defstartrooper
Sr Member
Times change the FX was the standard because there weren't as many readily available alternatives but that's not the case now.
Rubies Supreme Stormtrooper
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R2B9
Well-Known Member
I'm just curious to watch the first person denied entry into the 501st wearing a licensed set of that armor. Has anyone thought of the ramifications of that--
"Your armor is not good enough, you need to buy "Brand X" bootleg armor!"
Not wanting to fuel the fire, but it is something to consider...
Remo
Well-Known Member
I thought it was already mentioned that some Vaders were not accepted "right out of the box". So there must already be a few people who've dealed with that already. The cheap Halloween costumes they sell are licensed, but they would not be acceptable. In the end, it's all going to be how good the quality really is on these things. Who knows, we might be surprised.
As for the 501st, of which I'm not a member, it's a private club, is it not?. They can do whatever they want in regards to who can and can't be a member. If you don't like it, deal with it. There's good and bad people everywhere, in the 501st, and even right here on the RPF, only difference is, the good people in the 501st seem to be doing just a little bit more good. If they can put a smile on a sick kids face, all because they took the time to wear a costume to a hospital, then I applaud them.
Of course once again, I, like everyone else here, has turned this into "the 501st thread" ,when it is really about Lucas' new moneymaker.
As for the 501st, of which I'm not a member, it's a private club, is it not?. They can do whatever they want in regards to who can and can't be a member. If you don't like it, deal with it. There's good and bad people everywhere, in the 501st, and even right here on the RPF, only difference is, the good people in the 501st seem to be doing just a little bit more good. If they can put a smile on a sick kids face, all because they took the time to wear a costume to a hospital, then I applaud them.
Of course once again, I, like everyone else here, has turned this into "the 501st thread" ,when it is really about Lucas' new moneymaker.
The irony is not so much that the 501st generally refuses stock Rubies costumes for admission in favor of unlicensed fan made costumes. Their goal is high quality and its their right to set the bar.
The real irony and hypocrisy is with Lucas himself who gladly appears (storm troopers on parade anyone) with 501st members, many of whom are wearing unlicensed costumes and costume components.
Huzz
The real irony and hypocrisy is with Lucas himself who gladly appears (storm troopers on parade anyone) with 501st members, many of whom are wearing unlicensed costumes and costume components.
Huzz
R2B9
Well-Known Member
I don't know if it's hypocritical, but it is legally challenging for anyone making the bootleg suits or parts. The question could be asked, What legal ground does LFL have suing one maker to shut down, plus damages, and then march a hundred of those same bootleg suits in a parade sometime, under full LFL authorization.
Interesting stuff for legal minds to ponder!
I do agree that as a private club, they have every right in the world to have set standards. That makes complete sense and I support it fully.
Skaught
Sr Member
Very few of them featured anything licensed. Maybe a Biker Scout helmet here or there, but that would have been it. And there were way more than a few dozen. Try over 105 Stormtroopers alone, with over 200 marchers altogether (including Biker Scouts, Clone Troopers and Snow Troopers).
When I was taking a tour of the LFL Presidio offices, I stopped to check out a screen used Stormtrooper suit in the hallway. My guide commented on how much better "our" suits were than the screen used ones.
Scott
When I was taking a tour of the LFL Presidio offices, I stopped to check out a screen used Stormtrooper suit in the hallway. My guide commented on how much better "our" suits were than the screen used ones.
Scott
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Egon Spengler
Master Member
I've had quite a few of the actors from the films say the same about the FX armor, that it's better than the screenused stuff. Thats good enough for me.
roboprop
Sr Member
Some of the made props and costumes out there surpass the quality of their screen used counterparts.
Several years ago, Ernie Hudson autographed a fan-made Ghostbusters proton pack for a fan at a convention and he commented on how much nicer the pack was than the ones used in the films.
Several years ago, Ernie Hudson autographed a fan-made Ghostbusters proton pack for a fan at a convention and he commented on how much nicer the pack was than the ones used in the films.
i did the same thing
i stopped JUST short of touching it. i didn't want to get kicked out!!
i want to say that LFL actually made a statement in the SDS case about the fan made stuff. they basically said that they don't care about fans making stuff for fun / love of the hobby, but when a professional makes it for a profit they crack down. something to that effect.
defstartrooper
Sr Member
Very true but it's absolutely possible to improve material and build quality whilst still conserving the aesthetics of the production pieces.
IMO the FX falls short on the latter.
roboprop
Sr Member
That's true!
TMP
Sr Member
The great thing with the FX kit is that is is VERY STRONG and DURABLE.
I have not seen any other provide so durable and thick ABS.
By just changing the helmet on smaller guys it gets a great look.
The other thing i like with the FX kit is that big guys like me can wear it and it looks proportioned. I am 6.1-6-2 tall with 38 waistline and 220 lbs. Not phat or overweight but compact build broad shoulderd.
With a sceen used dome i look like a bowling cone.... it does not look good. Its the general appearence.
I have not seen any other provide so durable and thick ABS.
By just changing the helmet on smaller guys it gets a great look.
The other thing i like with the FX kit is that big guys like me can wear it and it looks proportioned. I am 6.1-6-2 tall with 38 waistline and 220 lbs. Not phat or overweight but compact build broad shoulderd.
With a sceen used dome i look like a bowling cone.... it does not look good. Its the general appearence.
R2B9
Well-Known Member
Godalmighty, I want to get the official transcript of THAT and have it professionally framed! How completely 180 degrees from how Viacom/Paramount was treating the fan prop makers!!
So, uh... Georgie baby... how do you define "professional" and "making a profit"?? :lol
Star Wars Helmets
Sr Member
Exactly. Its a meaningless comment from LFL, given you could argue that all armour out there was made by "professional" people expecting to make a profit.
Cheers
Jez
