lol you think the EFX Tie is derived from the ICONS model?Seriously?
No, the Icons was patterned after an original casting. The eFX seems to be derived from the Nice-N V2 kit, everything match but kitparts (that why the nice n kit is bit more accurate than the eFX).
Jamie, I am not telling you you are lying. I think you honestly think it's a 5" ball because you have been told it was a 5" ball.
Even Steve admitted somewhere on this board that the ball was probably bigger than 5". Bryan also admitted they measured the armature tube at 31.75mm but that it was too late to make the change.
I built a 5" cockpit ball (exactly like the nice-n V2 and eFX) AND a 5-1/4" cockpit ball. I can compare myself the 2 cockpit balls, I think you can't claim the same ? It's obvious the parts placement on the 5" ball becomes problematic, of course you need to have build both to know that and to have compared the results with ref pics.
You said it was 3D scanned, OK, but where are the proof and the datas ?
I crossed check everything, got measurements from original screen used or raw castings TIE Fighters from different guys and got the same numbers. How the eFX can be smaller then ?
I also used a laser setup with a perfectly calibrated digital calipers and measured the diameter of the Vader's TIE, ESB TIE and of the ROTJ Interceptor. Everything was between 131 and 132mm. But like the 3D scanning this is not for me a solid proof.
Something that every Icons owner can do is to measure the diameter of the cockpit ball Icons TIE. And notice that the result is bigger than 127mm (5").
I said the 3D scanning was not a solid proof, remember the MR ATAT ? Yeah it was also 3D scanned and guess what ? The hull (wont talk about the legs haha) are undersized but most annoying... Shape and proportions are off. Yeah off ! But it was 3D scanned.
Another thing : with a correct inner cockpit (and ceiling) with all the correct parts, it could not fit the space between armature and front opening. That's something you can't verify yourself because 80% of the parts of the nice-n and eFX cockpit (not the front) are wrong. The length of the cockpit is shorter.
Im not saying that eFX did not do a lot of research and work into it. The master pattern was, I am sure, very well done. Just like the first legs of the ROTJ ATST. They were incredible but... Too small.
The difference between you and me is that I can say "OK I was wrong". It happened with my first TIE cockpit. It was nearly finished when someone pointed out it was too small... Then I get measurements from Gene and the original ANH TIE fighter that confirmed that. And I built another, accurate this time. This is too late for the eFX TIE but not too late if they are still planned to release the Interceptor. That's why I continue to support the 5-1/4" ball.
Another difference between you and me, is that when I see something wrong, I tell ASAP what's wrong. I did it here when the first pics of the eFX TIE proto have been posted, pointing out what could be improved. But you, you never said anything about the thickness of my wingstars even if you obviously read my thread since you "noticed" that. Fortunatly enough i am correct regarding the thickness of my wingstar so it's not a big deal, but if that would have not been the case, I would have been more than happy if you had told me that sooner.
Let's back into the original topic, the next eFX releases.
So yes you have a production casting or mold of the ROTJ AT-ST then what ? How are you planning the build ? 3D scanning the original casting, repair the mesh, square things and got it CNC milled or 3D printed ? Then it will not be anymore accurate than any scratchbuilt ATST ? The only way to get it accurate is made a master with this production casting, mold it and do resin pulls. If not, it will only be an interpretation of a ROTJ ATST.
And for the guy who is happy with his eFX TIE and is calling us "haters", good for you if you love him ! However we're not on Rebelscum here so please understand than most of us are not collectors but wants replicas that are as close as possible. "Close is good enough" is a no-no for us.
And to stop derailing this thread I invite you to post and reply into my TIE fighter thread.
