Rubies Supreme Stormtrooper

[tuskentrooper]

An "insider" snapped a few pics from a tradeshow this past week:

Although this is probably just the prototype, the material was reportedly so thin you could pinch it with your fingers and bend it. Also note that any time you put armor on a mannequin, it tends to look strange. Continue to discuss...

 

[CGClone]

about what I expected...

the belt doesnt go all the way around?
velcro holds everything together
not shocked by the helmet at all...

 

[defstartrooper]

Bit weird how the inside part of the forearms overlaps the outside part so you can see the velcro easily :rolleyes
As far as the flexible thing i don't think that's a big issue it's not like it's aimed at serious collectors who wan't an accurate display piece, it's a costume and more flex means more comfort as long as it's not prone to tearing or cracking it's ok.

 

[FON]

I think its quite good considering. The only thing I don't like is the moulded in trim (and of course the helmet, which would only be a fill-in).

The way I see it. Rubies could have gone in a completely different direction. Atleast this way its 90% accurate to the ROJ/SE suits.

 

[JoblessPunk]

thats disgusting...

 

[Bobtherocker]

i think it will have the potential to be not too bad a costume if you trick it out a bit.
Lose the lid, strap it properly so it sits on the body better (better than the display anyhoo :wacko)
It'll be nice to see an influx of ROTJ troopers as long as it's modded to meet the 501st requirements and i'll be honest here, it cant look as bad as some of the cleared for action TK's ive seen on my travels.
Anyone know of any ROTJ replica lids doing the rounds? Thats gonna be the hard part right there.

 

[blewis17]

i think it will have the potential to be not too bad a costume if you trick it out a bit.
Lose the lid, strap it properly so it sits on the body better (better than the display anyhoo :wacko)
It'll be nice to see an influx of ROTJ troopers as long as it's modded to meet the 501st requirements and i'll be honest here, it cant look as bad as some of the cleared for action TK's ive seen on my travels.
Anyone know of any ROTJ replica lids doing the rounds? Thats gonna be the hard part right there.

Well, the only LICSENSED ROTJ bucket is the Don Post Classic Action or Don Post Deluxe fiberglass Stormtrooper helmet (both apparently from the same mold). Even then, it's apparently a hybrid helmet, cast from a 1/2 mold of a ROTJ bucket, then flipped to complete the other side. Painted in ANH colors, though.

P.S. I've got a C/A Trooper for sale, if anyone wants one (middle helmet in this pic). Check the JY.

 

[defstartrooper]

Well, the only LICSENSED ROTJ bucket is the Don Post Classic Action or Don Post Deluxe fiberglass Stormtrooper helmet (both apparently from the same mold). Even then, it's apparently a hybrid helmet, cast from a 1/2 mold of a ROTJ bucket, then flipped to complete the other side. Painted in ANH colors, though.

P.S. I've got a C/A Trooper for sale, if anyone wants one (middle helmet in this pic). Check the JY.

Yeah the bucket on the rubies armour is from the same moulds as the old DP CA aswell so same helmet really.
There's a guy been selling resin cast of an ROTJ style helmet on ebay recently but please note he is a banned member and was banned from here for recasting.
There's another member here who owns a production helmet from ROTJ one of the background helmets i believe, i'm pretty sure he's working on moulding it.
I'm more hoping this suit will inspire someone to offer a real quality ROTJ suit, i personally wouldn't ever buy anything by Rubies.

 

[dirtydave]

The shins don't look like they are cast off a original.They look more like FX to me.The rest of the suit look ok,besides the helmet.

 

[Jumpin Jax]

Looks like the same droopy problems they had with their royal guard bucket. Would improve with a little glass and TLC. Not cool for the money, I will admit right now.
JJ

 

[tk1780]

Well I dont think the suit is horrid, for someone who wants to dress as a stormtrooper for a halloween party or something, but yah it will never ever get you into the 501st.

Sameway the rubys clone armor would not get you in either.

I missed the price on this and did not want to go read every page on the topic here, did we find out how much this thing runs for ?

But yah the helmet is bad, horrible, but at least almost the right size. I have longargued we should ax the FX bobble helmet fro mthe 501st since I first got in 5 years back. It is not cannon so there for should not be an approved helmet. I understand years back, thats all we had, but now there are several versions avaliable at decent prices, so no excuse now in my oppion to still have that oversised giant on your head. :rolleyes

Any way, my rant for the day. But yah, this does not look to bad for somone wanting to have some fun as a trooper. I am sure we will see a few of these at Cons over the year, but never in a million years will it be 501st approved. I would like to see the fool who trys to push that issue. :lol

 

[defstartrooper]

Rubies made a clone armour ? i must have missed that.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the 501st do allow " modified " Rubies Vader costumes don't they ?
And i see that they allow the MR CE trooper helmet with mods too, to me this suit is just as close in accuracy to an ROTJ/SE/Tour suit and a lot closer accuracy wise than FX armour is to an ANH/ESB suit.

 

[Skaught]

Heavily modified Vader costumes. I don't know all the required changes, but there is a list somewhere.

Scott

 

[Jumpin Jax]

The price sticker is $800, but like the Vader I imagine it will sell for less on ebay and other dealers, probably around 5-600.

 

[tk1780]

Unles there were some changes to the 501st I am not aware of , no the Rubys vader will not get you into the 501st. That is the most specific of the costumes tht the 501st scrutinizes to no end. Get suited up in it take a picture , send it to the 501st and your costume will be denied.

The only part of the rubys that I think will be permited is the helmet, I think ? And I may be wrong about that. You might also getaway with the under suit as it can be deciving in pictures, but the rest, nope. :thumbsdown

A friend here now a Stomtrooper, had a rubys 501st clone, it was not bad as a get out and do some costuming, but lacked a lot of detail.

And at $800.00 ? WOW ! a little steep at that. I thought maybe $400 or something ? For someone without any skills or time to complete a set of armor I guess it would work, but for an other $-300-400 on top of that they could outfit themselves with the real deal. You can get a set of RT-Mod armor, like whats in my Avatar, for around $700 Canadian with a pre built up helmet. So add the boots $45-80 depending on where you buy them, neck seal same deal $30--55, body suit same $60-150, holster $45, Gun $150-400, gloves $20. Glue velco suspenders odds an ends to build it $100. So on the cheap end you could do it for around $1100, and maybe less depending on where you buy some of the stuff.

Bonus to this !!!! you would get 501st approved easy, if you wanted to join up.

But if all you want to do is put on a costume and run out the door then this might be for you sort of thing. But man thats a sticky price at $800 :sick

 

[chris1748]

Speaking of the Darth vader Rubies , I do not believe that anyone has made a set of armor for ROTS better than Rubies maybe only Fettpride.
Sizewise it is very close and can be modified to look really good . The fiberglass stuff on ebay is way too big and is based on the size of the old trilogy armor.

chris

 

[defstartrooper]

No offence intended to RT but the suits not accurate, it's a nice looking suit but not accurate, my point here isn't to scrutinize any other armour i'm just curious as to what reasons you think this armour would be refused ?
I mean you've said there's no way the 501st would accept this but not given any reason why, it's every bit as accurate looking to it's movie counterpart as many fan suits which are allowed.

 

[Bobtherocker]

What will happen is the people who've always wanted to get a set of stormtrooper armour that arent familiar with the fan made armours available will now be able to get some. These people wont be able to tell the difference between a good kit and a bad one and i'm not sure they'll even know of the 501st.
i cant see that a current member of the 501st who is familiar with all the current armourers would fork out $800 for this when they know they can get fan made stuff of higher quality for less.
i will say however that if FX is acceptable for clearence then i can see no rreason why the rubies, minus the lid and with a bit of tweaking wouldnt get cleared. It really doesnt look that bad and to be fair it looks as flimsy and ill fitting as the movie suits :eek

 

[Jumpin Jax]

i will say however that if FX is acceptable for clearence then i can see no rreason why the rubies, minus the lid and with a bit of tweaking wouldnt get cleared.

Mostly elitest BS based on once loose standards that they don't like being called out on. And dozens of Vaders that blew over 2 grand on their outfits and threw hissy fits when Rubies dropped an OK suit out there for $800 :lol They just find it galling that they acted too soon, so prejudge the outfit because they hate the superior value, work required or not. Bitter recrimination, nothing more.
JJ

 

[CGClone]

Just for the record, being a 501st member myself with a vader and a tk in the arsenal, the Rubies Vader sucks hard. Theres quite a bit about that suit thats horrid. and the only part of it that is ROTS is the shoulders, half the chest box and the shins. The rest is cobbled together. The helmet is a rework of the DP Classic action from ESB/ROTJ styling molds that are pretty horrid.

I think the Rubies suit looks ROTJ-ish. With some mods yea, it will be fine. We need to see more pics and on a a person, walking etc to make a judgement call.

I could care less for the FX armor, so I have no dog in that fight, but bitter recrimination, elitest BS? dont like being called? sure, sounds like an ax to grind. Thats fine, not everyone likes the 501st, and it needs upgrading, GMLs need stricter standards and better CRLS, but that Rubies Vader or TK isnt going to help any either.

the Rubies Vader is less than OK, and the market has shown that.