Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes...

Qui-Gonzalez

Master Member
So, what is with the flack? Usually these shows are the height of boredom. Listening to some of his barbs, it was the most entertaining thing about that show. Do the Hollywood types not realize how most of America sees them? Their ranting over how Gervais handled the show only makes them look worse to me.
 
From what little of this I've encountered, the issues are as follow:

1.) Gervais' jibes were particularly pointed and mean-spirited rather than "I'm just joking along with you guys." This is a crowd of performers -- people who crave approval on some levels. They probably don't like someone poking fun at them at an event where they're supposed to be the stars of the show. Especially because they have to sit there and smile and take it on the chin.

2.) The pace of Gervais' jibes was (at least from what I can gather -- I didn't watch) pretty relentless. Yes he targeted everyone, rather than singling one person out for ridicule....but he targeted everyone. And he did it all night. One or two mean-spirited jokes might be brushed aside as "I had some material and it didn't seem to fly with the crowd. It was all meant in good fun, but if I offended, I apologize." You can't really do that when the whole schtick for the evening is "You guys are a bunch of preening douchebags, aren't ya?"

3.) Ricky Gervais is not "one of their own." Thus, there's no sense of self-deprecation, no sense of "Hey guys, you know I'm along for the ride too," and he didn't really do anything to make himself the butt of the joke equally, which might've offset the somewhat obnoxious tenor of the evening otherwise. Moreover, as Tom Hanks apparently pointed out, Ricky's kind of a nobody in Hollywood. He may be big in the U.K., and he may have managed to get a few successful shows out, but he's not a megastar, so who the **** is he to be giving people a raft of s*** without having earned his stripes yet?

4.) It's an awards show, not a Friars Roast. Some "industry insider" jokes are fine, but the theme isn't supposed to be an evening of relentless ridicule. If you go to a Friars Roast as the "guest of honor" you know what you're getting yourself into, and presumably you know many of the people making fun of you, so it's not as big a deal. You have a different set of expectations.


Now, as a ratings event, it was probably a lot more interesting than most other awards shows, but that's like comparing how more interesting it is to watch flies **** than it is to watch paint dry.
 
It's no worse than half the stuff that shows up on tv making fun of famous people. I've seen worse on Family guy taking shots at them. I was watching a hollywood type show and the hosts even admit that the target of the jokes was the audience at home who enjoys seeing stars put down. I see nothing wrong with what he did, they need to learn to laugh at themselves and maybe people would stop wanting to see them bashed on tv. Besides most of the people there are preening douchebags and need to be knocked down a peg or two.
 
For the record I don't rate Ricky Gervais as talented. But people
Who are talented and rich shouldn't give a damn. How could you care?

Give me their money and you can call me what you want. And hey, I'll
Smile back at ya too.
 
Solo, I could easily counter that if you book a comedian like Gervais you should know what you are getting too.

Say what you will, but Gervais IS a talented writer and comedian. They would not have chosen some talentless hack. Now, is his acting of the caliber of a Hanks, or Denzel? Nope, but he can pen a tale.
 
I thought he was excellent and a huge step-up form the typical sycophants they often book at award shows.

I think as a comedian he is quite edgy and a lot of people dont like that. However given he also did it last year they must have known what they were getting!

I like edgy comedy and think that Chris Rock is also an extremely talented stand-up comic. Maybe they should get him to do one :lol

Cgheers

Jez
 
I think it is similar to a celebrity roast. It is all just in good fun. The fact that you are being made fun of shows your level of success.

Sweet
 
I never even heard of this guy before all this. It may help his career. More than a few stars apparently found him funny from the shots of them laughing that were shown. A few jokes may have crossed the line but when you're at an event that is basically a butt kissing contest it's needed to even things out. Chris Rock would roast everyone really bad lol. I saw this sort of thing on I think it was the emmy's or something a while back where they had a skit with brian and stewie from family guy and the guys getting made fun of by them were the only ones not laughing.
 
Solo, I could easily counter that if you book a comedian like Gervais you should know what you are getting too.

Say what you will, but Gervais IS a talented writer and comedian. They would not have chosen some talentless hack. Now, is his acting of the caliber of a Hanks, or Denzel? Nope, but he can pen a tale.

That's not really the point, though. I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm saying that the reason why the stars and press people are pissy with him is as I described (I think), and from that perspective, it makes sense to me, even if I don't hold the same opinion.


I think the real tension is the issue about what the show is supposed to be "about." What's the point of it? Is it an industry event where the industry gets nothing but pats on the back and maybe the occasional good-natured mild ribbing? Well that's gonna be pretty boring to us "little people" at home. Which is why most of these shows end up being ignored.

Or is the point to provide something entertaining to bring in the viewers and score ratings, sell ad time, and boost star profiles? Well, if that's the case, Gervais did a great job, probably.

I think the real problem is that there's a disconnect between the goals of the program and the goals of the attendees. Now, there are ways to still be entertaining without being really rude, and that when you hire a guy like Gervais to come do an event like this, you've got to expect a lot of what they got, but that doesn't change the fact that the people who show up to these things can end up irritated by it.


They'll probably tap someone bland and inoffensive for next year, and the ratings will suffer after the first commercial break. So it goes, I guess. I don't bother with these shows anyway. They're a giant waste of time when all I want to know are the results, and usually I deride those anyway.
 
Good work. Now all it needs is for someone to come along and puncture Gervais' own smug, over inflated ego and we'll be done.
 
...on to the awards themselves I'm glad Colin Firth won for "The King's Speech" - the film itself and his performance were both stunning

Cheers

Jez
 
Does nobody else see the irony in members of a board dedicated to recreating objects from motion pictures lambasting "Hollywood elites?"

I saw some clips of Gervais' performance. Some was funny, some I felt was over the line. There's a line (objective, I admit) between good natured ribbing and over the top rudeness (for lack of a better term).
 
Does nobody else see the irony in members of a board dedicated to recreating objects from motion pictures lambasting "Hollywood elites?"

Not at all. Prop makers and f/x guys are hardly "Hollywood elites" like the ones at the Golden Globes. ;)

I saw some clips of Gervais' performance. Some was funny, some I felt was over the line. There's a line (objective, I admit) between good natured ribbing and over the top rudeness (for lack of a better term).

I think you mean "subjective."
 
The golden globes are usually a joke (Social Network sweeps the show? please). But Gervais made them hilarious.
 
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