Revolution

Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

All I can tell from the previews is that there's a hot chick with haunting eyes who is always looking down her crossbow at me.

Not saying that's bad, but that's all I take away from it.

Just like all I got from Heroes was Hayden Panitierre(sp) standing with her hands on her hips.

Brian
 
Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

Interesting idea for a show, but I probably won't watch it unless everyone starts going on about how it's the best thing on TV. I don't have time to watch every last thing that airs, so I only go for the cream of the crop based on opinions from other viewers.

I'm the same way. I'll catch popular shows that interest me a couple seasons in usually.
 
Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

I might watch the first episode to check it out, but I can't see watching the whole thing. Something is disabling all electrical power, except for a few small things? As a long time fan of science fiction, I am used to bending the laws of physics, but this is too much. Especially since that would kill everything.
 
Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

I watched the pilot. Some typical Joss Whedon/JJ Abrams style storytelling with random flashbacks, mixed in with Dawson's Creek cheese teen romance and a slight X-files aftertaste.

LOST it ain't.

But like MicDavis says, bad sci-fi is better than no sci-fi.
 
honestly, i didnt think it was good. the idea might be good, but seeing the bazillionth series about teens, its just horrible. any scifi series that revolves around teenagers character growth is just stupid to me.
 
I'm not willing to invest my time and energy into JJ Abrams shows until they wrap and I know the ending definitively does not suck. Actually, I'm like that with most shows now. I'll pick 'em up only a few seasons in, with only a few exceptions.


Technological question, though:

Ok, so, big EMP event knocks out "all electricity." Well, actually, an EMP would only knock out solid-state electronics. Vacuum tubes would still work, I think, although manufacturing them might be tricky until you build the infrastructure to do so.

Why would this affect cars, though? Modern cars with onboard computers, sure, but what about your old 70s muscle car? Would an EMP or solar flare or passing comet or whatever make a car battery go dead? And it's not like wires would suddenly lose their ability to carry a current. So...what the hell? I could see motorized vehicles being fewer and farther between, and oil/gasoline supplies being jealously guarded, but...it's not as if ALL vehicles would simply vanish or cease functioning, right? I'm just asking here, since I'm not up on the mechanical aspects of cars, and especially not the electronic aspects.
 
I have my doubts on this show. It kind of has a Walking Dead sense to it without the zombies and less grimm. I will give it a shot because I like JJ and I like jon favreau but I don't expect to it to be in my weekly rotation of shows. I see it more like Heroes where it may appear to be good on the surface but deep down it's just terrible.
 
It looks like post apocalypse hit a daytime Soap. All of the wardrobe, the hair , the makeup.. They're better coiffed during the Armageddon than I am in everyday life. Hey look, it's Gus!

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I haven't watched the pilot but I have a question... How does she cock the crossbow without a stirrup on the front of it? Kind of hard to cock a reverse draw without anything to hold the bow down when you're pulling up. Nitpicky? Sure. But when you designed the Vision's successor, the Havoc, it tends to bug you.
 
I haven't watched the pilot but I have a question... How does she cock the crossbow without a stirrup on the front of it? Kind of hard to cock a reverse draw without anything to hold the bow down when you're pulling up. Nitpicky? Sure. But when you designed the Vision's successor, the Havoc, it tends to bug you.

Maybe it's a bowcaster... :lol
 
Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

Actually watching the trailer does show quite a few guns, considering SVS said they had "disappeared". A few muskets, and I thought I saw at least one or two cartridge guns.

OMG that's even more stupid! Apparently EMPs take out modern firearms somehow. It would take hundreds of years most likely for people to run out of ammo in the U.S. Then they would run out only if people run out of brass and people who knew how to reload cartridges. That's just too dumb for me to even suspend a sense of disbelief.
 
Re: Revolution - this show has got to be bad right?

OMG that's even more stupid! Apparently EMPs take out modern firearms somehow. It would take hundreds of years most likely for people to run out of ammo in the U.S. Then they would run out only if people run out of brass and people who knew how to reload cartridges. That's just too dumb for me to even suspend a sense of disbelief.

You'd probably run out of people who know how to make gunpowder before you run out of ammo when you think of all the ammo in homes, police stations, military facilities. They're banking on the fact that the average person doesn't pay attention to stuff like this and doesn't mind being treated like an idiot. This looks like it wants to be Jericho but doesn't make it. I like some of the ideas but I'm tired of families in these shows because the kids are always badly written and in the way. I bet there will be a brooding teenager in this one.
 
Would an EMP or solar flare or passing comet or whatever make a car battery go dead... but...it's not as if ALL vehicles would simply vanish or cease functioning, right? I'm just asking here, since I'm not up on the mechanical aspects of cars, and especially not the electronic aspects.

I'll preface by saying I'm probably less up on the mechanical aspects of cars than you are. Right pedal make go, left pedal make stop is my level of expertise.

But would an EMP wreck the starter somehow? I dunno. :unsure


Kevin
 
I'll preface by saying I'm probably less up on the mechanical aspects of cars than you are. Right pedal make go, left pedal make stop is my level of expertise.

But would an EMP wreck the starter somehow? I dunno. :unsure


Kevin

Shouldn't. But all modern vehicles would cease to function properly due to the onboard computers. Old cars should be just fine.
 
That's what I was figuring. Which would make a Mad Max type scenario -- where everyone's driving muscle cars until the fuel runs out -- more likely. Or maybe old Honda Civics for the better mileage. :lol
 
OMG that's even more stupid! Apparently EMPs take out modern firearms somehow. It would take hundreds of years most likely for people to run out of ammo in the U.S. Then they would run out only if people run out of brass and people who knew how to reload cartridges. That's just too dumb for me to even suspend a sense of disbelief.
I'm not sure what explanation the show is going with... the 4-minute preview teases the fact that some people have the ability to "turn the lights back on".

But assuming this is an outright, blatant copy of the story in S.M. Stirling's Dies the Fire and its sequels, "The Change" does NOT happen due to an EM Pulse or anything man-made.

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In the books, "The Change" happens when the island of Nantucket is suddenly and without warning thrust BACKWARD in time centuries into the past due to some weird localized time-space disruption. This "Change" also renders ALL man-made technology from the invention of gunpowder forward inoperable. It doesn't just make electrical devices stop working, it also prevents the functioning of all complex chemical reactions, including, but not limited to, gunpowder, explosives, and internal combustion engines. Basically, the Human race ends up stripped of ALL technology developed in the last 600-700 years, thrusting us back to the Middle Ages.

When the reasons behind "The Change" are finally revealed in one of the books, it's a rather innovative, but shocking, plot twist. It turns out that the Powers That Be (basically, S.M. Stirling's version of the Gods) IMPOSED "The Change" on Mankind, because they felt that we lacked the maturity and wisdom necessary to use our technology appropriately. So, they stripped us of it until we grow up, basically.

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Don't know if that's where the TV series is taking the story, since ABC's parent company is Disney. Not sure how Disney would feel about that particular plot twist. Also, there's the possibility that the show's creators have what they consider to be a "better" idea of what to reveal there.

In the meantime, when S.M. Stirling announced at the 2009 Dragon*Con that a TV series adaptation of the "Emberverse"/"Change World" novels was in the works, it was SONY that was the interested party that he was in talks with, not Bad Robot Productions and ABC/Disney. Also, I've now seen interviews in Entertainment Weekly with Abrams and Kripke, and neither one acknowledges Stirling or his novels. So now, I'm just going to sit back and wait for S.M. Stirling to release a statement. I fully expect NBC and Abrams, et al, will get sued for "borrowing" so heavily from those novels. :popcorn
 
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