PropShop announces TFA Props!

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Where did he claim that he did it all by himself? Usually he goes out of his way to give credit to other artists and the RPF in particular. What's with all the hate? I don't get it.

It was in the video with him talking about the suit. He never credits Mike Scott for his work.

I am not spouting hate, but I am saying he doesn't always give due credit.

 

[craigjohn]

I don't think anovos sells out in the traditional sense of the word. Kind of like with the TK set, they're listing it as sold out for now, but will have more later. If they were selling out traiditionally, they'd be limited runs and would say so.

Interesting point. The regular line might refresh, but their premier line? I haven't found anything on their website that suggests either/or.

Has the Kylo Ren helmet shipped, since it's saying it's sold out?

EDIT:

I did notice an interesting line.

With the Imperial Stormtrooper - there is a line that reads:

"Thank you for making our first armor kit a success! Current Stock is Sold Out.


With the Kylo Ren Premier line helmet, it is simply listed as "Sold Out" - with no indication that regarding "current stock" or "first run".

It could be an oversight, but perhaps not...

 

[RhinoActual]

Here I am thinking that Anovos products are expensive. This is a whole new level.

 

[Vandark]

Interesting point. The regular line might refresh, but their premier line? I haven't found anything on their website that suggests either/or.

Has the Kylo Ren helmet shipped, since it's saying it's sold out?

EDIT:

I did notice an interesting line.

With the Imperial Stormtrooper - there is a line that reads:

"Thank you for making our first armor kit a success! Current Stock is Sold Out.


With the Kylo Ren Premier line helmet, it is simply listed as "Sold Out" - with no indication that regarding "current stock" or "first run".

It could be an oversight, but perhaps not...

I think it should say 'on hold' rather than 'sold out'. I think they have reached the limit of what they are comfortable making. Once all the orders are fulfilled, they will put it up for sale again.

 

[FastballSpecial]

Has anyone mentioned yet whether the propshop Graflexes have plastic vs. rubber grips? Need to order some soon from Roy in order to be delivered to my next visitor coming to South America... Would like to get the right stuff the first time to match what was used on TFA Graflexes.

I'm wondering the same thing. I would hope they are plastic but I wish the descriptions of the replicas had more of the exact materials used for each.

 

[Lear60man]

They were smart by offering them made to order, less overhead and no pieces collecting dust. As for the price, they will sell what ever the market asks. 99% of the world has no idea that our little corner exists. For them, this is the holy grail.

 

[mortifactor]

Hey RPF,


I've felt compelled to make account here and put a few things straight about these replicas. I've lurked on the forum for many, many, many years. I love what you guys do and how much detail, research and love you put into what you make and I know how much real replica props and screen accurate minutiae means to you guys.


The main thing that's made me register has been Adam's tested review of his Kylo Ren helmet and the misinformation he has about propshop and what they made for the film. I made a couple of comments on the youtube video and I've looked for a private email for him but I couldn't find one, I know he posts/reads/knows people here so I figured this was the best way to get the message out to him and to you too.


I'm the guy that sculpted Kylo Ren's helmet, I did it in conjunction with the chief concept artist and the costume designer and despite common misconception we had absolutely nothing to do with propshop. I was part of an entire costume FX team that worked for Pierre Bohanna in house for the production full of talented staff and expertise and it saddens me to hear a fellow prop modeller (accidentally, I'm sure) credit entirely the wrong team for all the hard work and talent due to misinformation.


Propshop did indeed make a lot of the weapons and other stuff for Force Awakens and they had many talented makers on their roster that I'm personal friends with and by no means would I ever discredit their work, they did an amazing job. Propshop's claims that they made “Rey's saber” etc are all true, and at no point have they claimed credit for our work, but it's just that they just haven't denied it either. They had nothing to do with the Stormtrooper armour (aside from the mounting on the side of the leg for the weapon!) or Kylo Ren's costume at all, that was all us (if you're interested, check IMDB and we're all there under costume modeller).

The 3D printed helmet replicas they are selling ARE based on 3D scan data from our hero stuff, but they're not the original files or 3D print stls. I can't speak for the vader print or the sabers, they probably ARE based on original stl files, but I know for a fact that the helmets we printed were done by a different company to propshop so they never had our stl files. I don't believe their $2000 helmet will be any more accurate than the ANOVOS one, they're both basing their replicas on exactly the same scan data.


I'd also like to mention that Adam Savage claimed that the hero stuff was all 3D printed. It wasn't. A lot of propshop's weapons were, but ALL our helmets were cast from molds made from 3D prints. I myself made Kylo Ren's helmet mold. We needed the durability because until 3D printed material gets better they're far to brittle to have them last a full shoot on a principal actor.


Sorry for the long post, and also sorry to sound a crying child throwing toys out of the pram, usually I keep quiet in this sort of thing and out of public eye, but I have a lot of respect for Adam and I've watched him since the early days of Mythbusters and what he's done for the maker community is fantastic, I'm sure this wasn't vindictive or intentionally misleading.


I have total respect for you guys and it's great to know that people notice all the extra effort we put into our work and that it's (usually!) appreciated by a small minority and to think of you spending $2000 on something that you believe is a 100% replica of an original screen used prop I find distressing and I wouldn't want you to be misled by wrong information.

He has an account here and posts/reads. You can notify him to your post by typing @ then his user name. I think he is asavage. He is a fan of your work from what I can tell, no need to be shy!

Sorry, had to quote the whole post. Am somehow on the full site version while on mobile and my phone can't handle deleting large chunks of text!

 

[ggriffaw]

I think it should say 'on hold' rather than 'sold out'. I think they have reached the limit of what they are comfortable making. Once all the orders are fulfilled, they will put it up for sale again.

I think reopening for orders will depend on the product. Some may have enough demand for additional runs, but others will not. I would be surprised if Anovos offers the AT-AT driver again. If Kylo Ren has the same helmet in Ep VIII, I would expect the Premier to be offered again. If it is a different helmet, they might not. They will have plenty of the standard.

I fully expect additional runs of the OT Stormtrooper.

 

[Son of Skywalker]

I think reopening for orders will depend on the product. Some may have enough demand for additional runs, but others will not. I would be surprised if Anovos offers the AT-AT driver again. If Kylo Ren has the same helmet in Ep VIII, I would expect the Premier to be offered again. If it is a different helmet, they might not. They will have plenty of the standard.

I fully expect additional runs of the OT Stormtrooper.

Well damn. I will be sorely disappointed if they don't produce anymore Kylo Premiere helmets.

 

[ggriffaw]

Well damn. I will be sorely disappointed if they don't produce anymore Kylo Premiere helmets.

The detail of the Anovos Standard helmet may actually be better than the Premier. I asked about that on the Anovos Facebook page. They said injection molding is better at capturing the fine texture than fiberglass. Obviously the fiberglass will be heavier and more rigid.

You could always order the PropShop version! Since PropShop didn't make the original and the final prop was not 3d printed, I don't know how the high price can be justified.

 

[tubachris85x]

The detail of the Anovos Standard helmet may actually be better than the Premier. I asked about that on the Anovos Facebook page. They said injection molding is better at capturing the fine texture than fiberglass. Obviously the fiberglass will be heavier and more rigid.

You could always order the PropShop version! Since PropShop didn't make the original and the final prop was not 3d printed, I don't know how the high price can be justified.

Because Disney

 

[Kroenen77]

99% of the world has no idea that our little corner exists. For them, this is the holy grail.

Good,that I´m a member here!:lol

 

[Jeyl]

12 pages in.

Has anyone here bought anything from these folks since the announcement?

 

[Art Andrews]

12 pages in.

Has anyone here bought anything from these folks since the announcement?

I am still debating the Kylo saber.

 

[gizmo]

I am still debating the Kylo saber.

I'd wait. I have a feeling they won't sell many and will drop their price or another cheaper just as accurate alternative will rock up. I don't know of anyone who's ordered from them yet. In our little corner of the world that's unheard of when something like this pops up.

Ben

 

[dmount]

I really want Poe's helmet, but damn, that $1500 + $305 price tag is a deal breaker. I just sold my Limited EFX Darth Vader for $1600 and that still wouldn't cover it. I'm hoping Anovos does Poe's helmet.

 

[mtrixman]

I'd wait. I have a feeling they won't sell many and will drop their price or another cheaper just as accurate alternative will rock up. I don't know of anyone who's ordered from them yet. In our little corner of the world that's unheard of when something like this pops up.

Ben

That's what I'm doing. Even the lingo in their FAQs seem to keep the door open for price changes in the future

21. Will product prices ever change?

Due to unforeseen disturbances in the Force, price changes may occur. If the price of an item is lowered within 7 days of your purchase, you may contact our Customer Service Team to receive a price adjustment.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I am still debating the Kylo saber.

So? Who's winning?

 

[Spyhunter2k]

I am still debating the Kylo saber.

It's the most logical one of these props to get, especially if it's metal.

Their helmets are 3d-printed, unlike the resin ones used for actual production that, as we've just found out, were made by a different team. They're out for me.

The Rey saber you can make yourself from a vintage Graflex, so that's out.

The Rey staff...well it will look just like the one in the film but I have a hard time believing that after JJ made them 3D print a smaller one than their initial cast-from-real-world parts version, that they still didn't cast this and use a resin one on the actual film set, making a 3D printed one inaccurate.

The melted Vader is nice, but again...3D printed. I'm not paying $3500 for the rights to the digital file, someone pressing "PRINT," and a better-than-average paint job.

The Kylo saber used in the film was actually made by these folks, you can't make one yourself from vintage parts, and even if it's not metal, well at least several of the sabers on set were 3D prints, so yeah, that would be the only one tempting me.

 

[Zappa100]

Newbie here from a production/materials standpoint:

why is there an expectation that some of these prop shop 3D prints will degrade or deteriorate over time?

is there some type of care recommended to forestall the degradation process?