Hellboy: The Crooked Man
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I think you can do a smaller, character led TV series but a film has a limited runtime and these days it needs to really grab people to get them to part with their money and go to the cinema. It's unfortunate that this second reboot, looks like a really cheap knock off of Hellboy.
I doubt I would even give this the time of day of it went to Netflix.
It's a great story, so I'm looking at this like I used to look at comics-i may not be a fan of the artist & his visual style, but if the story is there, I'm entertained.
I loved the first two Hellboy movies and the remake was ok but it wasn't different enough. This film is obviously different in terms of visibility and tone. I love the scaled down, dark, seedy look to this movie. I know I'm in the minority but I'm really looking forward to seeing it.
Still a pass for me.
OK... just watched it. I loved it too!
I miss the "adventure" more light-hearted elements of the Del Toro movies, but Jack Kesey was GREAT as Big Red. Now I kinda hope that they do more with him, based directly off comic stories.
I miss the "adventure" more light-hearted elements of the Del Toro movies, but Jack Kesey was GREAT as Big Red. Now I kinda hope that they do more with him, based directly off comic stories.
I mean, I'm not about to replace the 1/4 statue I have of Ron as Hellboy with anyone else, but Kesey was surprisingly good. Felt a little like a younger, less cranky version of Perlman's character, which fits since the movie takes place in 1959.
I honestly don't know if it's good or bad that Del Toro never got his third film. For one, The Golden Army was more a Del Toro film with Hellboy in it, than something Mignola would have dreamed up. (Still loved it, but the first felt more authentic.) I fear the third might've gone off the rails completely. (For the same reason I'm glad he bailed on The Hobbit. He's a fantastic director, but some things just don't mix with his aesthetic.) But also... they pretty much said outright that Hellboy would've died in it... and frankly, we've seen too many heroes killed onscreen the last two decades...
If you are a fan from the Comics I can really understand your problem with Del Toros version of Hellboy.Kroenen is also not a Supernazi-ninja-killer in the Comics.He is a weak naziscientist.haha.
From the movieside the Del Toro Films are great storys with a nice setdesign.The first one is better yes...for me,the proloque with Kroenen is next to the one from the LotR with Sauron one of the best proloques in moviehistory.
I will watch also the new one one day but from what I see in the trailers it has not the quality of the del Toro films.
Golden Army had a budget of $85m, which is about $124m today. Crooked Man had a budget of $20m. Comparably, it's a low-budget horror movie. Visually it's mixed bag... some parts look real good, others look more amateurish.
My slight problem with Del Toro is that he exerts too much of his own visually artistic influence over movies where the "universe" isn't his. It's fine to inject a bit of your own stamp on things... every artist does that... but DT does it to such a degree that the original aesthetics become almost unrecognizable, in part because his style is very distinct and extreme. That's why I kinda see Golden Army as a (very good) Del Toro-universe movie with Hellboy and the BPRD as "guest stars". Story changes are fine... especially considering the Hellboy books are pretty bare-bones and obscure. Very few people would have the patience to sit through a 100% faithful adaption. (Compare to how many are willing to sit through the original Nosferatu today!) Crooked Man seems to have attempted to make a more faithful adaption, but sadly... it's missing a lot of the humor, even if they tried in a couple places.
Its always the problem with Comics and movies.They must make the movies also interesting for the "normal" viewer and not only for Comicfans.
I think the best 1:1 Comicmovie was Watchmen.Ok they changed the end a little bit and added some fighscenes but overall it was a great Comicmovie.
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Picked it up at Walmart for $13. The tone seemed a little uneven. It couldn't decide whether it was a comedy or horror/adventure. Either way, it wasn't bad. About even with the last reboot.
I really enjoyed Watchmen and the directors cut was even better IMO..
I remember a movie based apparently on Rogue Trooper from 2000AD comics.. It was not by any means anything like the comic in almost every way but that's the nature of movies and TV but then as you say Would a blue man with bio chip talking buddies make for a two hour movie... Prolly not back when it came out.
I love Tank Girl but the movie was awful.
I finally watched the whole of The Crooked Man.. Some of it was interesting, the story was OK but the parts I felt were off was HellBoy... I think I'm just too used to Ron playing the part.
A good Hellboy movie is a bit of both!
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