Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

"Many Bothans died to bring us this information".

We better see more than one person die...
I think they all should die.
 
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Yah, not crazy about the jedi-religion-holy-land thing.

To me, as a kid, the Force was about believing in myself.
It was about "if you want something bad enough, then make it happen".
It was about trying to levitate pencils during boring history lessons.
It was never about religion.

It's such a simple concept... why do writers feel such a need to overcomplicate it?
I'll still see the movie, but I'm pretty disappointed in Disney right now.

Governor Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fort-...

I've always seen it as a religion

May the Force be with You

J
 
Governor Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fort-...

I've always seen it as a religion

May the Force be with You

J

If it's a religion, it's Taoism.
Which is more of a philosophy than a religion.
I don't mind Taoism, and I don't mind philosophy.
But religion just makes me angry, and I don't want it in my spaceship battles and laser-sword fights.
 
Just imagine, how awesome it would be if they would use some of the deleted footage from ANH at the end of the movie: Luke looking up to the sky using his binoclars and watching the dogfight above him... Wishful thinking, of course, but nonetheless... :)
 
If it's a religion, it's Taoism.
Which is more of a philosophy than a religion.
I don't mind Taoism, and I don't mind philosophy.
But religion just makes me angry, and I don't want it in my spaceship battles and laser-sword fights.

The force isn't simple though it's always been complicated and mysterious. Even the Jedi and Sith don't have full knowledge of the force. The Poe comics have been really interesting some weird stuff in there. I expect a whole more weird stuff going forward.

Don't quite understand why religion makes you angry, if you don't like something that's cool but if other people want to believe in something that's cool too. What's terrible is when you get extremists the use religion as banner to commit senseless acts. If someone was to bomb somewhere and claim they were a believer of the Sith would you blame Star Wars for creating the religion that inspired the bombing or the idiot that did the bombing and tarnished something that is really cool
 
If someone was to bomb somewhere and claim they were a believer of the Sith would you blame Star Wars for creating the religion that inspired the bombing or the idiot that did the bombing and tarnished something that is really cool

Discussing religion is against the rules here - for good reason. I've said my peace and that's all I'm going to say on the matter.
I just think Star Wars works best as simple good guy versus bad guy action adventure movies.
I understood Star Wars when I was a kid - as an adult, the prequels lost me. I didn't understand them, and I wasn't having fun.
At least the folks at Disney seem to understand Star Wars a little bit better than George did...
 
Okay, fine. Star Wars is about religion. I've completely misunderstood it's message all these years. :rolleyes
I'll turn in my fan card.

lets not get crazy. :) Reading all the source material Lucas wrote for SW I do think he envisioned it at least initially as a form of religion. Some aspects of that survive to this day while some of the films seem to distance itself from it.
 
Seeing this as a kid, and now, I never ever took Tarkin's response about religion to mean it's an actual religion. I always took it as Tarkin completely misunderstanding what the Force actually was. He just sees it as another religion and not something that really gives you powers. That then fits with Han thinking it's just a bunch of made up junk. I assume a lot of people's beliefs at that point are similar and that the Emperor encouraged people to believe the Jedi were just a bunch of BS'ers. That's also why Tarkin thinks he's in charge, when Vader really is, but is fine with letting Tarkin think so.
 
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