Prometheus (Post-release)
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Too Much Garlic
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Well, better let the kids know that oral sex is bad.
Too Much Garlic
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I'll bet that Shaw's blind faith saves the day regarding the engineers' interest in destroying our world.
So glad he's not involved. The script he produced was poor in comparison to what originally was. Though... that second half was just waste anyway.
So glad he's not involved. The script he produced was poor in comparison to what originally was. Though... that second half was just waste anyway.
rodneyfaile
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Watched it again.
Love it more every with every viewing.
Yes it has flaws, but in my opinion, only about 1% of what people are complaining about are actual flaws. The rest is just them not "getting" it. Maybe this isn't the movie for them. They should move on to something else.
Love it more every with every viewing.
Yes it has flaws, but in my opinion, only about 1% of what people are complaining about are actual flaws. The rest is just them not "getting" it. Maybe this isn't the movie for them. They should move on to something else.
rodneyfaile
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I wish some of the "haters" would post a list of their favorite movies so I could demonstrate how easy it is to nitpick. Then again, I wouldn't want to sink to their level. It's more fun to enjoy things for what they are.
I want to watch this movie but I can't. I spent 17 bucks for the DVD and it starts skipping about 30 minutes into the movie. The movie is brand new, not a flaw on the disc. It skips in my DVD player and also my PS3. This really sucks. I am not sure if the store would take it back after being opened. This happen to anyone else?
Sorry to derail, but I want to see Prometheus really bad. D@mn.
Sorry to derail, but I want to see Prometheus really bad. D@mn.
Too Much Garlic
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They'll take it back if it is flawed.
There's a reason Vladimir gets killed, comes back to life and disappears without a trace? What did I not get? I think a character magically coming back to life is a pretty important occurrence.
rodneyfaile
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Like I said, nitpicking about some character who was essentially an extra.
Prometheus is an awesome movie. Every movie has flaws, because people are not perfect. You can find flaws in EVERY movie.
I think people would enjoy themselves a whole lot more if they didn't go into movies on a "seek and destroy" mission of hate.
If you go into things looking to find errors, guess what? you probably will! Why not just accept things as the entertainment it was intended for.
Sure, there are bad movies out there, but not nearly as many as the internet haters make out to be.
Nitpicking is hardly my justification for hating Prometheus. As I've said many times over the years, this film presented me with a huge obstacle to over come and the price was just not worth it. That obstacle was the film getting me to accept that the fossilized skeleton seen in ALIEN was not in fact a skeleton, but a suit. A suit that in Prometheus is worn by a human. A human that made more humans on Earth, and also made the xenomorphs. Hence, the xenomorphs are not aliens. They are our creation. Taking the 'alien' out of ALIEN is not something I would call 'beneficial' to the franchise, and making the Space Jockeys human ruined all of my childhood imaginations on how this very 'alien' species could function.
That is not a nitpick. That is decades of love and imagination being squashed simply to tell a poor story. As far as my opinion goes, you cannot convince me that making the Space Jockeys human was a good idea. Even if you did, I would still tell you that the story is so poorly thought out that whatever good material there may be is completely drowned out by so many elements involving poorly thought out characters and emotional scenes being almost comedic.
Too Much Garlic
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Rodney, just because someone doesn't agree with you on the quality of the film, doesn't make them a hater. Just as well as those really liking a film aren't idiots, or any other derogatory term. Either you like it or either you don't. I don't like it - I find it to be a flop of a story - but it would be wrong of me to try to convince anyone who likes it to switch to my view or beat them over the head because they don't agree with me.
All films have flaws, sure. In my view this one has a severe narrative flaw - some of it was there originally, most of it was introduced to it by Lindelof, the rest was done with poor editing, such as the unnamed extra who no one knows who the **** is is killed in an incident that feels - at least to me - so left field pointless only to show up alive again later. That to me is a major ****-up editing wise, but seeing as no one registers who the heck the character is anyway, I didn't even notice it - I just noticed there was a lot of characters all of a sudden and the only thing I could think was: where the heck did THEY come from and who are they other than cannon fodder?
I didn't like AvP... and this one felt exactly like that movie - even directly copied several things from it - it just felt fragmented and overly puffed and ultimately pretty pointless to me.
All films have flaws, sure. In my view this one has a severe narrative flaw - some of it was there originally, most of it was introduced to it by Lindelof, the rest was done with poor editing, such as the unnamed extra who no one knows who the **** is is killed in an incident that feels - at least to me - so left field pointless only to show up alive again later. That to me is a major ****-up editing wise, but seeing as no one registers who the heck the character is anyway, I didn't even notice it - I just noticed there was a lot of characters all of a sudden and the only thing I could think was: where the heck did THEY come from and who are they other than cannon fodder?
I didn't like AvP... and this one felt exactly like that movie - even directly copied several things from it - it just felt fragmented and overly puffed and ultimately pretty pointless to me.
rodneyfaile
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I know. Someone is not a hater just for not liking Prometheus.
Not everyone is going to like the same things. The world would be a pretty boring place if we did.
But when someone continues to go on and on repeatedly, investing a lot of their time into describing over and over exactly why they didn't like it, I think it is safe to say they "hated" it.
If someone consistently hates more movies than they like, finding fault with some aspect of almost everything, I would classify that person as a hater.
There are plenty of great movies out there. I would say far more good ones than bad ones. If someone finds themselves constantly hating everything, well in my opinion, they need to adjust why they are going to see a movie in the first place.
The internet has become a place to complain about everything. I feel this constant complaining has caused some to go into movies with the most pessimistic outlook. They are on a seek and destroy mission to expose every mistake, instead of sitting back and allowing themselves to be entertained. Maybe if they took time to appreciate how much work went into all of the great things someone crafted for their enjoyment, they might actually have a good time.
Too Much Garlic
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I go on and on about the Star Wars prequels... sure, I can be called a hater... but when it comes down to it, I feel more like I was so severely disappointed and that is driving me to continue to talk about them, rather than me actually hating them. Same with the Terminator sequels and tv-series.
Just as well as those loving the movie wants to talk and talk and talk about it, it seems to me to be the same with movies that really disappoints. Movies people just plainly hates... well... sure, there are those who go on and on and on about that too... hmm... maybe my theory is flawed that it's only disappointed people continuing to voice their opinion. Yeah, never mind me.
I still think the first half of the original script had the best potential - the latter part in any of the scripts and the movie was pretty pointless to me. And there was only very few things I liked about the Lindelof script. Overall it just felt they were hamming up for the horror aspect in the completely wrong and pointless direction - it just felt completely out of place and wrong to me + the fact I really didn't care about any of the characters, but that could probably have been saved if the latter half of the movie had been completely different.
The terraforming equipment dismantling in the Spaihts script just felt important - humans stripmining something before realizing what they are destroying - and that could/should have set off consequences in the pyramid silo interior - where it basically destroys Shaw's and Holloway's encounter with the Space Jockey species, basically making humans having killed them by the ignorance and stupidity and greed and that it was the human's actions on that greeting moon that caused the Space Jockeys to want to wipe us out would be much stronger and make much more sense to me than what we got in the movie. But hey... what's done is done... no point really to try to change that.
Having humans being the monster in this series would have been a more welcome concept.
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