RECASTER ALERT! Beware of seller "LaRetrotienda" on Etsy/Amazon/Ebay
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Rogviler
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In a way, a lot of people do. They'll add a "tell" that nobody referencing the real thing would have on their piece. I've always thought a good one would be a fingerprint, but some props are too clean for this to be appropriate. But some little mark or nick that would only be present if it was a direct recast is a good idea.
Exactly the case here without doing it deliberately. Since it's an original artistic creatrion, absolutely all the marks on the stone are ''tells''.
LandronArtifact
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In this case the entire surface is full of unique signatures that are my own, including a few areas that have dents created with my fingernail. This was also never meant to be a 1:1 spot-on replica but a highly interpretive artist's rendition that was supposed to convey the general spirit of the prop while also being its own thing, which is why I don't market it specifically as an Indiana Jones Sankara Stone in my website. Other examples like those from Restaurajones (and another I can't remember) have the well-deserved honors of having produced the "definitive" replica stones as they're meticulously recreated from a lot of good reference material. When I made mine it was a matter of making it "feel right" to my own subjective impression of the village stone, which is what makes the recasting of my sculpt all the more annoying and personal. And after having what I thought at the time was a pleasant and friendly transaction with him (all in Spanish, too, as a friendly gesture since I'm bilingual), him turning around and doing this felt like a betrayal of my trust. Like saying to a guy "Hey, what's up?" and he turns around and flips me the bird. The guy is not a collector or fan as I presumed, but was only after my sculpt to selfishly crank out resin copies. He's of the same species of slime who hounds celebrities for autographs, not because they're fans, but they just want to sell the autographs on eBay because they're too worthless to learn real skills or get real jobs.
Right now I'm having a heck of a fun time dropping my review (with the same side-by-side pics I posted here) on his Amazon listing. He keeps reposting it just to purge my review but I'll just keep plopping down my review again... and again... y de nuevo. Like a slow game of Whack-A-Mole.
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LandronArtifact
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Knightmare
Sr Member
What a Shameless Grifter .I have your pedestal and somebody on here asked me where I got it a while back wonder if it was him Your items are pretty obscure and not easy to find he must have been on the forum snooping .
Vaders_Happy
Well-Known Member
Could the mods find them using cross referenced information that LandronArtifact has, and that given to the site to get an account? Or IP address? My thoughts are there is sufficient information to revoke their account, and prevent them creating another one.
LandronArtifact
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I seriously doubt he's a member here though.
Vaders_Happy
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Just a thought, based on what Knightmare said.
agent5
Sr Member
I bought one from you and love it. You're right too. His paint job SUCKS!
Hopefully for you his payback will be swift and merciless.
LandronArtifact
Well-Known Member
He's still at it. Recasters get coal for Christmas... and a bag of flaming dog s***.
LandronArtifact
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Couldn't resist. 
LandronArtifact
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Not content with having already directly ripped me off by directly recasting my Sankara Stone, this neanderthal goes ahead and rips off Pedro’s (Restaurajones) work. Well, when you can’t make it on your own, why not rip off from the best, right?
(Top photo is of the Laretrotienda bootlegs. Bottom picture are Pedro's original work-in-progress sculpts.)
He even designated each with the same numbers that Pedro did on his own sculpts. LOL I reached out to Pedro personally and it turns out that it looks like Laretrotienda (real name is Alberto Cerezo Ledesma), or someone he “hired” because I don’t think he can sculpt his way out of a paper bag, sculpted these from scratch, but clearly used Pedro’s stones as direct reference as all the tells are nearly identical though there are several differences throughout, certainly in shape, detail, and finish. But where it gets really interesting (and scummy on Alberto’s part) is that Pedro tells me Laretrotienda was following his Instagram posts for a while. Pedro recognized the user handle as he’s well aware of this scumbag as I’ve made it well known on some forums and on social media. He lurked around for a while, then Laretrotienda abruptly blocks him out of the blue. Presumably his only intention was to grab as many reference pictures as he could from Pedro’s Instagram and hide the fact that he’s blatantly copying him by blocking him so Pedro cannot view Laretrotienda’s posts. The guy is not only a slimy prick but a pathetic coward.
Now I know what some of you are probably thinking… “at least he’s not directly recasting and actually took the effort this time to sculpt them.” That’s absolutely true. But it’s the manner in which he did it that is scummy and deserves to be exposed and trolled to the max. And to try to duplicate all of the tell-tale maker’s marks that differentiate Pedro’s stones from all others is yet another thing that I can tell from my conversation with Pedro that this new development irks him.
Side note, did anyone see his diorama of Storm Troopers drowning in mashed potatoes? It's a delicious masterpiece! Just add gravy.
ROTFLMAO
(Top photo is of the Laretrotienda bootlegs. Bottom picture are Pedro's original work-in-progress sculpts.)
He even designated each with the same numbers that Pedro did on his own sculpts. LOL I reached out to Pedro personally and it turns out that it looks like Laretrotienda (real name is Alberto Cerezo Ledesma), or someone he “hired” because I don’t think he can sculpt his way out of a paper bag, sculpted these from scratch, but clearly used Pedro’s stones as direct reference as all the tells are nearly identical though there are several differences throughout, certainly in shape, detail, and finish. But where it gets really interesting (and scummy on Alberto’s part) is that Pedro tells me Laretrotienda was following his Instagram posts for a while. Pedro recognized the user handle as he’s well aware of this scumbag as I’ve made it well known on some forums and on social media. He lurked around for a while, then Laretrotienda abruptly blocks him out of the blue. Presumably his only intention was to grab as many reference pictures as he could from Pedro’s Instagram and hide the fact that he’s blatantly copying him by blocking him so Pedro cannot view Laretrotienda’s posts. The guy is not only a slimy prick but a pathetic coward.
Now I know what some of you are probably thinking… “at least he’s not directly recasting and actually took the effort this time to sculpt them.” That’s absolutely true. But it’s the manner in which he did it that is scummy and deserves to be exposed and trolled to the max. And to try to duplicate all of the tell-tale maker’s marks that differentiate Pedro’s stones from all others is yet another thing that I can tell from my conversation with Pedro that this new development irks him.
Side note, did anyone see his diorama of Storm Troopers drowning in mashed potatoes? It's a delicious masterpiece! Just add gravy.
ROTFLMAO
This is what I told you yesterday. when someone tries to hide their activity from others it is because they consider that what they are doing is a bad thing.
In any case, it is something that sooner or later every artist faces.
Thanks, Al.
In any case, it is something that sooner or later every artist faces.
Thanks, Al.
adamation93
New Member
Damn. I bought one of these and was so stoked to have it. Now I feel bad. Tbf Markpoon isn’t offering any right now and I got mine unpainted for $150 from LaRetrotienda…Idk what Markpoon charged, but. I left a positive review and everything :/ Now how can I enjoy it…
Don’t beat yourself up. It happens. You can’t catch every recaster all the time when making a purchase. You now know so you can avoid it in the future.
Markpoon sells on ebay under the name, Markpoon. He usually sells these for $280. He sold one recently but doesn’t have any listed in his eBay listings at the moment.
Not every prop maker is as talented as you. Some of us mere mortal prop makers, unlike you being on of the prop Gods, fall to the Dark Side of easy money temptation.
Sad, but true.
Plus scum gonna scum.
yeah, I understand of course and didn't want to sound arrogant either. But still, I don't get why people resort to stealing when there are so many other ways...
If you are talented enough to hack, you are talented enough to be a programer in a company.
if you are talented enough to recast other people's work, you can also just cast without stealing.
if you are talented enough to machine or run a CNC shop, you can find your own stuff to machine, you don't need to steal other people's plans, or if you can't reproduce from photos, buy a laser scanner like Fieldmarshall and do replicas of real parts, why not?!
if you are talented enough to source paper and print, you don't need to scan my harry potter letter, you can just use the original photos...
if you are running a scamming "business", you can run a regular business...
most of those thiefs, recasters and scammer do actual work, so I don't get why they can't do the same without stealing...
anyways, people are always going to be that way I guess so the best we can do is be carefull and look out for each other as a community.
cheers
joberg
Legendary Member
I agree with you...but for the one thing that makes it easy for these people to continue their shady operations: legal ways to go after these scums and law enforcement agencies to put them behind bars. Legal ways? Who can afford that? Unless it's a corp/company with a IP, law enforcement agencies have better things to do than going after Billy-Bob and his re-casting scam.
