more confident in you pulling this off than would I. :confused
     
  42. Atlanthia

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    Thank,you, Bob. But i think you are selling yourself short. The only reason I am building the command module is down to an issue of cost. The resin CM for the 44" model, if you can get one, is double the budget that I am allowing for the whole build! The papier mâché all depends on the size of the pieces you put on. I use them as small thin strips as they go on nice and flat. You will see exactly what I mean tomorrow, when I post an update
     
  43. Chrisisall

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    I wish I had a model of it today... * the loss in moves!:angry
     
  44. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Oh, I know: costs can quickly spiral out of control! I'm cost-conscious, as are you. And like you've said (here or elsewhere) there is no reason whatsoever that decent-looking builds can't be done on a shoestring budget. I must say, though, that I'm going to have to pick up some ping-pong balls soon. I'm hoping that's my most extravagant purchase for this build! ;)
     
  45. Chrisisall

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    There's a built kit from 1975 on eBay now- I'm so tempted to get it to work on, but I'm short on coin...
     
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  46. LMFAOSchwarz

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    I think I had that one once upon a time. I have no idea what happened to it. maybe it, also, was lost in a move...
    I've thought about building one for a long time, but never took the thought any farther. Then this Atlanthia guy came along.... :unsure
     
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  47. Atlanthia

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    Guys, you both need to edit your last posts and remove the actual link to the Ebay auction. I believe that it's against the rules to put up links to an actual auction outside of the junkyard. :)
     
  48. LMFAOSchwarz

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    Thanks.
     
  49. Chrisisall

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    Wow, stupid me, I wasn't thinking of it as a link to an auction, just an example of what was out there.:facepalm
     
  50. xaoslord

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    The Eagle was a favorite of mine growing up. I had several models and even had the Mattel one. Looking forward to watching this!
     

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