Sideshow 1:1 Boba Fett Bust

[SpideyFett]

I think GBH's point was..that the preverbal "bar" has been raised, and to present This as anything less is well, just sad.

They (Sideshow) can do better...and they know it.

 

[SingleSeat]

ehh, just saying that obviously they've just got to make a buck and they don't have all the time in the world to do it, that's all. Only their sales, or lack thereof, will be the test for them. But the "bar" would be GBH's opinion, and if the Fett you painted strikes a chord with him, I've got no beef with that either.

*didn't understand what you mean by sad... what is sad? The Sideshow product? I thought it was being presented as less than a motivated fan-made effort..?

 

[stormtrooperguy]

I suspect that part of the reason it is getting bashed so bad is that MR proved that a decent, mass produced/commercial helmet paintup was possible.

While the MR isn't in the same league as many fan made works, it really seemed to me a sincere effort at getting the look right.

The fact that this seems to have inherited MR's biggest failing while not incorporating any of the good parts is a bummer to me.

 

[chuckyAPP]

I am a member of the Dented Helmet Forum and I am almost done making my full size Boba Fett and I can ettest to the hard work and money this task employs. I can almost sympathize with Side Show Collectibles and can attest to the endless hours it takes to meticulously paint all the scratches and paint applications it takes to pain the ESB/SE helmet. What I cant forgive is their complete lack and disregard for the accuracy of a piece, They did it with the 1/4 scale premium format Fett- the helmet was was off in terms of shape - and now with the full size bust they make a tapered visor. I could justify buying one and repainting it to my standards but it would be way too much work to correct the visor as well as the chest armor because its disproportionately too large. This piece is a slap in the face at the Star Wars collectors.Wake up and do some research Side Show, its not that difficult, I can do it.

 

[SpideyFett]

I suspect that part of the reason it is getting bashed so bad is that MR proved that a decent, mass produced/commercial helmet paintup was possible.

It can totally be redone, as MR did it.. or at least 20-30% better then what they have shown so far... agreed.

 

[chuckyAPP]

It can totally be redone, as MR did it.. or at least 20-30% better then what they have shown so far... agreed.

They should only do it if they can get YOU to paint all of them, then Id be satisfied

 

[SingleSeat]

There's no way they could make the helmet wearable. It would then infringe on EFX's license.

How so...do you have any points of clarity to offer on eFX's license as it applies to closed MR product lines?

 

[lonepigeon]

How so...do you have any points of clarity to offer on eFX's license as it applies to closed MR product lines?

Simple.
EFX has the SW replica prop license including helmets. MR's previous product has no bearing on the license. They've already reproduced the MR Stormtrooper.

Sideshow doesn't have a SW prop or costume license so they can't make a wearable helmet.

 

[Star Wars Helmets]

it actually gets more complicated when you throw Rubies and Museum Replicas into the mix - and the lines that separate th companies licenses become quite vague and open to interpretation.

As Lonepigeon said, SSC have to make non-wearable pieces
- eFX can make helmets, but they are intended as "collectible pieces" for display only, since
- Rubies has the "low end" costuming license, and
- Museum Replicas has the "high end" license

:wacko:wacko:wacko:wacko

Hence the confusion when MR made the cheap CE stormtrooper helmet. As one of the license stipulations it had to retail at more than the "threshold price" that would have edged it into Rubies territory.

IIRC there was a similar issue with MR/Hasbro over replica lightsabers (with blades), with price again initially setting the limitations of the two licenses. Of course thats not a problem now since Hasbro acquired the rights to the MR FX sabers (and presumably agreed a new deal with LFL)

It gets even more complicated when LFL in the past has split rights into separate areas dependent on whether they are "characters" or not. Hence C-3PO and Darth Vader were deemed "Characters", whereas Stormtrooopers, Biker Scouts and TIE Pilots were not.

Then there's the territory issue that gave us Altmann's - it just goes on...

Basically its a neat way for LFL to sell what are effectively overlapping rights to a number of different companies.

Cheers

Jez

 

[Skyler101]

Well, at least the bust proves a theory that was bantered around for years...
... Boba Fett was really a droid!!!

Look at the base! He can plug straight into a probe droids body with that thing!

 

[lonepigeon]

Look at the base! He can plug straight into a probe droids body with that thing!

I HATE that base. Sideshow uses in on all their SW lifesize busts and it just looks like a probe droid body. WAY too complicated and it draws too much attention to itself.

 

[UKscout]

thanks for posting the pics jez, nothing against Sideshow but I don't like the look of this boba bust, still think MR did a good job on the ESB lid

I would rather put together my own boba bust from the costume I did han buy this for my collection, would be good to see someone pull off a decent scout lid :love

 

[Slave1]

I actually kind of liked the SS 1:1 bust matching bases. Emphasis on kind of.

I think Legends in 3D did better busts, with bases that matched the character, hence the Emperor had an ROTJ Death Star throne room thing going on, and Greedo had a cantina thing going on.

I mentioned on TDH I liked the Legends Fett bust better also. Inaccuracies abound on that as well, but it's just got a more asthetic appeal for me, and even has a hunk of jetpack on the back.

I've always agreed with what Singleseat is saying. The Fett related props are above all others in intricacy and detail. All you can hope to do is get close. To expect that Sideshow would get it right is expecting too much.

I also said on TDH, I'm glad this thing doesn't look too good, 'cause then I'd have to buy it. Yeah, I said it, I'm glad it sucks. :lol

 

[Tom1971]

Why has the tapered visor been accepted since no fett halmet has ever had it????? Master Replicas and now this.

 

[Slave1]

Master replicas scanned Prepro v3 helmet, not actually the ESB helmet, and when they scanned it, I guess the visor was not set in properly or whatever, but that's the image that was recorded on computer, so that's what MR thought it should look like.

The fact that now another entity has put the pinch in theirs is perfect to illustrate my long standing point that you should never attempt to replicate a replica, because then you perpetuate any mistakes as well as adding more of your own.

I've seen a lot of people use pictorial reference of replicas as the basis for their own replicas, rather than try to look at the pictorial reference of the actual item. Eventually people take things for granted as being correct.

Why has the tapered visor been accepted since no fett halmet has ever had it????? Master Replicas and now this.

 

[Tom1971]

Master replicas scanned Prepro v3 helmet, not actually the ESB helmet, and when they scanned it, I guess the visor was not set in properly or whatever, but that's the image that was recorded on computer, so that's what MR thought it should look like.

The fact that now another entity has put the pinch in theirs is perfect to illustrate my long standing point that you should never attempt to replicate a replica, because then you perpetuate any mistakes as well as adding more of your own.

I've seen a lot of people use pictorial reference of replicas as the basis for their own replicas, rather than try to look at the pictorial reference of the actual item. Eventually people take things for granted as being correct.

Yeah but these people apparently never looked at a single pic of the actual costume. I was really suprised anyone bought it considering how bad it looked. I have never scene any picture of a Boba Fett helmet that had that visor problem and sadly I have looked at thousands.

It's not a question of a nit picky tiny tiny problem. It's a real big. obvious mistake. I'm just amazed especially considering the outrages prices being asked for these things by the scum that is MR, EFX, and Sideshow. I'm sorry but these guys are so overpriced and it really ticks me off. This should not be a hobby where only the well off can buy good quality accurate stuff. And sadly that is from a guy who owns 7 MR sabers but it really ticked me off when I had to give them my money.

Sideshow needs to fix the Boba Helmet and that horrible Vader bust.

Sorry, in that kind of mood.

 

[Tom1971]

One last note. Buy a Helmet from a great prop maker instead. It's better and will actually be wearable. I have a Bobamaker helmet and it is perfect. There are several guys who make great helmets that are a thousand times better than this piece of junk.

Okay, I'm really done this time

 

[Slave1]

There are several guys who make great helmets that are a thousand times better than this piece of junk.

True, but a lot of people lack the skills to paint anything comparable to the real helmet, or even in the ballpark, and therefore they rely on what is available to the public.

 

[Tom1971]

True, but a lot of people lack the skills to paint anything comparable to the real helmet, or even in the ballpark, and therefore they rely on what is available to the public.

True, but Boba really is not that hard contrary to popular belief. With a little practice and $20 worth of stuff, some torn sponges and pictures you could learn.

I just wish people would not pay for such overpriced stuff.

I actually am embarrassed that I spent what I did on my MR stuff.

How much was the "studio scale" falcon?? I would never pay that to MR for a 32" model even if I won a 100,000,000 lottery. And there is no bigger Falcon fan than me. Took 10 years to get my Toys R Us Falcon but I got it. And it did not cost a quarter as much as MR model. Plus it's 6'

 

[slave1pilot]

True, but Boba really is not that hard contrary to popular belief. With a little practice and $20 worth of stuff, some torn sponges and pictures you could learn.

lollol:lol