SDS HDPE TK faceplate......

[GINO]

Not everyone agrees with AA and I know that, but I DON'T HAVE TO KEEP HEARING IT....

But you and others posting here do seem to agree with him and defend him as well.
I think that if AA is allowed to be mentioned here at all, it should be mandatory that people be reminded of just exactly what he did.


AA lied by taking credit for sculpting the original trooper helmet (from a deceased sculptor who isn't around anymore to defend herself no less). - FACT

AA lied about sculpting the original trooper armor when it was later proven that it was Brian Muir. - FACT

AA recast people's armor from this community so that he could sell it as his own (even some of the fan scratch built pieces). - FACT


How can any of you here defending him not renounce him after knowing the above facts? Have you no decency?

I don't believe it is in the community's best interest to allow his product to continue to be promoted after all we've learned about him. It only serves to allow him to continue to take advantage of the unknowing.


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[Onigiri]

I do not disagree with your assesment of AAs character Gino but where in this thread is anyone promoting AAs product? Sskunky found a clear trooper faceplate in the shop and asked if he could paint it and showed a picture here. Youre saying Sskunky is promoting AAs product and nowhere in this thread is anything being promoted...thats an assumption or a leap on your part. Do you really think that we dont know what AA did? Do you think we need you to remind us? Im one of the biggest AA detractors out there but youre not the stormtrooper and Vader police. This isnt a for sale thread..hell, its not even a finished helmet thread...its an "I found a faceplate in the corner of a shop and painted it" thread.

 

[GINO]

By him creating a thread showing off his AA piece, is in essence promoting AA.


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[sskunky]

By him creating a thread showing off his AA piece, is in essence promoting AA.


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Gino,
Give it rest mate.
I fully understand your stance on the AA thing, I am not promoting anything. As Don says I found this face plate and painted it and thought some guys here would like to see it. This isn't a debate on whats right and whats wrong. it is merely a show off thread.
And as I have pointed out this is all sour grapes on a deal gone bad between you and AA.
I really don't want to carry this slagging match on any further. As a an Artisan I hold you in the highest degree, you produce some of the best replica props I have seen but please let it rest.
As far as I know AA isn't selling or going to sell HDPE helmets so this or any future helmet I Get in HDPE will be mine and no one elses.( not confirmed)
kind regards,
Mark.

 

[defstartrooper]

Just showing it off yeah, and hinting at AA possibly producing helmets in HDPE, what's the bets in a few months we see HDPE helmets for sale on his site ?
Seems this is more a teaser/feeling the market out thread than a showoff one.
Just like you were just doing him a favour by lending him E11 parts, which he is now making a profit off, like it or not you are helping AA to make money.

And as much as you say everyone is entitled to an opinion you also say at what AA might have done like there is some doubt, there isn't !
All the points raised against him have been proven in court.

PS i have no affiliation with GINO nor am i in competition with AA.

 

[voice in the crowd]

AA says he may have tracked down some of the KHAKI colour HDPE he used in the 70's so I have my fingers crossed that he gets some so I can get a full helmet and paint it up with real scratches, chips and all.

sskunky as you know getting a trooper lid made from the original material in the original colour is a holy grail of any replica stormtrooper collector. The fact AA has made a faceplate in HDPE and is looking for the original colour says he will be trying to make these for sale.

This show off thread with the information contained in your first post is quite frankly a thinly veiled heads up for the next product SDS will be running. Same as your promotion for the SDS E-11.

Onigiri sskunky may not have started the negativity but seriously there is a way to speak to people on a public forum.

Chris

PS I have no affiliation with GINO nor am I in competition with AA. I also try to speak to people on public forums the same civil way I would speak to them if I was sitting in the same room as them.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Just showing it off yeah, and hinting at AA possibly producing helmets in HDPE, what's the bets in a few months we see HDPE helmets for sale on his site ?
Seems this is more a teaser/feeling the market out thread than a showoff one.
Just like you were just doing him a favour by lending him E11 parts, which he is now making a profit off, like it or not you are helping AA to make money.

And as much as you say everyone is entitled to an opinion you also say at what AA might have done like there is some doubt, there isn't !
All the points raised against him have been proven in court.

PS i have no affiliation with GINO nor am i in competition with AA.

I actually shed a tear here. You hit all of the good points. It needed a QFE.

 

[sskunky]

He wasn't looking for the original colour til I asked him to. Again your views are assumption, they mean nothing.......
Your way and others to me are aggressive so expect me to not retalliate is just nieve...

Again I ask you to not post here, if you have something constructive to say and want to start your own thread go ahead. But please stop hijacking mine...

 

[sskunky]

please read post #15.
I make myself quite clear there......
Defstartrooper, I haven't hinted at anything again your assumption.....
Also I would like to add that if AA does start producing HDPE helmets it's only because he has had many requests, not from my doing so.
If I was the only one asking there wouldn't be much of a business would there?

 

[Onigiri]

Did you read Ginos first post???? Are you kidding me? Was that any way to speak to someone on a forum??? You seem rather biased as to who can get away with what and quite frankly theres a LOT of people here who are sick and tired of the same cast of characters derailing every trooper and Vader thread with their own agendas. Im one of those people. Its always the same group(s) without exception.
I truly hope this isnt a heads up thread for a future AA offering because I will never give AA a cent of my money but all there is NOW is supposition and hijacking someones thread because of what you think may happen sometime down the road isnt cool.
Im sick and tired of all of you people using these threads to air your own personal vendettas and trying to couch it in some pretense of being morally or technically superior to the other side. Its always the same freakin people without fail.
Gino...you wont stand for this sort of nonsense on your board so why participate in it on someone else's board. You have your forum to speak and do as you please unchallenged as do those who share your viewpoint.
This isnt a once in a while thing either...its every single freakin Vader or Trooper thread that pops up and its always the same two select groups of people. Man, you folks take the fun out of this hobby...maybe we need to put Troopers and Vader in the same category as politics and religion and ban the discussions altogether. This is why we can never allow the countries of Ginostan and Propdenastan to have nuclear capability.

 

[sskunky]

Did you read Ginos first post???? Are you kidding me? Was that any way to speak to someone on a forum??? You seem rather biased as to who can get away with what and quite frankly theres a LOT of people here who are sick and tired of the same cast of characters derailing every trooper and Vader thread with their own agendas. Im one of those people. Its always the same group(s) without exception.
I truly hope this isnt a heads up thread for a future AA offering because I will never give AA a cent of my money but all there is NOW is supposition and hijacking someones thread because of what you think may happen sometime down the road isnt cool.
Im sick and tired of all of you people using these threads to air your own personal vendettas and trying to couch it in some pretense of being morally or technically superior to the other side. Its always the same freakin people without fail.
Gino...you wont stand for this sort of nonsense on your board so why participate in it on someone else's board. You have your forum to speak and do as you please unchallenged as do those who share your viewpoint.
This isnt a once in a while thing either...its every single freakin Vader or Trooper thread that pops up and its always the same two select groups of people. Man, you folks take the fun out of this hobby...maybe we need to put Troopers and Vader in the same category as politics and religion and ban the discussions altogether. This is why we can never allow the countries of Ginostan and Propdenastan to have nuclear capability.

Thanks Don,
I appreciate that......
Mark..

 

[defstartrooper]

Also I would like to add that if AA does start producing HDPE helmets it's only because he has had many requests, not from my doing so.

Nice little disclaimer, see it's phrases like that which get the old spidey sense tingling.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

This is why we can never allow the countries of Ginostan and Propdenastan to have nuclear capability.

I almost spit up my soda....jerk!

You're right though, Oni. Sskuny, if this is TRULY just a show off thread and not a pre-emptive "Lookit what AA has coming down the pipe!" thread, then I apologize.

 

[CSMacLaren]

If sskunky is posting an informational post and some detractors happen to hate Ainsworth, are people now resorting to insinuations and supposition to sskunky's motives to make their suspicions factual?

I'd view that as a serious character flaw.

 

[Davy Jones]

Nobody's perfect Mac.
The point here is how do you show off a product made by a recasting, lying, and detrimental character without promoting his product?

You cant.

This does sound like a bit of a "coming soon" sort of thread and thats part of the problem. Most people have reasoned AA to be an extremely slimy person and nobody wants to see him able to continue profiting by stealing other people's property.

 

[micdavis]

Like Politics and Religion, all threads on Vader and Troopers should be banned.

 

[CSMacLaren]

Davy,

Doing business with a recasting, lying and detrimental character is basically a person's choice, but I avoid certain characters because I will not value a jerk's helmets over my integrity.

But that's not what we're talking about here. Gone is forum courtesy altogether ("innocent until proven guilty"). Here, I see someone being pelted - to what end? If you pelt someone with enough insinuation, suspicion, will something give way?

What will give away is the forum culture's integrity, and we'll be lowered to "guilty until proven innocent".

If all this is happening because a deal failed to go through, then the issue is not if this is an altruistic act to expose a marketing ploy, is it?

 

[kell]

enough of this. this reminds me so much of a few years ago when Phil/spfx who was banned, and everyone continued to post "look at my new spfx helmet, and by the way its from his new batch of more accurate(tweaked) ones" threads. now granted AA is not a member here for all we know, and he was never banned, but this all stinks the same way. this is ridiculous. :sick

 

[Davy Jones]

Davy,

What will give away is the forum culture's integrity, and we'll be lowered to "guilty until proven innocent".

If all this is happening because a deal failed to go through, then the issue is not if this is an altruistic act to expose a marketing ploy, is it?

No. The forum's integrity will give away when it allows people like AA to be supported by it.

In the real world, people are put in jail when they break the law. It does not matter how nice they are or what sort of things they did for the community.
Now AA has not broken any laws (by a narrow margin owing to incompetent lawyers IMO), and he is a nice bloke by all accounts. But he still is lying to sell his product. That's his "marketing ploy" as you call it.

Now you tell me where Gino comes in to this at all? Your personal bias against him is the only thing I see and you are ignoring the plain simple fact that quite alot of people share the same opinion of AA that Gino has.

So back to square one. How do you show off a product made by a despised person without getting negative feedback?

It would be like me saying Adolf Hitler is my personal hero. Am I entitled to my opinion? Yes. But I would have to assume I would be exposing myself to alot of flak. So I simply wouldnt do it.

So this helmet is another one of those lovely grey areas in the hobby where personal rights are weighed against popular opinion.
The sooner people accept this, the sooner we move on.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Mac, people do not dislike Ainsworth because of any aleged business dealings. People dislike him because he is a liar and a thief. He lied about his involvement in ANH and he stole the credit for Liz Moore's work. THAT is why a lot of folks dislike this guy. So, that said, yeah, we all handle dealings coming from him with a HUGE grain of salt.