Robocop Reboot (Pre-release)

CB2001 said:
And I agree with you. To me, I refer to most Hollywood films nowadays as "twinkees", because they are all filler and no substance. What made films of the past more interesting was sold storytelling, not visual style. In fact, I believe where we are at right now in Hollywood is exactly where Hollywood at was at at the start of 1968, just before Easy Rider. The Hollywood System now is right back at how the Hollywood system was at before: the studios thinking they know what the audiences want, producing films that no one is wanting to watch anymore. I've been saying this for a while now, but this is what I truly think: "We need a second Counter Culture Revolution in film." Because if Speilberg and Lucas were starting out in this version of Hollywood today, with Spielberg doing an adaptation of Duel and Lucas pitching Star Wars to Fox, Spielberg would be fired after two days of being over schedule and replaced by someone else and Lucas would have been laughed out of the office for pitching Star Wars. And the reason why they succeeded originally was because they proved themselves to be reliable filmmakers.
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Yep. The difference is, I think that the counter-culture revolution is more likely to happen as a result of sidestepping Hollywood -- in the traditional sense -- altogether, and reinventing how entertainment is delivered to customers. I see the old studios dying out and being replaced by new studios eventually (or the old studio MODEL dying out, even if the old studios names stick around).

I really think that Netflix has shown the path to solving several of the current problems in Hollywood via subscription-based models. Sell people subscriptions to a service and you remove the "ownership" mentality of media. You also put a damper (for the time being) on piracy.

BUT, more than that, you stand a fighting chance of being able to ACTUALLY tell people the kind of stories they want to hear, and you get FAR more direct, immediate feedback from users.

Here's what I'm talking about. Netflix has already at they're original series, and I think I saw that they're producing another. This trend will continue. But think of the benefits for systems like this. Netflix gets users to individually rate shows/films so that it can see what's popular on a granular level. You can see EXACTLY which shows are popular, and with the comment system, you can get a sense of why.

Moreover, you can tier your subscription fees or subscription packages. I actually think Kickstarter provides good examples for this. Sure, you can chip in at the minimal level for a Kickstarter project, OR you can chip in at the super-duper-OOPER level and get more bang for your buck. Past a certain point, you the consumer decide your level of commitment. So, analogize that to, say, a TV show.

Fox Studios could sell a subscription to its "Fox Sci-Fi Lineup" for a package fee, or break it down by show and at different levels. So, if fans really truly wanted Firefly Season 2, hell, they could fund the damn thing as long as Fox gives them the ability to do so. You could subscribe to Fox's sci-fi package on their delivery network, or you could say "I'm chipping in $40 a month for Firefly Season 2 alone. Because I love it."

Same goes for films. If you REALLY loved Remo Williams The Adventure Begins, rather than relying on individual one-size-fits-all subscriptions, you could let dedicated fans actually fund your sequel by offering them greater subscription values. At the "Platinum Fan" level, you get a chance to go to a meet-and-greet with Fred Ward! Blah blah blah. Then you take that money and use it to fund the sequel. And so on and so forth.

Basically, instead of relying on mass, low-level consumption, you open your business model up to smaller fan groups with high levels of motivation and a willingness to spend cash.

THAT is how I see the revolution taking place. The studios are too mired in the past to figure this out...for now. It'll take the external mavericks, the Netflixes who are willing to take a chance, to bankroll the new model, at which point the studios will catch on.
 
That's fan art. It's not concept art from the film. Come on, guys. The film's a year away--do you think this would be out there in an unofficial capacity for any schmoe to Google?
 
Solo4114 said:
Well, here's my point. They sit around and wonder why attendance in theaters is dwindling, and the solution appears to be "Go bigger", "More of the same", and "Add more f/x and 3D." On, and "MARKETING." And when it doesn't solve the problem, what do they do? Pretty much the same stuff.

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What more needs to be said? :thumbsup
 
Here are some potential major spoilers that were tweeted by Hitfix's Drew McWeeny

I’ll share this one detail. In the film, when Murphy is turned into Robocop 1.0, it’s described “a high-tech version of the ’80s suit.” Then they show a focus group scene where criminals laugh at the design. “He looks like a toy from the ’80s!” So they redesign him to look “meaner” as Robocop 2.0, who passes focus group approval. So they not only make sure to include the original design, they also point out it’s dated and stupid. *facepalm*

Hold onto your sides for more hilarious “Robocop” details. They outsource his construction to China. #seriously

And we meet the ED-209s in the field in Iran, where they’re used to subdue suicide bombers. #ineedallthedrinksnow

Ahhh… now they just dropped Robocop 3.0 onto an Al Queda training camp to see what he does.

“He should be programmed to incapacitate in all scenarios.” “Agreed. Let’s keep him PG-13, Dr. Norton.” No. No. No. No.

By page 54, they are already onto Robocop 4.0, who looks like a “cop on steroids painted metallic blue.”

Oh, god… oh dear god… Robocop is a Transformer. He goes from “social mode” to “combat mode” and back. Full transformation.

I’m going to go stand in my backyard and scream at the moon for a while. My brain needs a shower.

Write it down. Page 55, the “Robocop” remake beat me. I’m done. I can’t hurt more than this.

Okay… the two “best” lines in the script. First up is at the unveiling ceremony for Robocop in Detroit, from a TV reporter covering it. “I think it’s safe to say that Alex Murphy is now part man, part machine, ALL COP!” Yes, I too remember the original poster, ******. Second, after the traumatic first meeting with his father, Alex’s son retreats to the apartment of Lewis, Murphy’s male partner. The scene ends with the action line “David sits, catatonic, looks at the TV — MGM REMAKE TBD.”

Good god… it just keeps topping itself. It’s like someone wrote a script scientifically fine-tuned to destroy me. Someone shows Pope, head of the OCP project, some mock-ups for Robocop action figures. “Are you kidding? I wouldn’t buy that for a dollar!” Yeah, that just happened. NOT SO FUNNY NOW, IS IT?!

When this thing hits theaters, people are going to call up Len Wiseman’s “Total Recall” on the phone and apologize for being so mean. “I’m sorry, ‘Total Recall.’ I had no idea how bad things could get. You’re starting to look like a masterpiece right about now.”

I’ll say this: once the script stops all the winky-winky crap and just starts telling a story, it’s not terrible. But it’s way too late. If you can get past Robocop The Transformer, there are some interesting action beats. And I’m sure Padilla will direct the hell out of it. But overall? Ouch. Ouch. Ohpleasedon’t. Ouch. And a big side order of ouch."
 
Dorian Gray said:
Here are some potential major spoilers that were tweeted by Hitfix's Drew McWeeny

I’ll share this one detail. In the film, when Murphy is turned into Robocop 1.0, it’s described “a high-tech version of the ’80s suit.” Then they show a focus group scene where criminals laugh at the design. “He looks like a toy from the ’80s!” So they redesign him to look “meaner” as Robocop 2.0, who passes focus group approval. So they not only make sure to include the original design, they also point out it’s dated and stupid. *facepalm*

Hold onto your sides for more hilarious “Robocop” details. They outsource his construction to China. #seriously

And we meet the ED-209s in the field in Iran, where they’re used to subdue suicide bombers. #ineedallthedrinksnow

Ahhh… now they just dropped Robocop 3.0 onto an Al Queda training camp to see what he does.

“He should be programmed to incapacitate in all scenarios.” “Agreed. Let’s keep him PG-13, Dr. Norton.” No. No. No. No.

By page 54, they are already onto Robocop 4.0, who looks like a “cop on steroids painted metallic blue.”

Oh, god… oh dear god… Robocop is a Transformer. He goes from “social mode” to “combat mode” and back. Full transformation.

I’m going to go stand in my backyard and scream at the moon for a while. My brain needs a shower.

Write it down. Page 55, the “Robocop” remake beat me. I’m done. I can’t hurt more than this.

Okay… the two “best” lines in the script. First up is at the unveiling ceremony for Robocop in Detroit, from a TV reporter covering it. “I think it’s safe to say that Alex Murphy is now part man, part machine, ALL COP!” Yes, I too remember the original poster, ******. Second, after the traumatic first meeting with his father, Alex’s son retreats to the apartment of Lewis, Murphy’s male partner. The scene ends with the action line “David sits, catatonic, looks at the TV — MGM REMAKE TBD.”

Good god… it just keeps topping itself. It’s like someone wrote a script scientifically fine-tuned to destroy me. Someone shows Pope, head of the OCP project, some mock-ups for Robocop action figures. “Are you kidding? I wouldn’t buy that for a dollar!” Yeah, that just happened. NOT SO FUNNY NOW, IS IT?!

When this thing hits theaters, people are going to call up Len Wiseman’s “Total Recall” on the phone and apologize for being so mean. “I’m sorry, ‘Total Recall.’ I had no idea how bad things could get. You’re starting to look like a masterpiece right about now.”

I’ll say this: once the script stops all the winky-winky crap and just starts telling a story, it’s not terrible. But it’s way too late. If you can get past Robocop The Transformer, there are some interesting action beats. And I’m sure Padilla will direct the hell out of it. But overall? Ouch. Ouch. Ohpleasedon’t. Ouch. And a big side order of ouch."
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Well, that sounds absolutely horrible.
 
Dorian Gray said:
Here are some potential major spoilers that were tweeted by Hitfix's Drew McWeeny
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I was dreading his reactions as Drew was tweeting them live yesterday.

It's a very bad move if they are going to consider showing the 80s version of the costume to take a p*** on it.

Also the social satire aspect of the original film is given below.

DrewAtHitFix: "Hold onto your sides for more hilarious "Robocop" details. They outsource his construction to China. #seriously"

In response to Drew's above tweet, somebody posted the following

nicholasstoller: "to play devil's advocate didn't the original traffic in over the top social satire?"

DrewAtHitFix: @nicholasstoller It's tough to determine tone on the page, but "satire" seems low on their list of priorities
 
this movie is now officially dead to me, and that never happened before they actually start shooting it. well thats new...
 
how about they actually do something interesting and actually film it IN detroit? that would have been much more realistic.

instead, they do the shameful crappy remake like total recall.
 
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'nuff said
 
airair said:
how about they actually do something interesting and actually film it IN detroit? that would have been much more realistic.

instead, they do the shameful crappy remake like total recall.
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Because the Governor of Michigan did away with a lot of the film incentives and tax breaks so unfortunately we have lost a lot of movies here.
 
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