NAZGÛL
Sr Member
Yeah, lets. I also liked the dream sequence in the beginning of the film. I missed that he started to appear in it. I thought it was a shame that we never see the dream when David talk to Weyland.
Prometheus (Post-release)
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Yeah, lets. I also liked the dream sequence in the beginning of the film. I missed that he started to appear in it. I thought it was a shame that we never see the dream when David talk to Weyland.
CB2001
Master Member
But that would have ruin the surprise that Weyland wasn't dead after all and was on board for anyone interested.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Cherry picking doesn't mean much, especially when you confuse style with content, and you keep moving the goal post.
Kit Rae
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After Shaw's father says "that's what I choose to believe", the young Shaw looks to her left and David is standing there. David immediately cuts neuro-visor link, presumably because he did not want her aware that he was intruding in her dream.
I assume this is some new Weyland technology built into the ship, specifically so David could communicate with Weyland without waking him in order to conserve what little life he had left in his ailing body. What is interesting is that David had no problem spying on other people, or perhaps Weyland asked him to do this to get a better read on Shaw, the "true believer".
Presumably the early reveal is why this scene was not used, or was never filmed, but the surprise was ruined by putting the shot of Shaw walking into the room whith Weyland sitting right there in the wheelchair in the second trailer. The TED viral video also would have ruined the reveal of the younger Weyland.
Had neither of those been done, the surprise would still have been there because we would have been seeing the young Weyland, who has little resemblance to the old, and he need not have been named in those scenes. What is interesting is that this dream watching technology is interactive enough that one would actually be able to communicate with the dreamer in a subconscious state, and the dreamer know that this was not a dream. Not a very trust worthy way of taking orders, but Weyland seemed to have been a very chance taking nut at this point in his life.
Style and content can work to compliment each other. The content of ALIEN was greatly enhanced with the film's unique art style that helped it stand out amongst all the other science fiction and horror movies made up to that point. The difference between ALIEN and Prometheus is that the content wasn't nearly as well executed or well told, so the style ends up being the high point instead of both the style and content like it was in ALIEN.
"A King has his reign, and than he dies. It's inevitable."
That's relevant some how.
Paintings of a tall man pointing at the stars = creation of life on Earth AND possible immortality.
He certainly was a nut in the company of other nuts.
Noeland
Master Member
The technology in the film is one of the things I love about it. The concept of being able to view, and interact, with another persons dreams via technology is incredibly compelling. I'd have loved to see more of that in the movie.
Also from a pure prop fanatic point of view I am just in love with the film. That helmet is cool. The sets are amazing in Prometheus. The ship felt real to me.
Puhlease. You're not going to convince many that you find the topic boring. Not after accumulating this sort of wordcount on it...
You're seriously claiming to be blind to the differences in art direction? It was Ridley's request that the biomech quotient was reduced. Different art direction, from the top down.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the definition of an internet troll
Seconded, Jeyl demonstrably isn't debating in good faith. Tch.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
Tons of potential for prop replicas here. I would love to have an ampule with the containers inside. Maybe minus the KY jelley.
http://imageshack.us/f/651/georgeft.jpg/
What I really want is a scale replica of this alien wall relief sculpture. That was beautifully done.
blipper
Sr Member
The differences are superficial and arguably less imaginative, but Jeyl is correct in his assertion. Prometheus is the little girl that's snuck into her mummy's bedroom to try on her make-up and be like mummy, with predictably poor results.
Uncalled for. Jeyl is arguing a valid point and being chastised for not effusing enough over something unrelated and more 'interesting', and dare I say, something less of a hassle to arrive at a satisfactory answer.
What is interesting is that the original insult comes from a member whose post count is almost exclusively on 'Prometheus' and who's mostly concerned with pointing out where critics have failed to recognise that any problems aren't actual problems in this 'instant cinematic classic'. At this stage I've a fair idea of who is actually doing any trolling here.
Not sure if it's been posted yet but here's Adam Savage discussing Prometheus. He seems pretty taken with building one of the enviro-helmets.
Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project #6 - Prometheus - YouTube
ghostryder
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NAZGÛL
Sr Member
And the hand touching again. The same move many times through the film.
I imagine David tries to learn as much as he can about humans. He cant dream after all.
Man, there is so much biblical references in Prometheus. Theres a lot of the Tower of Babel in there also.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
Wow. Some very cool stuff there. The more of this art I see online, the more the Art of Promethues book seems incredibly lacking.
Noeland
Master Member
I really had no idea that Ben Procter had done so much work on certain films over the last few years. Transformers/Avatar/Prometheus. There is a design "through line" in his work that I can see.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
God NO! :confused
CB2001
Master Member
The technology in the film is one of the things I love about it. The concept of being able to view, and interact, with another persons dreams via technology is incredibly compelling. I'd have loved to see more of that in the movie.
Also from a pure prop fanatic point of view I am just in love with the film. That helmet is cool. The sets are amazing in Prometheus. The ship felt real to me.
As crazy as it sounds, I think this technology may have been an easter egg/reference to the other work of Dan O'Bannon. When I saw it, especially with the scene later where he "talks" with Weyland in stasis reminded me of the scene from Dark Star where Doolittle talks Commander Powell. I wouldn't be surprised if that scene inspired the technology, especially since it was the experience on the set of Dark Star (which was co-written by O'Bannon, who also played Pinback) and his dissatisfaction with the alien in the short that lead him to create the more terrifying xenomorph when he written the story for Alien.
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