PropShop announces TFA Props!

Newbie here from a production/materials standpoint:

why is there an expectation that some of these prop shop 3D prints will degrade or deteriorate over time?

is there some type of care recommended to forestall the degradation process?

Apparently, don't play with it, don't touch it and don't leave it exposed to UV light?
 
The detail of the Anovos Standard helmet may actually be better than the Premier. I asked about that on the Anovos Facebook page. They said injection molding is better at capturing the fine texture than fiberglass. Obviously the fiberglass will be heavier and more rigid.

Good info! I wonder if the "metalized elements" and "mesh material" will be the same. They're definitely trying to sell the Premiere line harder with the write up.

Premiere :
Metalized elements to capture the accurate finish and distinct weathered scoring of the original screen-used face mask.
Precise mesh material used in visor, replicated and positioned based from screen-used artifact.

Standard:
Outer shell and facemask are made of injection-molded plastic with metallized elements.
Visor is made of mesh material to duplicate the original screen-used helmet.
 
The detail of the Anovos Standard helmet may actually be better than the Premier. I asked about that on the Anovos Facebook page. They said injection molding is better at capturing the fine texture than fiberglass. Obviously the fiberglass will be heavier and more rigid.

This is complete nonsense. Well laid fibreglass will capture fingerprint level detail in a cast. I don't know who is running the Anovos facebook page, but they clearly aren't very knowledgeable about casting.
 
This is complete nonsense. Well laid fibreglass will capture fingerprint level detail in a cast. I don't know who is running the Anovos facebook page, but they clearly aren't very knowledgeable about casting.

The difference may be the Anovos are mass produced. I doubt they take as much time and care as someone carefully making one at a time.

It could be a very slight difference. The only example we have to go by is the standard and 501st FO Stormtrooper helmets. Those don't have the texture detail so may not be a good example.
 
I think it should say 'on hold' rather than 'sold out'. I think they have reached the limit of what they are comfortable making. Once all the orders are fulfilled, they will put it up for sale again.


Upon further review, it really doesn't matter if the Anovos Kylo Ren Premier line ($600) is a limited edition, since the Prop Shop Kylo Ren helmet ($2,000) isn't a limited edition.

So really, the notion of "limited run exclusivity" driving up the prices of Prop Shop doesn't apply in this instance. The Vader Helmet and the Blood stained FO TK bucket? Sure. But those prices have been double inflated - apparently to be on the safe side. :)
 
I'd wait. I have a feeling they won't sell many and will drop their price or another cheaper just as accurate alternative will rock up. I don't know of anyone who's ordered from them yet. In our little corner of the world that's unheard of when something like this pops up. :)

Ben

I ordered the Kylo Saber yesterday. Just over $1500 with import duty, shipping, and tax. Told myself if they ever put out an official Kylo I was going to get it early, and not be stuck trying to find a deal on a used one down the road. Was not expecting $1500, but luckily I have a pretty understanding wife lol.

No communication as of yet beyond the confirmation email. Will update this throughout the process if anyone is interested.
 
I ordered the Kylo Saber yesterday. Just over $1500 with import duty, shipping, and tax. Told myself if they ever put out an official Kylo I was going to get it early, and not be stuck trying to find a deal on a used one down the road. Was not expecting $1500, but luckily I have a pretty understanding wife lol.

No communication as of yet beyond the confirmation email. Will update this throughout the process if anyone is interested.

PLEASE share photos once you have it in hand!
 
PLEASE share photos once you have it in hand!

Will do. I'm curious about it as well, the description states it has forged and cast parts in addition to the 3d printed parts, plus it was commented on in an interview with their Art Director that it was heavy. I'll be sure to let everyone know once I have it.
 
Pretty sure it is just 3D printed.

Juts read more details on the site. It says that it's "made of a composition of 3D printing materials, forged items, and cast items," so it would seem that metal is certainly involved, possibly the majority of the saber or at least the main body, with some of the greebles being what's 3D-printed.

Edit: Ah, was typing at the same time as me. Beat me to it...
 
Arsttls Lntrn did indeed reach out to me via DM. I appreciate him popping in to clarify the situation. I've reached out to various people for clarification, and while I'm traveling right now, I'll cover the correction and credit the proper folks very soon. it was completely unintentional. Sorry about all that.

I'm disinclined to defend myself when I feel no defense is necessary. I've always enjoyed giving credit where credit is due.
Nonetheless.
I didn't take credit for the incredible work I commissioned and paid Mike Scott to do on the Clavius suit from 2001. Post SDCC 2015, we did an episode of Still Untitled that specifically covered his excellent work on the suit. Post con is where I historically cover the finer details of my costumes. Mike and I corresponded about it at the time and he appreciated how I covered his craftsmanship. Minute 26 here:
http://www.tested.com/art/makers/534682-spacesuits-and-quadcopter-safety-7212015/
 
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Arsttls Lntrn did indeed reach out to me via DM. I appreciate him popping in to clarify the situation. I've reached out to various people for clarification, and while I'm traveling right now, I'll cover the correction and credit the proper folks very soon. it was completely unintentional. Sorry about all that.

I'm disinclined to defend myself when I feel no defense is necessary. I've always enjoyed giving credit where credit is due.
Nonetheless.
I didn't take credit for the incredible work I commissioned and paid Mike Scott to do on the Clavius suit from 2001. Post SDCC 2015, we did an episode of Still Untitled that specifically covered his excellent work on the suit. Post con is where I historically cover the finer details of my costumes. Mike and I corresponded about it at the time and he appreciated how I covered his craftsmanship. Minute 26 here:
http://www.tested.com/art/makers/534682-spacesuits-and-quadcopter-safety-7212015/
Well, you can't be expected to know everything. I imagine you were fed the same line as the rest of us.
 
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Pretty sure it is just 3D printed.

People tend to forget there are tons of different materials you can 3D print in. 3D printed does not mean fragile, easily broken, or easily decayed by light. You can print in various plastics, STEEL, Stainless, Gold, silver, platinum, and titanium. Not that those are very affordable in any real size, but it's doable.

I have a black SS print of the radio tubes that go on an E11 I made. $40 or so shipped from shapeways. ($5 in plastic). So it is do-able, but it has a hefty mark up.

3D printed from these guys could very well be a very sturdy material. If I'm directly a flick with a 200M budget and the hero prop is likely to be used over 2 or 3 flicks, i've got zero problem printing a few hero's out of SS at 1500 a pop. Just saying. In the grand scheme, it's chump change.

Here's the thing. If shapeways wants to charge people around 1200 for a SS printed saber, odds are their cost is closer to 600. Make printing props for studio use in that level of material that much more do-able.
 
Prop shop Replicas Credit where credit is due

Just the other day Tested/Adam Savage posted a video show off his Kylo Ren Helmet (https://youtu.be/rCaNa2L-heE) Test is usually a great show but this episode made my blood boil a little . I prosume this all come down to misinformation (not something we should expect from a Myth buster) .

But please before any one runs out and spends there hard urned money on some thing they think is made by the same people and in the same way the real on screen props where made. Be warned.

Pierre Bohannas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1318420/) team of costume fx guys and girls built the actual props. They where CAD designed and printed (not by Prop shop) then they where Vacum moulded and vacuum cast in urethan by Pierres mold team.

The company PROP SHOP where then given a licence after the film was made by Disney to scan assets and print them in there shop. Prop shop did do some work on the film but it was found there prints where not robust enough for shooting. ( as they use an investment printing system not SLA ) but thats not relevant.

The bit I object to is the fact that this video makes it sound like your buying a product made by the very people and company who made the actual props. This is blatantly not true.
Being called Prop Shop and being based at pinewood studios I can see how people get confused. Its always been an absolute no no in the film industry to take credit for other peoples work just how recasting is thought of here.
 
I'd also like to mention that Adam Savage claimed that the hero stuff was all 3D printed. It wasn't. A lot of propshop's weapons were, but ALL our helmets were cast from molds made from 3D prints. I myself made Kylo Ren's helmet mold. We needed the durability because until 3D printed material gets better they're far to brittle to have them last a full shoot on a principal actor.

Ironhead studios is doing a lot of direct from the "printer" to principal actor pieces.. Seem to be working out very well.. I believe their methods and materials are a tad more advanced than most people would have access to however. If I was told correctly, every Panther helmet on Civil War was a 3D print.. No molds or casting involved. Amazing how far technologies have come!

Would absolutely love to see the molds used for the Kylo helmet. Hope those pop up some day.
Were the metallic effects done with Imperial Surface Tech products?
 
"“This is the first year I’m doing incognito with a partner,” Savage told EW. “I’ve been building this suit from 2001 for five years now. It was close to completion when Chris called me up.”"

Well, I guess it missed the Entertainment Weekly article, too.

Better late than never. Good on you.

I'm done.
 
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