Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

Why am I not excited for this flick?!?!

It bugs me that I LIKE everything I've seen, but something isn't hitting right. Years ago I may have said "they need to take this in another direction... get a Fincher or Tarantino type feel. ANYTHING after the prequels..."

But then I am one of those guys who LOVED TFA, and truly felt it had the feel of a Star Wars movie. WIZARDS AND KNIGHTS.

This is like "Platoon" or "Zero Dark Thirty"...

I may love it in the end, but reading the above post about presale... I realized I didn't even care if I missed out on them.

Of course I will absolutely buy presale, but maybe me and my wife... I can't see me trying to organize like with TFA and I for sure will with Episode 8
I agree very much. I don't want a gritty star wars. I want a fairy tail western, just like the rest. That genre holds an endless amount of adventure.


Look what happened with Stargate universe.

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I agree very much. I don't want a gritty star wars. I want a fairy tail western, just like the rest. That genre holds an endless amount of adventure.


Look what happened with Stargate universe.

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I actually liked SG-U and the direction they took, I thought that their big problem wasn't so much as the darker tone as much as it was rather slow and boring up until the second half of the season. They took a little too long to get into the meat of the story for the season and just bored the audience with lots of darkness, and to make matters worse, they didn't seem to learn their lesson from S1 and did the same thing in S2, start off really slow and pick up around ep. 11. I think that if they had continued with the action and used the momentum of the last few episodes of S1 for the first episodes of S2 they might have kept enough viewers around for SyFy to give them a S3, but instead they kept the same slow, plodding pace and drove all but the most die-hard fans.

There's also the whole gimmick of being cut off from Earth, you knew that that wasn't going to last very long, show runners just have no faith with that premise and always have to try find a way to get them back in touch with Earth before long. They did that on Voyager, it happened on Atlantis so you knew that it was going to happen on SG-U as well, although it was a little surprising that it took as little time as it did from them to reconnect with Earth. I wouldn't be surprised if they planned on completely re-establishing contact with Earth sometime around S3 and having them traveling back and forth via the onboard Stargate on a fairly regular basis, just like they did on Atlantis.
 
I actually liked SG-U and the direction they took, I thought that their big problem wasn't so much as the darker tone as much as it was rather slow and boring up until the second half of the season. They took a little too long to get into the meat of the story for the season and just bored the audience with lots of darkness, and to make matters worse, they didn't seem to learn their lesson from S1 and did the same thing in S2, start off really slow and pick up around ep. 11. I think that if they had continued with the action and used the momentum of the last few episodes of S1 for the first episodes of S2 they might have kept enough viewers around for SyFy to give them a S3, but instead they kept the same slow, plodding pace and drove all but the most die-hard fans.

There's also the whole gimmick of being cut off from Earth, you knew that that wasn't going to last very long, show runners just have no faith with that premise and always have to try find a way to get them back in touch with Earth before long. They did that on Voyager, it happened on Atlantis so you knew that it was going to happen on SG-U as well, although it was a little surprising that it took as little time as it did from them to reconnect with Earth. I wouldn't be surprised if they planned on completely re-establishing contact with Earth sometime around S3 and having them traveling back and forth via the onboard Stargate on a fairly regular basis, just like they did on Atlantis.
Don't get me wrong, I loved universe. But the Stargate fans generally hated it.

It felt like it was trying to reach the galactica audience. And that is kind of my fear with rogue one.

The one thing you have to give Lucas credit for, his films are incredibly re-watch able. As was Stargate. But I'd say that both galactica and universe weren't that re-watchable

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Don't get me wrong, I loved universe. But the Stargate fans generally hated it.

It felt like it was trying to reach the galactica audience. And that is kind of my fear with rogue one.

The one thing you have to give Lucas credit for, his films are incredibly re-watch able. As was Stargate. But I'd say that both galactica and universe weren't that re-watchable

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I wish I could unwatch the Prequels,....Howard the Duck,...Willow,...Indy 4,....The Clown Wars & Red Tails

J
 
I was/am totally disappointed in the merchandising for TFA, just felt lacklustre and phoned in. Most of the figures were poor and not a whole lot of the characters. Not Like the old days when EVERY character was out there.

Now I'm looking at the Rogue One selection and I'm seeing things like Rogue One Rebels Sabine. Rogue one Kylo Ren. Rogue One Rey. Rogue One Leia!! (think its from Rebels). The actual ROgue One figures I'm seeing look quite cheap and poor. The black series Death Trooper looks good, but too skinny.

I loved TFA but couldn't/haven't been able to bear to part with any cash for any merch. I don't think I will be this time round either.

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I wish I could unwatch the Prequels,....Howard the Duck,...Willow,...Indy 4,....The Clown Wars & Red Tails

J
I had a soft spot for Howard (interspecies erotica aside!!) Its one I could really go for a reboot on.
 
The TFA falcon was the worst one ever. I'll take the old Kenner version any day over that

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I was/am totally disappointed in the merchandising for TFA, just felt lacklustre and phoned in. Most of the figures were poor and not a whole lot of the characters. Not Like the old days when EVERY character was out there.

Now I'm looking at the Rogue One selection and I'm seeing things like Rogue One Rebels Sabine. Rogue one Kylo Ren. Rogue One Rey. Rogue One Leia!! (think its from Rebels). The actual ROgue One figures I'm seeing look quite cheap and poor. The black series Death Trooper looks good, but too skinny.

I have seen the 1st wave 1st hand. The nicest one was Jyn. The rest were poorly done and almost all were in black uniforms or droid paint. Kylo-looked the same as the TFA released. K2SO was ok. The Imperia gunner looking guy was uneventful. The stormtrooper looked the same as every other stormtrooper. Kanan and Sabine were from the cartoon. What you say is so true. Nothing even close to interesting from TFA and now this.

Although the new Giant Yeti looking rebel is really cool in the 2 pack.
 
Why am I not excited for this flick?!?!

It bugs me that I LIKE everything I've seen, but something isn't hitting right. Years ago I may have said "they need to take this in another direction... get a Fincher or Tarantino type feel. ANYTHING after the prequels..."

But then I am one of those guys who LOVED TFA, and truly felt it had the feel of a Star Wars movie. WIZARDS AND KNIGHTS.

This is like "Platoon" or "Zero Dark Thirty"...

I may love it in the end, but reading the above post about presale... I realized I didn't even care if I missed out on them.

Of course I will absolutely buy presale, but maybe me and my wife... I can't see me trying to organize like with TFA and I for sure will with Episode 8

I feel like you're not the only one. I know several SW fans and they all are decidedly apathetic toward this one. I still feel like the marketing has been pretty lacking. The atmosphere surrounding this movie just feels decidedly muted, from my viewpoint.

I also agree with the comment that the opening crawl for TFA lacked the punch that I was accustomed and felt flat. The 20th Century Fox opening was sorely missed by me too. If I'm not mistaken, Gustavo Dudamel conducted the opening crawl for some reason, and not John Williams.
 
Why am I not excited for this flick?!?!

It bugs me that I LIKE everything I've seen, but something isn't hitting right. Years ago I may have said "they need to take this in another direction... get a Fincher or Tarantino type feel. ANYTHING after the prequels..."

But then I am one of those guys who LOVED TFA, and truly felt it had the feel of a Star Wars movie. WIZARDS AND KNIGHTS.

This is like "Platoon" or "Zero Dark Thirty"...

I may love it in the end, but reading the above post about presale... I realized I didn't even care if I missed out on them.

Of course I will absolutely buy presale, but maybe me and my wife... I can't see me trying to organize like with TFA and I for sure will with Episode 8

neo, i feel the same way. I'm no super hyped. i think its because i dont know the characters... star wars to me needs its great wizard merlin in it. i was hoping donny yens character was going to be a force wielder, being blind and all and using the force to see. i was excited for his character.. now knowing he's not force sensitive (which i dont know if i truly believe) I'm lost interest.

to be honest i dont have much interest, i think the death troopers look horrible (the helmets, everything else on them looks great) and if it is true and vader has just as much screen time as he does in revenge of the sith... boy am I'm really going to be upset.

im not afraid to say i loved TFA, i did. and i think i do love it because we get to see all those old characters we fell in love with back then all over again.

i hope i am completely wrong, and that I'm blown away by rogue one. but to be honest right now, I'm not as hyped as i was for 7
 
I honestly don't believe this will be as particularly dark and gritty as a few of us imagine,ie anything as strong and horrific as a "Saving Private Ryan" or "Platoon" type war film.It may have been originally conceived of with that in notion, but thats probably too grim for the Star Wars majority and I doubt its been shot entirely like that. Filled with battlefront conflicts and more from the "grunts" boots-on- the line perspective certainly, but still very much in line with the main stories as per those fantastic trailers.
I'm expecting it will be slightly less "theatrical" and as overly light hearted (in places) like "TFA" was, but I think it will still be utterly "Star Wars" in the same way "The Empire Strikes Back" was to "A New Hope". The reshooting suggests they have added to this to make it more open to the general SW audiences and I'm confident they'll get the balance right.
I am desperate to see this though. This summers movies have been pretty disappointing but from November there are a few promising genre ones, but R1 is the very top of my list. There are so many elements in this that I was just thrilled to see again. The trailers still give me the slight chills. Why?
Because its a story I can remember discussing decades ago with friends immediately after seeing "Star Wars" in 1977 before it was a chapter of anything. It was just a single standalone story (and a bloody good one at that!!!) and we all wondered what that first victorious rebel battle was about. We wanted more X wings and Ties and Death Star!!!There was no talk of a sequel then and certainly nobody could have guessed how brilliant that eventually would turn out to be. So hearing this was being made was like a personal wish being granted. And the older you get the rarer that kind of event becomes, things get a bit "predictable".
And I'm guesing thats at the root of the problem for some here. We kind of know the outcome of "Rogue One" so that anticipation of moving the overall story forward isn't there, as it was with TFA, there isn't that sense of new mystery,though I do think we will be ulimately surprised by what we see in the end . In less than three months we will know. So here is to hoping and to wishing on a Death Star!
 
More character movies they say huh?


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One tidbit no one has mentioned is the that Lucasfilm story group head Pablo Hidalgo did reveal on twitter recently that Krennic is older than Obi-Wan Kenobi. Didn't say how much but I'd think just barely so.
 
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wow i never heard of that. i am a heavy pokemon card collector. my local walmart usually puts the new cards on the shelfs a week before the release date, its like clock work. never had a problem buying them early.

my walmart sucks so bad for star wars figures. i went to target last night actually, and their toy isle was bare too... i can't believe with all the star wars hype last year and now we got barely any toys... very disappointing

They are clearing out for R1 toys. Friday, it will be a mad house.
 
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