propologist
Sr Member
Exactly,
Why don't the sculptors come here for advise from the masters ( not me) so they can get honest thoughts BEFORE producing it...hummm
Sideshow 1:1 Boba Fett Bust
- Thread starter Star Wars Helmets
- Start date
Exactly,
Why don't the sculptors come here for advise from the masters ( not me) so they can get honest thoughts BEFORE producing it...hummm
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Thats exactly right. So long as its "roughly" accurate the vast majority of people are entirely happy. Ahhh, ignorance is bliss!
Joking aside I can understand why people do get so angry. SSC's "goggle-eyed" 3PO lifesize was pretty-darn frustrating
Cheers
Jez
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Well... most of the time they have to sculpt what they are told, regardless of accuracy. Also... the sculptors are likely within the hobby - or at least the sculpting/model kit hobby.
Why a company chooses to NOT get the prop hobbyists involved is anyones guess, but likely to keep things within the company and the old saying of too many chefs in the kitchen.
DeLucks Designs
Well-Known Member
That's for the casual collector with $$ to spare, not the serious collector.
saxe coburg
Sr Member
it is over priced poop... :unsure
defstartrooper
Sr Member
I can understand this argument to a degree Jez but i can't help thinking that those majority of people who don't see the innacuracies would be equally happy with something closer to accurate.
I can understand the argument that the general public want something that looks decent and not something shoddily built like many original props but they could make some attempt to make a sturdy well built replica that at least cosmetically matches the original.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
That there is the troof. These things are NEVER up to the standards of our community. The people who collect these things never really care that this or that is off. "Hey, it's Boba Fett...cool", and that will be the end of that.
They are NOT designed to please US people. The fact that these things sell is proof enough that they do not care what we, the replica community, think.
This is not the Fett you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
I agree with you 100%. Irrespective of its inaccuracies it also annoys the hell outta me that they painted the visor black and theyve made the helmet unwearable.
Cheers
Jez
lonepigeon
Master Member
There's no way they could make the helmet wearable. It would then infringe on EFX's license.
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
I know thats the reason. I just think it'd be crazy having a helmet sitting on a bust like that and not being able to wear it. Thats the kind of thing that annoys even the "fair-weathered" collectors
Cheers
Jez
I am just trying to imagine that in Philip Wise's collection, since he seems to collect virtually one of EVERYTHING from Star Wars... Compared to the life-size figure members of the Dented Helmet created for him, I would be embarrassed to display this piece....
rkpetersen
Sr Member
No kidding. For thousands of dollars, their full size pieces should be nearly perfect in terms of accuracy. Their full size R2D2 is a POS too. (Yes unfortunately I have one.):angry
Cpl Potter
Sr Member
I have 950 into this piece , as picture ( with jetpack ( on the floor ) , al painting done by myself . and i think it blows sideshows away imho
helm fp budjet 160
vest cuckback 100
armor trade = free color and backpiece fp used 120
shoulder bells bobamaker used 50
wookie braids and cape woodman 75
girth 40 used
jetpack mow 300
jetpack harness fettdad 40
jetpaclk hooks (on the way from uk 25
helmet padding ebay 25..
helm fp budjet 160
vest cuckback 100
armor trade = free color and backpiece fp used 120
shoulder bells bobamaker used 50
wookie braids and cape woodman 75
girth 40 used
jetpack mow 300
jetpack harness fettdad 40
jetpaclk hooks (on the way from uk 25
helmet padding ebay 25..
That looks great VRH!! I am trying to get one of those FP helmets for a build like yours, but i think i want arms. I just joined TDH to learn about all the parts to one of these guys. I was going to get the SS piece if it was $600-700. At $800 i will spend a little more and do it right.
SingleSeat
Well-Known Member
I would agree that it's pretty bad, but also of note is that if anyone said as much for a forum member's work that'd be a bannin'. All too easy to pick on the corporate entity (*I don't work for Sideshow). I also can't pretend to know Sideshow's priorities. However, the list of individual efforts that are on par with this Sideshow bust is without end as if criticizing an individual is offensive but criticizing a manufactured product is somehow victimless. Show me something with a degree of accuracy from any website, and I'll show you a hundred more that are pure garbage that the owner is grinning from ear to ear to own. The happiness of the owner is the decision point, not any critique here. I'm happy for whomever this makes happy. Boba Fett is quite an inspirational character however you choose to enjoy it.
SpideyFett
Well-Known Member
You are 100% right, I think he wouldn't even put it out...here's the ESB Fett we did for Philip Wise: http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/fett-pw/
I would actually agree with this statement... well said.
But with that being said... they really need to reconsider repainting this thing if they plan to charge that much... :thumbsup It needs to be "somewhat accurate", and the paint/paint color and the "paint application" would be an easy fix.
Alex
Last edited:
After witnessing first hand the level of work done by Spideyfett for Rebel Scum's Phillip Wise on his ESB Fett display, I think the accuracy and expectation level has been established for extreme Fett enthusiasts, which I think at the $800 dollar price tag, this new piece from Side Show Collectibles now falls into that category. Attached is an example of the accuracy, quality and level of artistry done by Spideyfett (A.K.A. Alex) that I would expect SSC to at least come close too!
Eee gods that's pretty . . .
SingleSeat
Well-Known Member
Well, Boba Fett is exactly that character that was so extremely individualized that whether the attempt is private or that of a well-funded manufacturer, duplicating it can consume every bit of focus to the exclusion of all else in this hobby and still not result in 99% accuracy. It can't be surprising when anyone falls short of it. All of us can be criticized for some aspect of Fett work. The above example has its flaws if you know what you're looking at...it just depends on what level you want to perceive it and, again, what you are happy with (and if it satisfies your inspiration from this character). Even if you could get to 100% accuracy, the list of people that might recognize or understand what you've done is extremely short. The rest will are just likely to sit there looking like this guy => :confused and still say "look it's Boba Fett" despite their fifteen hundred posts on an internet forum.
With subjects like stormtroopers or Vader (no offense, because they are iconic) I look at them as child's play compared to the challenges I face in replicating Fett props. Maybe an R2 replica could take as much effort, but even then, I doubt it simply because of the shapes and materials (and equipment) of which such a prop is composed. You can still get an R2 pretty darn close – a lot closer than you can make a Fett look like a real Fett. That doesn't mean the workload isn't high, just that it's all relative. And I'm really talking about the purest form of replicating the original prop down to the millimeter and material without inserting an array of fan-based ideas or creative license. Fett brings in every material, every flavor of mechanical know-how, every kind of stylistic influence, years of practically scientific research, years of hunting rare unknown items, and the hands that built it span from the UK to California, not to mention the purely free-handed artistry that is virtually impossible to solve. Oh, and it was created 30+ years ago by people who didn't think it would be a big deal to remember at the time. That's why Vader is black, Stormtroopers are white, lightsabers are shiny, and Boba Fett is heads and shoulders above them as the greatest challenge of all. Some people have been chasing this character for the better part of ten years and still aren't there yet. And without sitting down with a real prop in one hand, an airbrush in the other, and a caliper between them, no one will ever get to 99%. One original Fett painter from 1978 once reminded me, "you will never be able to do it exactly. I can't even do it again. It will always have some of you in it."
Therefore, I'll kiddingly joust with you GBH, and say that the expectation level has already been seen on screen and we still aren't there after all these years. All you can do is give it your best shot. I guess Sideshow just doesn't have the time to focus as intently, so they have to settle for less.
With subjects like stormtroopers or Vader (no offense, because they are iconic) I look at them as child's play compared to the challenges I face in replicating Fett props. Maybe an R2 replica could take as much effort, but even then, I doubt it simply because of the shapes and materials (and equipment) of which such a prop is composed. You can still get an R2 pretty darn close – a lot closer than you can make a Fett look like a real Fett. That doesn't mean the workload isn't high, just that it's all relative. And I'm really talking about the purest form of replicating the original prop down to the millimeter and material without inserting an array of fan-based ideas or creative license. Fett brings in every material, every flavor of mechanical know-how, every kind of stylistic influence, years of practically scientific research, years of hunting rare unknown items, and the hands that built it span from the UK to California, not to mention the purely free-handed artistry that is virtually impossible to solve. Oh, and it was created 30+ years ago by people who didn't think it would be a big deal to remember at the time. That's why Vader is black, Stormtroopers are white, lightsabers are shiny, and Boba Fett is heads and shoulders above them as the greatest challenge of all. Some people have been chasing this character for the better part of ten years and still aren't there yet. And without sitting down with a real prop in one hand, an airbrush in the other, and a caliper between them, no one will ever get to 99%. One original Fett painter from 1978 once reminded me, "you will never be able to do it exactly. I can't even do it again. It will always have some of you in it."
Therefore, I'll kiddingly joust with you GBH, and say that the expectation level has already been seen on screen and we still aren't there after all these years. All you can do is give it your best shot. I guess Sideshow just doesn't have the time to focus as intently, so they have to settle for less.
Similar threads
