QMx & Other New Sonic Screwdrivers Thread

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CT did mention a good point concerning the price tag of the Tesla gun and the complexity of that item vs the Sonic. He said we may very well get a $2,000.00 price on the sonic - this is one comment that I really hope is not the case in the end.

I really hope it is not that expensive either :lol
The pieces are really targeting two different markets, one the screen used accurate high end (as in same materials and construction as what the actor actually holds on set) display piece and the other the carry it around in your pocket lights and sound close enough convention piece. QMX is obviously taking that direction. I am betting the QMX stuff will be more expensive (it has to be). I am also betting it sells out super fast even if it is twice as expensive as the unlicensed pieces. Think about it, 100 - 500 pieces world wide (and layaway :lol :lol) ?

This whole thing has already played out in the EFX Star Wars threads (Just look at Darth Vader Legend edition to see how this is going to go). It is why QMX has taken the effort to get the original prop creator involved to make the masters and to clearly document the process that is going into the creation on these pieces.
 
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I doubt that will be a motivation in there release time (although it would be cool if they came out faster :lol). With having the shows prop makers name on a licensed piece in that low of a number they are going to sell them out one way or the other. If they feel that a piece is a threat they will simply do like they did with the Farnsworh and and have there lawyers send out a C&D request (I seriously doubt they are worried :lol).

A small but important correction on your post: The show's prop maker's name will not be on the licensed product, as the show's prop maker is not making them, Kenney is. And Kenney doesn't work on Doctor Who.
 
A small but important correction on your post: The show's prop maker's name will not be on the licensed product, as the show's prop maker is not making them, Kenney is. And Kenney doesn't work on Doctor Who.

You honestly think they are going to avoid putting something like "created directly from prototype by original DrWho master prop maker" (or something like that) in bold letters in the advertisement materials? Why would do that????


Kenney doesn't work on Doctor Who
My bad, he only works on Warehouse 13, I guess that is not a sufficient resume builder. :lol
 
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Greetings guys,
OK.... so what can I say. I had to go look for myself over at CT's blog and all I can say to him? LMAO

That's about it. First, I didn't even read the entire thing.... it was full of some "little" man who will "NEVER" work on anything important as a "film". He will continue to a sad person with a huge chip on his shoulders. That's it. He will only ever make replicas and will never know what it feels like to see your work on screen. Again... LMAO.

I said I wouldn't get involved and he has received my attention for one brief second. So, CT... here it is. You claim you looked at the sonic and it was close but still had a lot of flaws. You then say you will not point them out. Again.... LMAO Go ahead and point them out... if you can. Oh, you won't cause you're feeding off the fact that the members here never saw the real deal and will believe anything you say. Well my friend, I took a little look at your piece and found more problems with it then even you will care to admit. But, lets go in for the examination... shall we.

1. Your head is incorrect
2. The ball joint section is incorrect
3. The black end cap is wrong
4. the mid section is wrong
5. rear cylinder is incorrect as well

So, CT... there ya have it. What you wanted to do was to spark my blood enough to get me involved. Your blog made so many BS statements that I just wasn't worth my time...so I hit the little "X" at the top of the web page to remove it from my sight. What you now have is something you didn't want on your hands... my attention. I tried to remain neutral... to build a beautiful "licensed" prop for the fans regardless of what you were doing.... illegal or not. But, you couldn't resist... you couldn't be proactive and participate respectfully... you couldn't be a part of this. You made your choice.

So, CT.... this is just for you. Pay attention now cause here it comes.

Gentleman of the RPF... it has been my pleasure participating with all of you. I enjoyed talking with you all and trying to give help where I could. Or just to let some of you know how flattered I was when you were building something I made for a show and to let you know how much I loved the work. I asked that we all get along and keep the thread "calm" and just do what this site was intended for.... to be a discussion about props. However, even though I chose to not get involved with CT, he has tried to pick a fight with an industry guy. I can't involve myself with such negativity. My first respect is to the studios that hire me to build for them and the respect I have for the fans that make a show or movie what it is. So, how should I respond to CT?

I respond this way. CT is not recognized by the studios! period! His props are not licensed and are being made without their permission or better yet... a license. I can't participate with this forum about these particular props and have CT acknowledged and discussed. The thread is about QMx props not CT or anyone else. I had to have a long chat with Andy to give me the green light to chat and participate with you all on items I'm building for him. I will not participate in any threads that CT is acknowledged... I can't. I can not participate in any threads that support and purchase CT's unlicensed props. So, I ask all of you a couple things. Did you enjoy me coming on here and chatting with all of you? Did it make the thread interesting? Do we continue or does it go back to the back and forth bickering? I'm asking all of you to avoid CT's blog. I ask that you do not participate in his blog or even acknowledge him here. I ask that you do not support his unlicensed props. These props are the property of the studios and no one has the right to steal from them and make a profit on top of it without permission... without a license. That's the truth. Now, I can't force any of you to do anything. I only ask that we end all this garbage and make the threads interesting without the drama. That's why I'm here.... isn't that why you guys are here as well? If not... then there's no reason for me being here and I can no longer participate.

There it is guys, I can't be a part of this thread if we discuss CT at all. The drama is why so many industry guys don't even participate in these threads.... I thought everyone would benefit from it. Was I wrong? I made a promise to you all to deliver and exact replica of the original that was in the prop lock up on set. I can make this claim because of my experience in the industry. You will get the exact prop from the show. I'm not claiming anything but a fact! You can believe what I say or you can continue to follow the drama. Until you guys figure out how to you all want to proceed, I won't participate any longer.

I apologize for being a little harsh but it is what it is. CT has no business or anything to do with the QMx run of props. Therefore, I will not entertain him any longer and I ask the same.

Sincerely
Kenney
 
Here here! Thanks again for all your help and the copious amounts of information regarding the work you and QMX have done.
 
Fair enough request as it complies with the code of conduct.

Again, I reference the RPF Guidelines. "7) Selling, promoting sites, services or products for banned members or known re-casters is not permitted."
 
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Can I just point out that a few members on here have seen the prop and have very detailed HD reference. I don't have sides but support facts as they appear. To support my claim (as people will press for), I'm sure you'll agree that Tens sonic you had access to had a huge amount of paint missing on one side and the brass slider plate was 3/4 exposed. This is assuming that it is the sonic with two Phillips head screws and a flathead below the slider, which from your posts suggests so.

If you open a thread solely on the QMx sonic then I'm sure we can all chat without discussing third parties and purely on your sonic and accuracy to the original prop. Facts are all I'm interested in, full on accurate facts. In the past licensees have not given altogether truthful ones (colony cream and WOWs screen accurate claims for two). If we are given truthful facts then respect will obviously be earned. That is all we have ever asked for.
 
@Asp9mm..... It's like this.... I told you all I was going to keep it real with no BS. And I have done that. I know some of you have some nice high res pics of the 10th and I don't need to ask you or anyone else to prove that you do. Personal... I don't care. I'm not one of the norm that has done work or does work for various replica companies out there..... I'm actually one of the industry professional that make the ****. QMx has gone above and beyond here to try and deliver something truly nice for you guys. Listen.... you have two industry professionals that have contributed to this project. First you have Nick. I mean... come one guys..... the guy worked on the show for 6 years I believe. He made the **** and maintained/modified them. Then you have a mainline prop maker (who has designed and built for the movies a lot of the props you guys have come to love) going to make the sonics for you. How more accurate do you require? Why do some of you insist on giving this CT as much attention and credit as you do? I have seen his work and have examined it closely to come to the fact that his replica is in no way accurate. That's a fact! Has anyone ever asked this guy why he never got a license for the sonics? Do you honestly know? Well, fortunately... I do.

So, getting back the the tens. Asp9mm... you state:

"Can I just point out that a few members on here have seen the prop and have very detailed HD reference. I don't have sides but support facts as they appear. To support my claim (as people will press for), I'm sure you'll agree that Tens sonic you had access to had a huge amount of paint missing on one side and the brass slider plate was 3/4 exposed. This is assuming that it is the sonic with two Phillips head screws and a flathead below the slider, which from your posts suggests so.

If you open a thread solely on the QMx sonic then I'm sure we can all chat without discussing third parties and purely on your sonic and accuracy to the original prop. Facts are all I'm interested in, full on accurate facts. In the past licensees have not given altogether truthful ones (colony cream and WOWs screen accurate claims for two). If we are given truthful facts then respect will obviously be earned. That is all we have ever asked for."

What was you point? or were you just making a statement already made several times before? What do you mean by: "the facts as they appear"? Are you saying to me that the sonics I had access to was not accurate? Are you saing the one that I have an exact laser scan of every part inside and out is not accurate? Do you have detailed pics of the inside? or pics of its manufacture? Do you have detailed drawings or spec outlines or dimensions? We can all agree that the 10th that the studio has in it's lock up has been through the war. Right? You mention about the paint being wore off. And your point being? I have the guy who maintained it and has refinished it numerous times. Are you saying that when he refinished it or made upgrades that his work is not accurate? This... the guy who worked on the show directly with these sonics... not to mention made them and or maintained them. Seriously Asp9mm.... I think QMx has gone above and beyond "FACTS" that you expect. The facts we have from meetings with the studio prop guys to some of the heads at the studio to the information and materials/supplies they gave us exceeds the facts you're seeking. There are fcats that you and many others won't even or ever know about some these props. I'm not trying to be rude to you or insult you in anyway so please don't take my post as anything more then frustration. I'm frustrated that I have been placed in a category of others who you feel have failed you in some way when it comes to accuracy. I'm frustrated in the fact that we have to hear the same bickering over and over. Then when we finally move forward, you or someone else has reiterate what you have already stated. I and QMx have gone above and beyond on this project for you guys. I have tons of data to pick from to give you accuracy. I can make the 10th as it was first made or as it exists today. I can recreate the paint as it was intended or how it ended up. I don't need to prove to you or anyone else my abilities to give you nothing but FACTS. I chose to stay out of the bickering between members over accuracy... until I was brought into it. I find it sad how some can not be pleased even when you present original artists or professional from the shows. I know you guys expect high standards.... I can tell from the passion some of you voice when you bicker. I can tell you another FACT. A lot of the replica prop comapnies out there care more about money than accuracy. They cut corners to make it easier to produce the prop than to do it RIGHT. They don't care. If they can sell it attached to a license and make money.... why would they care. And this can open a whole other can of worms.... but considering you and some others want facts..... well... there's the plain truth of it all. The first conversation.... actually the first of many... between QMx and I was how to produce the most accurate props for the fans. That's what a great deal of our conversations are about. Just like when I went to the UK..... I told them I needed to come along to be able to get everything I needed. Pictures were not good enough. I can tell you of some replica builders I know that claim accuracy but yet I watched them take superficial photos of a hero prop to replicate without one dimension. Then pass it off as 100 percent accurate. LMAO! I don't use photos like that. I use laser scanners.... one of which is around $80,000. Then I don't just scan the entire thing...... I pull it apart down to nuts and bolts. I make sure I know what the screws were and even if they were cut down screws. If they were cut down.... I recreate that as well. That's the level of accuracy I do.

So, in the end I will give you a sonic. I will give you a sonic that will be 100 percent dead balls accurate. I will give that statement without one shred of hesitation. If you feel to continue to question its accuracy... without ever even having the ability to take apart and examine how it was built.... then just don't buy it.

Asp9mm.... listen... I know what you want. I wouldn't expect anything less if I was you. BUT, remember one thing brother.... you got Nick and I working for you. I hope you can look past any past replica companies that failed you and anyone else by stating accuracy and taking your money. I hope you can not hold what someone else has done against me. You have made your views very clear to me and everyone else and I have heard you my friend. I have heard you!

So, with all that venting.... (and you have to allow me to do that because after the current events.... I think I earned that vent)... how do we move forward? It's obvious many of you feel the same way I do and have shown your support. And for that... I give you my sincere thank you. For Asp9mm or anyone else who has voiced your opinions and demands for FACTS..... I have listened, I hear you, and I agree with you.

Again... how do we move forward? Well, what if I asked you what are you looking for? What is it about the prop that you need answered that you feel may be not accurate? Keep in mind that screen grabs form the show are not accurate to the true dimensions of the actual prop. What can I do for you? Whay do you want to see in the 10th? To be perfectly honest, I spoke to Andy today and he asked me what I was going to do about the manufacture of the sonics. There is a battery connection issue that I need to address. It's a design issue. Keep in mind that when Nick built a prop, he was under fire to get it done ASAP for a shoot. Therefore, it got made quickly with not as much thought as there should have been. But why would there be? The prop is made to "get the shot". It's not made to be a replica with many years of use. So, what did I tell Andy? I told him that making it exactly like the original is the way to go. It's what the majority wants. Do I leave the same exact way the batteries get connected or do I make it better? I personally would want it dead on because it would sit in my collectors case most of the time. I would want to claim its dead on when someone asks to see it. If your reason is for cosplay... then I say buy the toy. What about the paint? Do you know what it is? I do. I know exactly what it is that was used. Does CT? Does the paint have issues with wear if you drop it or don't care for it properly? Yes, it does have issues. Do I still want to use it? Yes. Why? Because the stuff is no longer made and is extremely hard to get. Would you like to have something made with the same materials? the same flaws as the originals? the same care needed as the originals? I know I would. Especially when those materials are no longer available down the road. Keep in mind this stuff does have a shelf life. You guys tell me. What do you want me to do... for you?
 
As for communication: please keep it up Kenney. The more is shared with the community the more included we feel.

As for the replicas: The only person I can answer for is me but this is my wish list:

1) Affordable replica which is as close to indistinguishable from the set used prop on the outside (but with sound if there is room).
2) Shored up interior which will survive day to day handling and use.
3) Ease of battery replacement
What I’d love to see but never be able to afford at my current income level also would be an artisan level replica where the work is so dead on to the original it is impossible to tell them apart until you open it up and see the limited number and QMx logo inside the piece. I’m sure there would be a few people with disposable income out there that would kill for something like that as well.
 
I think he summed it up nicely.

I'd love to see one that was dead on, but think there is a market for one that is cleaned up a bit. I'd say similar to how eFX released the Legend edition Vader, as well as a Limited edition.
 
Hey folks,

looks like we are through with this thread, right? Especially since a new thread solely about the QMx has been opened up, and this thread here slowly evolves into some kind of "offline" discussion between everyone and CT.

We changed the rules about discussion of banned member and their products quite a bit in the recent past, and I have laid out in this thread what´s okay and what not.

The current version of an "offline" discussion, with CT replying via his blog, is a no-go, because the discussion would move more and more away (and already has) from the initial topic and even the "revised version".

Please continue the discussion of QMx sonic screwdrivers in the new thread, and unless there actually is a new sonic out there that someone has in hand and can compare to a QMx, just don´t discuss it. See RPF member guidelines about "promotion of website by a banned member", as previously mentioned.

This thread will remain locked.

Regards,
Michael
RPF staff
 
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OK.... so CT strikes again. LMAO. He finds a pic of me from an old scan I did, He then has the aid of one of your RPF members to spy and help him. That would be

"thetasigma"

Yup, this guy emails me to start up some garbage. I asked him to stop emailing. He then forwards my PM to CT so he can yet again post on his blog. Not cool. Oh... and CT.... I don't know what your sources say about me... but I'm far from a talentless hack.
 
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Since you're talking about him, does this mean we can talk about CT now?

I'll get my coat, lol.....
 
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