Prometheus (Post-release)

Even with all the blood splattering moments and that really awkward surgery scene, this film still felt like it was a PG-13 movie at heart. Profanity for instance follows the PG-13 guidelines by having only one F-word in the whole film while not being used to refer to a sexual act. I was almost concerned that I was watching the PG-13 cut of the film when that one f bomb was muffled by static.

Still, Space Jockeys R us, and I don't like that.


I think that speaks to the very nature of the film they were trying to make. It's not a horror film, it's a very traditional sic-fi film. I think they want to open this up to a wider audience then the ALIEN franchise demographics. In my theater there were a wide range of viewers which I found interesting and a testament to what prior to seeing this seemed like confused marketing. It's a sic-fi adventure with some gross parts.

Bring on the sequels, say I.
 
Visually it was great and I enjoyed it kind of, but I was taken out of it by the pacing and editing.

Too many events that were just "oh well no biggie", time to move on to the next scene. That and some major plot holes. Since David Lindelof was involved I guess should have expected that.

Dead guy comes to life and takes out most of the the crew and we jump to the next scene. No time to discuss.

Oh hey, nice cesarean stapling you got there, did you get that thing out I was just going to leave in you for no reason at all. No hard feelings right, lets go talk to the alien. :confused

Lots of plot holes.

Exactly how did all the earth cultures know of the bio weapons planet location??:facepalm

If there are any engineers left and they wanted earth wiped out why not just go back to the bio weapons planet grab a ship, seems there are plenty just laying around and fly to earth?

What was the point of the engineer going after Shaw? Why not just walk to the next ship take off and then go to earth?

I was entertained somewhat but after I am kind of like what the....

Not sure if I will see it again.


My biggest complaint as well. The secondary characters were poorly written and the screenplay wasn't good in parts. We just discovered alien life...how case, let's just leave. I mean these are scientists, no? Some of them act like a-holes who shouldn't be there. Even Shaw's boyfriend drinking in disappointment after the discovery because he can't talk to them was weak.
 
Heavy Future: Review for Prometheus

When Ridley Scott chose to go with a new mythology and story for Prometheus (based on writer Damon Lidelof's suggestions), it would have been much better if they had gone all the way and completely distanced their movie from Alien. No matter how good of a script they would have weaved, Prometheus could still never match up to Ridley Scott's original Alien. And for sometime during pre-production the movie supposedly didn't have anything to do with Alien. But the Alien brand is too big to ignore, so things from Alien ended up being shoehorned into Prometheus.

Comparisons to Alien is not really fair as the tone of Prometheus is vastly different, of course they tried to mimic the atmosphere of Alien in the trailers for Prometheus. The movie needs to be appreciated and judged on its own merits. But those merits are definitely not for story narrative and characterizations.

In fiction especially in the horror genre its common for characters to do things which are redundantly stupid, in order for the story to move forward while characters face imminent deaths or face other dire consequences. But such mediocre writing was not expected from this movie. Damon Lindelof is getting lot of heat for the script, though it's important to remember original writer Jon Spaihts could be equally responsible for how the movie script played out. Another problem for me was with the pacing in the second half of the film and how the rest of the crew seems oblivious to the well-being of one of their key crew member.

I wanted to love this movie, but disappointed that it didn't happen. But despite my criticism, I liked the movie, at least I enjoyed parts of it. The production design is gorgeous while inducing that cold feel. I couldn't really tell which was CGI and which are real locations and set designs. Noomi Rapace gives a strong performance as Elizabeth Shaw, getting to root for her is something that came off naturally. But the finer moments and interactions in the movie really comes from Michael Fassbender as David, especially when he parallels his existence to the humans. The musical score by Marc Streitenfeld isn't memorable except for the track "Friend from the Past" (which is taken from the original Alien score), but surprisingly my favourite track "Life" which does stand out comes from composer Harry Gregson-Williams, including the variation of that track with "We Were Right".

The finale of LOST left many fans disappointed for not answering many of the mysteries that writer Damon Lindelof and his team had built up. But I still loved the finale to LOST, the emotional punch and closure dwarfed my need for answers by the end of the finale episode. Similarly there are some questions that goes unanswered in Prometheus, but I find that appealing to a certain degree as it gives room for more speculation and discussion. And though theories of our own existence and possibilities of ancient astronauts have been discussed for decades now, this movie will now again spark up those topics to the lesser known people.

The movie's marketing team are responsible as to why this movie had no real mystery to it. I had only seen the teaser and the first full trailer, yet that was sufficient to predict the third act of the film. But thankfully the movie still managed to save some bits of mystery in the end and I was quite pleased with how the movie ended on a high note.

I hope with a stronger script Ridley Scott tries to pull off a better film for the sequel.
 
I'm not sure about that. From what I understand the original screenplay was very much a direct ALIEN prequel and Lindenhoff moved it away from that. Although I wanted a direct ALIEN prequel, I can accept and very much enjoy what we got. Yes, it's a lighter fare, it's not ALIEN, but should it have been? But as I said above, I agree totally with the screenplay and secondary character reactions to what was happening.
 
I read back a few pages and didn't see this question so:

Why did the celestial map lead to the alien 'biological weapons of mass destruction facilities' and not say, their home planet instead?

btw I thoroughly enjoyed the move.
 
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I'm in the camp that they should of made this movie without trying to tie it in to ALIEN in any way. All it did was muck things up and really didn't help get us from that movie to what happened in ALIEN. We saw stuff similar to facehuggers, but not really. Saw things like ALIEN but not really.

Also, for being a ship full of scientists they all belonged to the IQ 80 club.

When the movie ended and the credits started to roll there was this odd silence in the theater and then the disgruntled murmurs started filter through. I turned to my wife and said "Hear that? That's the sound of mass disappointment." All in all I feel a bit ripped off for seeing it and would suggest waiting till it hit's netflix.

Just my $.02
 
My favorite character in the whole film was the probe that was stuck at the end of a hallway next to the door leading to the derelict ship. It made a chime that I quite liked.
 
I avoided all ads and trailers, as I do with all movies now. [you're just cheating yourself to see them.]
Still, there were no big surprises or emotional involvement. It was a 'bunch of scenes' movie. The crew didn't care that someone had died.The love of her life died horribly and she was ready to go in the next scene, because the script required her to be.
The highest emotion I had was when the compu-doc cut her open. Funny that a cut was worse than all that cool gore.
Didn't much care for the suits either. The silver dock workers were best. The eight wheeled thing was cool, but it just drove back and forth like a bus.
The HAL-like quality of David-8 was a nice nod.

The movie is a beautiful girl with perfect make-up, but no personality.
 
Well I thought it over again for a few more minutes and this movie is an epic fail.

Its apparent no one gave a crap about the script with its major plot holes.

Dont waste your money.

This is barely a low matinee and probably more closer to a "some old BS"

Its like going out with a really pretty girl but with a IQ of about 80.
 
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Have I made this point clear enough?

Space Jockey's R US.

I hate that. HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!
 
I'm not sure about that. From what I understand the original screenplay was very much a direct ALIEN prequel and Lindenhoff moved it away from that.
That's right, when Ridley Scott eventually decided to go by Lidelof's ideas of not tying things to Alien, they should have gone with it completely as a original piece; which they implied at one point during pre-production, instead they still ended up going back to it as a prequel.

This is another reason why the movie will be compared to Alien by default and won't hold good because of the higher expectations. But as others have mentioned irrespective of the ties to Alien, the movie still suffers from a story telling point of view.
 
That's right, when Ridley Scott eventually decided to go by Lidelof's ideas of not tying things to Alien, they should have gone with it completely as a original piece; which they implied at one point during pre-production, instead they still ended up going back to it as a prequel.

This is another reason why the movie will be compared to Alien by default and won't hold good because of the higher expectations. But as others have mentioned irrespective of the ties to Alien, the movie still suffers from a story telling point of view.

It does, but when removed from the ALIEN comparison for a viewer, how does it compare to modern sic-fi releases? I would suggest it's VERY good relative to that benchmark and thus a potential commercial winner.
 
Saw it this morning with a few fellow board members here in LA. We all agreed the one this movie really needed:

BOOBIES
 
All fine and all, but doesn't explain why the space jockeys visitied earth through the millenniums showing us star maps as an invitation if they wanted to destroy us from the beginning.



Thought about this a lot and came to an answer while sleeping last night.

Is it possible that there are two different factions of engineers.


One that helped create and guide us while another that abhors them and therefore us.


That might be possible. Also the moon might not always have been a weapons depot.

Over the thousands of years the more peace loving engineers may have been wiped out and the ones we see are the militant ones.

I remember seeing the original spaceship at the beginning of the story being circular in shape.
 
One other thing.

I don't care what kind of fancy medical device you have, how much you are trying to make this character as tough as Ripley, or there is an alien death spawn trapped in the same container as you are, you don't get up from Caesarian like that, put on a space suit and go on a field trip.

Totally unbelievable.
 
I do wonder - why did the Engineer decapitate David like that? David speaks to him in his tongue - what did he say? Or was this analogous to an ant learning to speak and asking us a question?
 
It does, but when removed from the ALIEN comparison for a viewer, how does it compare to modern sic-fi releases?
I liked it better than Avatar perhaps, though that's not really a worthy comparison as I don't really think very highly of Avatar. But Prometheus is still great based on its technical qualities.

I would suggest it's VERY good relative to that benchmark and thus a potential commercial winner.
I really hope so. I want studios to be forthcoming in doing more big sci-fi films.
 
I do wonder - why did the Engineer decapitate David like that? David speaks to him in his tongue - what did he say? Or was this analogous to an ant learning to speak and asking us a question?
One possible idea, is that it sensed what he was when it touched him. For a race that appears to do everything biologically, to have your creations instead create their own duplicates out of (comparatively) simple mechanical components would be a pretty big disappointment.

We also don't know what their motivation is. He seemed to figure out that the little aliens in front of him were, in fact, their own creations that they were supposed to destroy a long time ago (maybe before they got to the point of spaceflight). That would explain why he was in such a hurry to launch the ship as soon as the immediate "threat" was dealt with.

I am also wondering why those particular coordinates appeared in Earth's ancient civilizations, since they don't seem to have much significance otherwise. I think Janek had it right, that planet was merely a depot of some kind. It would be like going to visit those primitive tribes down in South America, saying "come see our majestic greatness", then giving them a map to some random small town in the middle of nowhere.
 
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